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07-05-2004, 06:23 AM

I'm interested in doing some practice work for different adult and non-adult websites. I've been in the search engine game for a very long time, my list of credentials is impressive enough, I've done freelance work for two of the largest SEO firms in the world, and currently hold a full time position for the largest search engine in the world as well. I'm not being nice, I just want to fine tune my methods and need to practice on a range of sites. I will charge you, but I guarantee it will be $350 or lower, depending on the size of your site.

Some of the non-adult mainstream clients I've worked for over the years include:
DeBeers
American Express
eBay
Microsoft
Hair Club for Men
Blue Nile
Diamond.com
Vegas.com

I've also written articles for both adult and non-adult news sources on the hot topic of cloaking and how to create the perfect cloaked network. Although I will no longer answer any questions on that subject, nor do I want to incorporate any of those tactics into your website.

If you're interested, my ICQ information is at the bottom, or you can email me at [email protected] -- Thanks in advance.

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07-05-2004, 07:02 AM

Thanks for the replies.. I just wanted to add something that I forgot, please include some basic information about your websites such as:
- Has your site(s) been submitted to any PFC Engines, Free Engines, Directories? If yes, please list them.
- What are is the index/main page's universal PageRank info?
- How many inbound links do you have?
- List 10-20 keywords/keyphrases you're interested in targeting.

That's pretty much it for the basic information, I'll contact you after I review your website(s).

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07-05-2004, 07:12 AM

If you're a SEO guru, why is http://www.aojon.com/ PR 0?
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07-05-2004, 07:16 AM

cloaking? ha ok. Why not go legit instead of having to cloak? Our network is all legit and going strong!
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07-05-2004, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by iwantchixx
cloaking? ha ok. Why not go legit instead of having to cloak? Our network is all legit and going strong!

n/m jumoed the gun

"Although I will no longer answer any questions on that subject, nor do I want to incorporate any of those tactics into your website."
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07-05-2004, 07:32 AM

I know something about SEO, but i don't know, why my pimpvision isn't listed in any SE,... and that's for about half a year now. Anyone can help?

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07-05-2004, 07:38 AM

350.00 usd? and you have worked with MS and ebay, your full of shit.
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07-05-2004, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by {fusion}
350.00 usd? and you have worked with MS and ebay, your full of shit.

he got fired probably

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07-05-2004, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by {fusion}
350.00 usd? and you have worked with MS and ebay, your full of shit.

And don't forget the current full-time job with Google
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07-05-2004, 07:43 AM

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I know something about SEO, but i don't know, why my pimpvision isn't listed in any SE,... and that's for about half a year now. Anyone can help?

well then ur doing it wrong .. you have no inbound links , your not submitted to search engines ,,,, theres tons of reasons

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07-05-2004, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by Groove
If you're a SEO guru, why is http://www.aojon.com/ PR 0?

I knew I would have to explain myself to someone on here about that. Here's the reason, why would I promote aojon.com? It's a strictly personal site for my friends and for other directories I do some testing and fucking around on. It's got a link to the old SEO consulting firm I ran so that I would be able to do freelance work under a corporation instead of an individual for tax purposes. Other than that, the site was purely personal. Perhaps I should have linked the email to a Gmail account instead, then you could complain about why I use Google instead of Yahoo.. jk.

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07-05-2004, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by {fusion}
350.00 usd? and you have worked with MS and ebay, your full of shit.

I just want to test new methods and tactics, I didn't say I was offering a full service. You guys that always jump onto the "your full of shit" bandwagon need to learn how to read first before you stand up and bash someone. Furthermore, on someone else's post, I never proclaimed to be a guru, in fact, I don't even consider myself an expert. If you want an expert, go talk to Danny Sullivan or Brett Tabke, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to discuss the secrets of the engines with you.

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07-05-2004, 07:51 AM

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And don't forget the current full-time job with Google

Yes, in the AdWords department. You can't do any SEO there, and the job goes from 8am-6pm everyday, so I don't have much time to create large sites of my own or take on full service clients anymore. I just want to test methods and tactics and thats it. Are you fuckers taking retarded pills today?!

