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TweetyBird 07-02-2004 12:58 PM

I also see your ID :glugglug

TheSwed 07-02-2004 01:00 PM

works fine here...geo redirect? :Graucho

Vitasoy 07-02-2004 01:04 PM

All is well over here.

TheSwed 07-02-2004 01:07 PM

You can read about the problem here
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=319946
and the answer from ND
"Problem #1 allsitesaccess links are being redirected to learnaboutyourself.com

- typo in DNS led to improper re-direct for a short period of time. if you think your account was effected, please send email to [email protected] and we will review it.

Problem #2 tgp galleries are being redirected from

http://gallys.nastydollars.com/mi/16/?id=yourrefcode
to
http://www.mikeinbrazil.com/main.htm?id=feligo1

An improper re-direct code was uploaded. This has also been fixed.

any questions or comments email [email protected]"

:2 cents:

The Other Steve 07-02-2004 01:11 PM

This is a problem hitting mainstream affiliates too. There has been a lot of talk on one of the major boards about it after one scammer actually won an award for the most sales.

It needs clear and obvious action on the part of the sponsors otherwise they are going to start losing affiliates.

Diligent 07-02-2004 01:14 PM

Hmm.. :ticking

I'd like all & any of these assholes taken to cell # 105 in Bubba's prison please..

Question for all having noticed this:
Does the spyware affect links for you even if you filter your traffic to your
own place before sending it to sponsors?

Diligent 07-02-2004 02:21 PM

Bump - to help people stay aware of an important issue...

It's likely lots of surfers are stuffing scammers' wallets instead of ours,
I've seen how usual it is with spy-/malware-infections among
regular computer-users... and those account for the majority of our signups :2 cents:

PMdave 07-02-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheWildcard
Is it ND's fault or a hacker?
this is the fault of those webmasters that think that they get rich with $0.25/install programs.:2 cents:

Rick Latona 07-02-2004 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corleone
i see your id :)

thanks for the gay link... could't you just link cumfiesta or mikeinbrazil? :D

:1orglaugh

pornstar 07-02-2004 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSwed
You can read about the problem here
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=319946
and the answer from ND
"Problem #1 allsitesaccess links are being redirected to learnaboutyourself.com

- typo in DNS led to improper re-direct for a short period of time. if you think your account was effected, please send email to [email protected] and we will review it.

Problem #2 tgp galleries are being redirected from

http://gallys.nastydollars.com/mi/16/?id=yourrefcode
to
http://www.mikeinbrazil.com/main.htm?id=feligo1

An improper re-direct code was uploaded. This has also been fixed.

any questions or comments email [email protected]"

:2 cents:


This was in reply to a different problem. This is an "outside" job.. the other thread was an "inside" job.


I would like to hear from nastydollars the status of the theft accounts...

You should restart this thread with nastydollars in the title or it likely will get overlooked..

JFK 07-02-2004 02:51 PM

Fitty Scammers:BangBang:

alexg 07-02-2004 02:52 PM

I get your id, but damn, you gotta pay me some comission for seeing this gay gallery

kenny 07-02-2004 03:24 PM

This is really bad news.

the real magoo 07-02-2004 03:28 PM

[email protected]

nastyking 07-02-2004 03:38 PM

Biskoppen:

Setup a 301/302 Redirection to the Nastydollars site and check if it still rewrites the affiliate URL.

Put this in a .htaccess File:

Redirect /sponsor.html http://www.nastydollars.com/bla

Maybe a year ago a similiar scumware was bundled with Kazaa that re-wrote affiliate URLs for Mainstream Programs.
With HTTP Redirections I was able to prevent the alteration of my affiliate ID.

kenny 07-02-2004 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
Biskoppen:

Setup a 301/302 Redirection to the Nastydollars site and check if it still rewrites the affiliate URL.

Put this in a .htaccess File:

Redirect /sponsor.html http://www.nastydollars.com/bla

Maybe a year ago a similiar scumware was bundled with Kazaa that re-wrote affiliate URLs for Mainstream Programs.
With HTTP Redirections I was able to prevent the alteration of my affiliate ID.

I dont understand how this can work if it is hijacked at the browser level

kenny 07-02-2004 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adultlexicon
probaly the reason my ratio is 1:7000 with nastydollars today
fucking spyware trojan fuckups

It shouldnt effect conversion ratios. If the affilate link is hijacked then you shouldnt get the hit either.

Unless of course I am wrong

nastyking 07-02-2004 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
I dont understand how this can work if it is hijacked at the browser level
In case of that Mainstream Scumware the re-writing was done with a BHO (Browser Helper Object).

IE "alerts" the BHO every time the surfer visits a site and the scumware then alters the URL. However, IE does not alert the BHO on redirections or the mainstream scumware wasn't catching those events.

angelsofporn 07-02-2004 03:59 PM

Everyone promoting toolbars and media tickets type bullshit...please stop promoting this garbage

AgentCash 07-02-2004 04:05 PM

Well one way sponsors with multiple sites could help ward off the url rewritng is by generating unique linking codes, and run them all through one URL.

For example:
Old link
http://www.boysfirsttime.com/main.htm?id=biskoppen

Spyware just has to match "http://www.boysfirsttime.com/" in the url and rewrite with the authors affiliate code.


New link
http://www.nastydollars.com/JGG483gfeTGUE834754

Spyware author has no idea what site it goes to unless he visits each and every unique URL. Any rewriting done after the surfer visits the unique URL will be easy to catch.


