:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Clinton first linked the two:
http://washingtontimes.com/national/...2921-3401r.htm

Zarqawi is also very good evidence, having received harbor there both before and after the Iraq war.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/15/bush.alqaeda/

The establishment of a democracy in that area is also very good strategically for the U.S.

:)

Salon :1orglaugh

Well, you're just a typical bleeding-heart liberal . Now that was low.

You regurgitate whatever you read from the most liberal, biased excuses for journalism that exist.

Kerry is a bleeding heart pussy, just as you are ;):winkwink:

and get rid of that fucking nasty sig before I kick your ass. It takes up too much space. And your prog is shitty.

Shorten your statement. You make them far longer than the thought content is worse.

and get rid of that nasty sig

You don't trust Salon but you believe everything Rush tells you. That shows exactly where you are coming from. :1orglaugh

Kerry has personally killed communists - how many people have you killed? How many people has Bush killed personally? A pussy is someone who uses his daddies connections to get him out of fighting for his country. That's Bush, not Kerry.

Kerry has killed and almost been killed for his country - a lot more than Bush can ever claim.

Kerry is a patriot, Bush is a daddy's boy pussy who was too scared to fight in Vietnam.

Calling you an idiot is such an understatement. Michael Moore is fat slobbering anti-American piece of shit.

And you're licking his ass.

:321GFY

What, a clip from The Daily Show? A comedy program.

Read those articles, unless you are afraid to. :winkwink:

How many tours of duty did Rush Limbaugh, Bush, and Cheney combined do in Vietnam?

Someone remind me. :1orglaugh

I guess they don't care quite that much about America - not enough to personally risk their lives for America. :1orglaugh

The clips show Cheney lying. Do you disagree, or is there no such thing as objective truth?

:1orglaugh

One more time, so you can tell us if there is any such thing as objective truth:

http://www.overspun.com/video/DailyShow.cheneylies.rm

Well?

I don't believe everything Rush says. I don't even listen to Rush.

I would believe him however before I would a Liberal -- since they're so blinded by Bush-hatred they can't think straight.

the Michael Moore film shows Moore lying.

Watch it with an open mind.

and you're point is?

Is that all Kerry has to run on?

A man who received his purple heart from an accident? A mis-fire?

And then throws his medals over the fence of the White House?

no w

correction: Shorten your statements. You make them far longer than the thought content is worth.
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Zarqawi is NOT good evidence.. how many times do you have to read Zarqawi "was in northern Iraq beyond Saddam's reach" before it sinks in? Iraq was "harboring" Zarqawi eh?
I guess America was harboring the 9/11 terrorists then too.
funny thing about those terrorists.. they don't really care about knocking on the door and announcing their arrival.. they just kind of take up shop.
Do you know that right now America is harboring terrorists and has terrorist training camps?

it's kind of neat in that it's how you say it that counts eh?

Yes, the fuckers are all over. So why the trouble believing they were in Iraq?

I believe they were in Iraq. I never said I didn't.. they're all over the goddamn place but it's no justification for launching an 80 billion dollar war (not that it was the sole justification) and it's no justification in their discovery.. We could invade practically any western country and then pull out the few terrorists we find and present it as "evidence" of collaboration with that country.

I believe that just the liberation of a people from a brutal psychopathic dictator was enough.

Whether it was perfectly executed is another question, but surely a liberal must admire that intent.

And the liberation of these people was ONE of the reasons that Bush stated.

In addition, could we take the chance that Saddam might have this WMD and sell them to terrorists?

What? Saddam is too nice a guy to do something like that?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Intriguing statement???

ah yes, but our friend Diggy is too much of an Asshat to realize that *proof* of lies takes would take more than a pseudo-doc by Moore and an article from the ultra-liberal Salon magazine.

Those are his standards of proof.

But don't encourage him to post. His sig takes up about 7 inches of the screen and just really makes the board look sloppy, just as his statements give the board that illiterate look.

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yes, I know I came across some articles about the collaboration but right now the best I have is Clinton's belief state above.

I think the point is mostly that he *knowingly* gave safe harbor to terrorists.

And don't forget the offers of money to families of suicide bombers.

Maybe not Al Qaeda, but certainly terrorists.

CIVIL WAR

let's do it

let's clean this mess

:glugglug

I like this,
perhaps we should all follow your path of the domicile sheep. herded towards the bitter gates of tyranny by politicians who take your civil liberties when you're not looking. [/B][/QUOTE]
Nice:thumbsup

I vote we ban the word "sheep". Maybe then some actual debate could occur.

Oops. Sorry; forgot where I was for a moment.

I think Loryn is actually Ann Coulter.

It's too bad that so few people that have opinions or viewpoints opposing Moore's work are talented enough to communicate their views to the world with the effectiveness that he does.

Actually in some reports about Zarqawi...he operated out of Baghdad long before he established a training camp in Northern Iraq. He also was treated in a Baghdad hospital which was used by top Iraqi leaders...after he was wounded...if I recall correctly...in Afghanistan. Admittedly reports about Zarqawi are conflicting...depending on the source.

This is not true and Moore has addressed it in interviews. Sure a PG13 would have made more money (like it's not a boxoffice blockbuster as is) but his primary reason for wanting the PG13 is so the young folks who are approaching the age to vote/enlist could see it.

I don't think the monetary gain from a PG13 rating would be as high as some may think. Quite frankly most kids aren't interested in politics and will be passing the door of this film to go see Spiderman 2, a film which would lose significant income if it had been rated R.

This is still here? Glad I got my seat early.

*waits for the popcorn vendor to come back by*

Morning everybody.....Just checking back on that little thread that I started before I left my office last night and.....HOLY CRAP! LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THIS THING! ROTFLMAO!!!!


By the way Loryn, have I told you what a lovely drink of water you are lately? (very, very yummy)

I think you are backwards. Moore's existence and success is a response to a Republican controlled White House, Senate, Congress as well as total and complete talk radio domination.

The problem in my opinion is there is not enough Michael Moore's out there.

Since your back did you bother to read that your Newsweek article was discredited, by its own author as he sheepishly had to admit on MSNBC?s Scarborough country that he had misquoted the movie?

http://www.techcentralstation.com/061704C.html

Capitalist Populist

I'm sure Mr. Moore will not accept my suggestions. He's going to do whatever it takes to get more media attention and get more money for himself. In fact, he encouraging kids under 17 to lie about their age and see the movie anyway. (That way, he gets paid more.) Although he advocates income redistribution on TV, in real life he's a shrewd and selfish business man, a fat Gordon Gekko in a baseball cap.

http://www.techcentralstation.com/061704C.html

I did read that, yes. It is interesting, I'm going to look for a transacript and see what happened. Do you have a link to the transcript?

There were also a bunch of other things listed in this thread (and BTW....PEOPLE, PEOPLE PEOPLE! YOU KIDS NEED TO PLAY NICE! ANY MORE OF THIS INFIGHTING AND NAME CALLING AND I'M GOING TO TURN THIS CAR AROUND RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S NO DISNEYWORLD FOR ANYBODY!).


http://fahrenheit_fact.blogspot.com/
http://evilpundit.com/archives/004374.html#004318
http://www.moorelies.com/
Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man (new book)
http://moorelies.com/book/
http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/
http://www.mooreexposed.com/
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/
http://www.hardylaw.net/mental.html (Moore's disorder)
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3760