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07-05-2004, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
I knew I would have to explain myself to someone on here about that. Here's the reason, why would I promote aojon.com? It's a strictly personal site for my friends and for other directories I do some testing and fucking around on. It's got a link to the old SEO consulting firm I ran so that I would be able to do freelance work under a corporation instead of an individual for tax purposes. Other than that, the site was purely personal. Perhaps I should have linked the email to a Gmail account instead, then you could complain about why I use Google instead of Yahoo.. jk.

The thing is, the best test of an SEO firm is how well their own site ranks for ultra-competative terms like "SEO", "search engine optimization", "search engine marketing", etc. Whereas in your case, we just have to take a leap of faith.

Do you have ANY evidence of your SEO skills?
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07-05-2004, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by basadmin
well then ur doing it wrong .. you have no inbound links , your not submitted to search engines ,,,, theres tons of reasons

I got couple of inbound links, i subnited it to SE's and i did the same with gamarays, so maybe i bought a banned domain or something?

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07-05-2004, 07:54 AM

you probably can spam with your cloaker but i just doubted your portfolio for the reason if you have worked with those guys you wouldn't be quoting so cheap.
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07-05-2004, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
Yes, in the AdWords department. You can't do any SEO there, and the job goes from 8am-6pm everyday, so I don't have much time to create large sites of my own or take on full service clients anymore. I just want to test methods and tactics and thats it. Are you fuckers taking retarded pills today?!

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07-05-2004, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by {fusion}
you probably can spam with your cloaker but i just doubted your portfolio for the reason if you have worked with those guys you wouldn't be quoting so cheap.

Again, learn to read before you post.

I JUST WANTTO TEST NEW METHODS AND TACTICS

I AM NOT OFFERING A FULL SEO SERVICE

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07-05-2004, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
I never proclaimed to be a guru,

No you only said:

I've been in the search engine game for a very long time, my list of credentials is impressive enough, I've done freelance work for two of the largest SEO firms in the world, and currently hold a full time position for the largest search engine in the world as well. I'm not being nice, I just want to fine tune my methods and need to practice on a range of sites. I will charge you, but I guarantee it will be $350 or lower, depending on the size of your site.

Some of the non-adult mainstream clients I've worked for over the years include:
DeBeers
American Express
eBay
Microsoft
Hair Club for Men
Blue Nile
Diamond.com
Vegas.com

I've also written articles for both adult and non-adult news sources on the hot topic of cloaking and how to create the perfect cloaked network. Although I will no longer answer any questions on that subject, nor do I want to incorporate any of those tactics into your website.
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07-05-2004, 08:01 AM

'let me SEO your sites' is the title, sorry i got confused. good luck.
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07-05-2004, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
I don't even consider myself an expert.

So why would anyone pay you to SEO their site?

And precisely what were you doing for:

DeBeers
American Express
eBay
Microsoft
Hair Club for Men
Blue Nile
Diamond.com
Vegas.com

????
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07-05-2004, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by Groove
No you only said:

Yes, I listed some of the companies I did work for under the SEO firms, so what? I listed them so that people would know that I'm not just listing some service out there to bait and switch. Again, all I want to do is just test out some methods and tactics and I think it's worth a lot more, but I don't believe in raping people in price when I won't be adding any extras other than just NEW METHODS AND TACTICS..

Goddamn this has to be one of the most frustrating posts I've ever done. Why can't you just be normal!?

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07-05-2004, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by Groove
So why would anyone pay you to SEO their site?

And precisely what were you doing for:

DeBeers
American Express
eBay
Microsoft
Hair Club for Men
Blue Nile
Diamond.com
Vegas.com

????

Keyword Analysis
Natural/Organic Website Optimization
PFC/PFI Submissions
PPC Campaigns
Search Marketing Campaigns

Notice Groove that I haven't bullshitted anything you've asked, nor have I shy'ed away from any of your inquiries, so with that said, are you done yet?

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07-05-2004, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
Yes, I listed some of the companies I did work for under the SEO firms, so what? I listed them so that people would know that I'm not just listing some service out there to bait and switch. Again, all I want to do is just test out some methods and tactics and I think it's worth a lot more, but I don't believe in raping people in price when I won't be adding any extras other than just NEW METHODS AND TACTICS..