What this would do is discourage the authors from doing simple affiliate code replacement since they have no idea which site to target, someone may even want to get together with a lot of sponsors and start a centralized linking repository, because the more sites you have listed the less inclined they would be to try. They could still hijack the traffic no doubt, but at least they couldn't easily target the same niche.

Matt 26z 07-02-2004 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pussy Dialers
Codelifters has a program to encrypt your links to help prevent link high jacking

http://www.codelifter.com/lc5index.html

Can anyone confirm that these encryption methods actually work? They only way to know is to test them on an infected computer.

Bisk, if you are still infected you could do this for us using ND affiliate codes.

crockett 07-02-2004 04:11 PM

guys I think you are missing the point... Sure he needs to and can probably clean his system and fix it on his end. But the surfers are getting infected and they are the ones that count because they are the one's signing up.

The program owners really need to start looking into ways to stop this. They may get the same sign up amounts now, but if affiliates stop promoting them the sales will drop because the high jacker isn't sending traffic but is stealing it.

kenny 07-02-2004 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AgentCash
Well one way sponsors with multiple sites could help ward off the url rewritng is by generating unique linking codes, and run them all through one URL.

For example:
Old link
http://www.boysfirsttime.com/main.htm?id=biskoppen

Spyware just has to match "http://www.boysfirsttime.com/" in the url and rewrite with the authors affiliate code.


New link
http://www.nastydollars.com/JGG483gfeTGUE834754

Spyware author has no idea what site it goes to unless he visits each and every unique URL. Any rewriting done after the surfer visits the unique URL will be easy to catch.


What this would do is discourage the authors from doing simple affiliate code replacement since they have no idea which site to target, someone may even want to get together with a lot of sponsors and start a centralized linking repository, because the more sites you have listed the less inclined they would be to try. They could still hijack the traffic no doubt, but at least they couldn't easily target the same niche.



They need to ban the guy with refer URLs coming from 10,000 different domains..

They should be able to tell from the URLs where the traffic is coming from and then notice the affilate IDs dont match

Or am I wrong?

tolik 07-02-2004 04:13 PM

work for me too

AgentCash 07-02-2004 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
They need to ban the guy with refer URLs coming from 10,000 different domains..

They should be able to tell from the URLs where the traffic is coming from and then notice the affilate IDs dont match

Or am I wrong?

Smart spyware rewrites the referrer. And I know a few legit guys with many domains.

Matt 26z 07-02-2004 04:15 PM

There are a few potential sponsor level fixes.

One being to check the referral URL of each and every affiliate hit. If the surfer didn't come from a domain that matches up with the affiliate ID, then deny credit. Only allow a domain to be associated with one ID.

darnit 07-02-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
guys I think you are missing the point... Sure he needs to and can probably clean his system and fix it on his end. But the surfers are getting infected and they are the ones that count because they are the one's signing up.

The program owners really need to start looking into ways to stop this. They may get the same sign up amounts now, but if affiliates stop promoting them the sales will drop because the high jacker isn't sending traffic but is stealing it.

dead on the money, the affiliate doesnt even win on this.

tolik 07-02-2004 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
They need to ban the guy with refer URLs coming from 10,000 different domains..

They should be able to tell from the URLs where the traffic is coming from and then notice the affilate IDs dont match

Or am I wrong?

alot of sponsors now able to track affiliates traffic via referers
it dont need id at linking at all for this

AgentCash 07-02-2004 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt 26z
There are a few potential sponsor level fixes.

One being to check the referral URL of each and every affiliate hit. If the surfer didn't come from a domain that matches up with the affiliate ID, then deny credit. Only allow a domain to be associated with one ID.

And what about firewalls that block the referrer, or spyware that rewrites it?

kenny 07-02-2004 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AgentCash
Smart spyware rewrites the referrer. And I know a few legit guys with many domains.
I didnt know spyware could rewrite the ref URL.

I was implying on the sponsor looking into the accounts with many domain referrers and checking to see if the affilate IDs match. Investigate it a little whois and what not.

But since spyware can rewrite the URLs that blows my idea out of the water

SmokeyTheBear 07-02-2004 04:25 PM

ok someone who has the spyware installed test this link and see if the code changes, I have cloaked the url

http://gfyhelp.blogspot.com

The Bootyologist 07-02-2004 04:30 PM

One of the major players changed the script after I stopped promoting them to my non-foreign traffic. A couple of days later I caught that they had installed a homepage hijacker along with the search bar. There was no hijacker when they were getting the good traffic. . .

Keep an eye on your shit..

TheSwed 07-02-2004 04:30 PM

http://cumfiesta.com/main.htm?id=nd5000 :Graucho

SmokeyTheBear 07-02-2004 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSwed
http://cumfiesta.com/main.htm?id=nd5000 :Graucho
do you have the spyware on your computer or not. ?? or did you even read the post ?

TheSwed 07-02-2004 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
do you have the spyware on your computer or not. ?? or did you even read the post ?
No i don't have any spyware...but that was the url your link give me

SmokeyTheBear 07-02-2004 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSwed
No i don't have any spyware...but that was the url your link give me
it was supposed to , if you didnt have the spyware installed then it shouldn't have changed anything.. thats why i specified that " SOMEONE WHO HAS THE SPYWARE INSTALLED" click the link, not you. :)


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