Bullshit... a bad designer can't build a site/page which looks good in all browsers.. lazy asses.

Because not all webmasters are professionals at what they do.

Why bother?

If someone only want IE users ... just go somewhere else :2 cents:

word.

I hate to interrupt here, but um, if I have credit card holding surfers who are 95% IE because it comes loaded on their computers, and I have geekys and techys and freeloaders that aren't, there's really no choice. If I were a site owner these days I'd be designing for the majority of SURFERS, not resellers, to spend their money with me.

I guess things like Flash and wmv files are definitely out with this crowd.

can you reword that so it makes fucking sense? I dont want IE users, when did I say I wanted IE users for anything?

You seem to forget,. it's us webmaster who send you your credit card holding surfers. if we can't naviagte your sites with OUR TOOLS then why should we even bother then?

So people who don't use IE are geeks, techs and freeloaders? Nice way to pigeon hole us. What about the other 17 percent of surfers who have credit cards (83 percent still use IE)? are their credit cards not good enough? The fundamental rule of building is, make it easy for EVERYONE to read and see. If you can't do that or are too lazy to do so, then you really should shy away from webmaster jobs.

Talk to any mainstream site builders and they will agree that pages should be multi browser compatible or as much as possible. What makes adult any different? Is there a different set of rules and standards just becasue we pedle adult materials? What ever happened to proffesionalism and pride in the work we do each day?

I could care less if my pages only get seen by IE users regardless (if that were the case). I build it RIGHT. I don't run around with half assed work done just because the majority won't notice. Talk about cutting corners in a BUSINESS.

n/m, i got it now. Sometimes it takes time to sink things in and read what people mean behind their quick posts :)

And what if suddenly the ratios change to be 50/50? 50% of your traffic will be unable to browse your site... Instead of putting in a tiny little bit of effort to be standards compliant when developing the site you need to go through each and every one of your websites and make them standards compliant.

If you want to gamble that way then that's your stupid decision to make and the clever people in the industry will walk all over you if it happens.

There are signs that Firefox is gaining significant popularity, it'll always first start with the geeks, then it'll filter down to the advanced users... once it gets to there then the everyday user will be right behind.

How can you say it's HTML if it doesn't comply to the HTML standard?

If it's not standards compliant then it's not HTML. No Microsoft does not control what is and what isn't HTML.

IE will be king for many many years to come, as long as it comes packaged with windows. Please remember the overwhelming majority of surfers are clueless and will NEVER EVER change browsers. On that note I love my IE. Just so used to it and I see alot of fucked up sites and shit with those other browsers. IE for me for awhile I guess:glugglug

Most surfers arent even aware that there ARE other browsers :1orglaugh
and the ones that are, are usually installing those "browsers" which are just souped up versions of IE.
Ypou make a good point about FLash too KK
I've notices a number of browsers are disabling flash because surfers want "faster loading pages"
I don't design in flash now for that reason.

I do what CD does - builes sites in Text Pad
there was no such thing as a wysiwyg when I first hit the net

dont use Opera, it's not w3 compatible

and i thought your alias was dumb.

ANY browser can view standardized website. that is the whole point to building a page that is "W3C" compliant, you are assured that all surfers view it in a similar way.

Cool. But these newer guys... some of them obviously need to check things out. Honestly I just build my stuff now and that's that..... my post was more for these other guys.


I guess that makes us both gooooood. :thumbsup

This is a 2 sided coin, IE interprets non w3c compliant HTML very well, so you can see a page even if the webmaster has not written it to exact specs, Mozilla, Opera and other browsers do this too, but not to the same extent.

Because of IEs very good interpretation, webmasters have gotten lazy with their code, they dont have to write perfect HTML and it still works fine.

There is only one way to get rid of this problem, and that if IE, Mozilla, Opera etc all did away with their interprative radings and only used w3c specs. This would mean everyone would have to write HTML properly.

The obvious problem is that 99.9999% of pages on the net wouldnt work any more. I dont know of a single page of any decent size thats 100% w3c compliant, do you?

Hell, GFY isnt even w3c compliant.

The best you can do is write your own pages in w3c terms so everyone can view it.

lol. Good thread. I am entertained. Thank you all!

there is this fairly large search engine... i think the url is http://www.google.com not sure if you have heard of it... but it is 100% "w3c compliant". maybe you should look into it.

im sorry for your ignorance, google's code is not 100% w3c compliant

in fact, here is a list of 40 of the errors just on the main page, i can actually see more myself

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...www.google.com

You complaining about a sponsor that has a site optimized only for IE .. and you have to change browser so you can visit that site.

Wel if that sponsor just want IE users .. why bother going there if you don't use IE ... there are more sponsers out there ...

And if you realy want to visit that site anyway .. and find it worth to change browser for that ... why complain ?

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... I dont know if I totally misread the initial post but I got it as iwantchixx complained about the Affiliateprograms adminareas not beeing compatible with firefox etc (like silvercashs admin requires IE for example) and Not the pornsites thoose affiliateprograms have available (even if it wouldn't hurt for them to work good for the 10-15% of non IE users as well).

From his post: "... just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all.."