Goddamn this has to be one of the most frustrating posts I've ever done. Why can't you just be normal!?

Dude, read your initial post, then compare it to your confession that:

I never proclaimed to be a guru, in fact, I don't even consider myself an expert.

There seems to be a bit of a reality gap

Maybe you should've tried a softer sell?
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07-05-2004, 08:20 AM

NiteChatDotTV if you need someone to test new methods and tactics i'll let you work on my pimpvision site for free. You don't need to be scared of fucking something up, and it would be a good training i suppose.

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07-05-2004, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
nor have I shy'ed away from any of your inquiries,

Actually you didn't answer the most important question, ie:

Originally posted by Groove
Do you have ANY evidence of your SEO skills?
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07-05-2004, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
so with that said, are you done yet?

Yep, done for now....

I'm going to bed (2.30am here).

Sorry if I've given you a hard time

It's just that your initial offer seemed a tad suspect.

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07-05-2004, 08:27 AM

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07-05-2004, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by Groove
There seems to be a bit of a reality gap

Maybe you should've tried a softer sell?

Maybe you're right, maybe I shouldn't have packed so much information in there, just didn't want to have to type it over and over when people asked "well what have you done before", ya know?

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07-05-2004, 08:44 AM

in everypost you said 'test new methods and tactics' - if they're new there is a chance of screwing up, right? and you wanna charge for that?
and i'm still not sure what you're talking about when saying new methods and tactics

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07-05-2004, 09:17 AM

have a conversation with this guy, you'll soon realize he knows what he's talking about it..

i spoke to him a month or two ago when he told me he was interviewing at Google.

why hes charging 350.. its a considerable discount, imagine if a real SEO charged you 350, it'd be garbage..

here you get a real SEO, who works at the biggest SE and has been in the adult game for a while, to test new tactics out on your site, im sure he'll guarantee some improvement, he could probably look over your site and see basic stuff that needs to be changed to improve your rankings, etc.

in other words, if you've never done any SEO work on your site, I'd hit this guy up and see what he has to offer in more detail.
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07-05-2004, 09:20 AM

why do you need to work for google, if you're good at SEO?
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07-05-2004, 09:23 AM

i dont know how good NiteChatDotTV is with SEs, but I remember him as good mailer.
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07-05-2004, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by holograph
in everypost you said 'test new methods and tactics' - if they're new there is a chance of screwing up, right? and you wanna charge for that?
and i'm still not sure what you're talking about when saying new methods and tactics

I'm not using any "questionable tactics". I just want to try different methods of optimization out on a broad number of varied topic sites, that's all. If I owned that many sites myself, I would use those. I'm charging because I think my time is worth something more than $0. You can look at it in a negative light if you like, I don't mind, just don't message me asking questions if you aren't serious. I think I've defended myself enough here for one day.

Some of you guys act as if I'm trying to sell anthrax and fuck everyone over.

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07-05-2004, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by roly
why do you need to work for google, if you're good at SEO?

A few reasons, but the most important is if you have Google on your resume and you are persuing a career in Search Marketing, then it looks just as good if you had a major law firm if you were persuing a career in law. I'm a fairly young guy, and the more well rounded experience I have in this sector, the better I become at it, and the higher I will climb up the SEM corporate ladder.

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07-05-2004, 09:42 AM

Hey since you work in the adwords dept, think you can make the suggestion to implement a search feature to only list the modified, max cpc listings, not the broad max cpc. It is annoying to have to go through all my ad groups one by one to pick out the max cpc's i have edited before, weeding through all the automatic ones.

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07-05-2004, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by serious
Hey since you work in the adwords dept, think you can make the suggestion to implement a search feature to only list the modified, max cpc listings, not the broad max cpc. It is annoying to have to go through all my ad groups one by one to pick out the max cpc's i have edited before, weeding through all the automatic ones.

Unfortunately I have absolutely zero say in what can be expected or changed, but from what I understand from speaking to some people in that area, they have gotten a lot of feedback in regards to that particular inquiry amongst many things. But sure, I'll put in a request tomorrow for you.

Also, in regards to AdWords, expect A LOT of new features to come out in Fall 2004.

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07-05-2004, 09:47 AM

Not that I'm doubting you or anything but..

Doesn't a company like Google make you sign some sort of agreement not to engage in SEO related activities outside of the company? Like a non-compete agreement. It just seems like a conflict of interest for a person working for a Search Engine to do Search Engine Optimization work.

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07-05-2004, 09:48 AM

Good luck with your new SEO methods.
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07-05-2004, 10:24 AM

hmmm seo with no keywords ???

gain #1 in a week for st "gfy"

then we will talk

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07-05-2004, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
Unfortunately I have absolutely zero say in what can be expected or changed, but from what I understand from speaking to some people in that area, they have gotten a lot of feedback in regards to that particular inquiry amongst many things. But sure, I'll put in a request tomorrow for you.

Also, in regards to AdWords, expect A LOT of new features to come out in Fall 2004.

Hmm speaking of adwords.. Perhaps you can shed some light on adwords software that auto-clicks people's ads to increase rates ??

Perhaps you can also let us in on why you let users suck back your money while others are paying top dollar.

Is adwords not aware people are masking the adwords ads they run on their own sites , thus decreasing click thu rates and increasing costs

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07-05-2004, 11:31 AM

hit me up if you want SEO done with proven results - I charge more than $350 tho ;)

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07-05-2004, 12:25 PM

For what its worth,i know of NiteChatDotTV and I know that WiredGuy is friends with him.
I also know that $350 is very cheap.I wouldn't work for less than $200 hr on seo consulting.
If you know your stuff,then you probably don't need him but there are alot of webmasters who know little of seo and this could be an oppurtunity to learn.
Hell,even I am thinking of it just in case I pick up something I didn't know, but i am scared he might trace my whole nest.

And if you don't know my seo qualifications then GFY.
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07-05-2004, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by jojojo
hit me up if you want SEO done with proven results - I charge more than $350 tho ;)

Nice thread hijack

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07-06-2004, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by swami
For what its worth,i know of NiteChatDotTV and I know that WiredGuy is friends with him.
I also know that $350 is very cheap.I wouldn't work for less than $200 hr on seo consulting.
If you know your stuff,then you probably don't need him but there are alot of webmasters who know little of seo and this could be an oppurtunity to learn.
Hell,even I am thinking of it just in case I pick up something I didn't know, but i am scared he might trace my whole nest.

And if you don't know my seo qualifications then GFY.

He pretty much summed it up. It would be a much bigger challenge for me to do sites that haven't been properly optimized, rather than sites that have been. I just want to test out a wide variety of new organic seo methods that I've picked up lately, and ones that I've thought about for a while. Some may work some may not, but overall I will get the practice I crave, and you will get a site that is better optimized than it already may be.

If you want more than what I'm offering I can recommend loads of SEO firms that range from small business low budget firms to high powered six figure ones.

I'll be home all week from work so I've got lots of time on my hands for this. If you're interested email or ICQ me. If you're not interested, please keep your negative comments to yourself. Thanks again.

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07-06-2004, 06:33 AM

Originally posted by beergood
Not that I'm doubting you or anything but..

Doesn't a company like Google make you sign some sort of agreement not to engage in SEO related activities outside of the company? Like a non-compete agreement. It just seems like a conflict of interest for a person working for a Search Engine to do Search Engine Optimization work.

I work in the NYC offices, it's all based around AdWords & AdSense in the Advertising and Sales dept's. The actual Google stuff you're referring to is based out in California. We have zero access to it.

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07-06-2004, 08:21 AM

Just a note..

I've been getting a lot of requests for both free site (avs), and TGP sites, and they are 100% okay. I don't really care what kind of content you have on there, picture/video wise, it's your web coding and linking that I'm more interested in. I'd also like to point out that both of these types of sites are not hopeless in gaining some good search engine footing, just because they've got loads of outgoing links on them doesn't mean the engines or directories flag them for link lists or gray area sites. Also, TGP and AVS sites are more of a challenge as well, but fine nonetheless. Thanks for the replies.

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07-06-2004, 08:44 AM

I believe him when he says that he used to work for Ebay. He was the janitor there. He also probably worked for the FBI.

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07-06-2004, 08:45 AM

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07-06-2004, 09:17 AM

A guy with a domain name as his nickname...

not to mention its a .tv

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