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sweetjimmy · 03-22-2001, 01:14 PM

gammacash put me on signup for unproductive traffic. so did amateurpie. what a waste of time putting up gamma cash banners i even got a signup last week, miraculously. Life is hard.

Slick · 03-22-2001, 01:26 PM

That sucks about your sponsors cutting you like that. The thing is that that same thing happend to me while I was using Gamma and the Iteen Topcash program. I've also been in a few other programs that did the same thing.

The thing is that the sponsor is jumping up to blame us for the poor quality traffic. Once we send them the potential customer, it's up to that site to convert it for us, it's not our fault, we give them a visitor sitting on their computer.

Hell, look at Amateur Pages, I've been hitting their 6 cent payout for as long as I can remember. I give them a 1:550 ratio or BETTER. That's with the same traffic that I used to send the others. Even with the total amount of clicks from the people that I referred to Amateur Pages falls into the 6 cent payout ratios, that has to tell ya something.

The thing is that if you look through Amateur Pages, you'll see that it's setup to give the visitor a HUGE taste of what the site is like, giving out a few samples of most of the girls on the site and it shows every girl that's in the site. It's not like most sponsors that have 3 tour pages that don't really show any samples, it's just a collage of stuff, then it goes to a signup page, that's not how to sell a membership.

I think that Lensman should start up a training class to teach people how to get people to join their pages because he definately knows what the hell he's doing.

longhair · 03-22-2001, 01:30 PM

You've got a good possibility of making some good green on the per sign program with them. I made thousands. But, they will kick you to the partnership when you don't have enough rebills on the trials.

Of course, I shouldn't complain. I won an extra $2000 this week in their drawing.

sweetjimmy · 03-22-2001, 01:45 PM

lensman knows how to think like a surfer and he's not to lazy to give people samples of whats inside like these other guys. Why would anyone in there right mind join a paysite with a three page tour that shows them absolutely nothing of what is inside? Gammacash aims for a signup ratio of 1:1500 They're so pathetic they can't even make that ratio. I'm through with all these click through programs I don't have time to build pages and tear them down again every couple of months.

I think amateurpages is the only click per surfer program that actually works. I can't make the 75 dollar minimum though. No one wants to click on the banners because everyone's already seen them on other web sites. But thats probably a good thing since it cuts down on unproductive traffic.

stangster · 03-22-2001, 01:47 PM

SO you're Phil eh?

Lucky bastard! I never win that thing.

sweetjimmy · 03-22-2001, 01:48 PM

there's no way in hell i'd go on a per sign with that company. I'd rather change everything to kara's or big penis banners. I've seen the stats on gamma. They simply do not convert. In the end your just selling yourself short, sort of like light mayonaisse.

sweetjimmy · 03-22-2001, 01:50 PM

where's your web page longhair? do you have like a crowning jewel you can show us or just http://lechery.net ?

Lord Assmore · 03-22-2001, 06:20 PM

I have to agree with Slick and sweetJimmy. I've done reasonably well with AP (almost always better than 1:800) but terrible with GammaCash (like 1:2000). I think my traffic shouldn't be that terrible, because I've stayed away from the tgp posts.

I'm about to try out some new partnerhsip programs. I've heard that FlashCash's sites convert very well... Any other ideas on well-converting sponsors?

[This message has been edited by Lord Assmore (edited 03-22-2001).]

longhair · 03-23-2001, 10:46 AM

I actually did really well on the per sign with them, but that was about a year ago. I sent in a bunch of trials in the last month, but only a couple rebilled. That's on their latina site mostly.

The only crown jewels I have are in my pants.

I have a ton of free sites, galleries, and avs sites. In the area of 500-600 altogether if I had to guess. My hub sites is what they listed on their winners sheet. http://www.lechery.net./sexsites.htm

Lord Assmore, Flash Cash does well for me on the per sign, and I've heard it does well on the parternship. I convert about 1:180 on their sex spy site on total blind links. You might try Porn Mega Bucks too. http://www.pornmegabucks.com/ref=pmb7425

heh, I just happened to be looking at their page just now.

Fuck_it_all · 03-23-2001, 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by fuck_it_all:

where's your web page longhair? do you have like a crowning jewel you can show us or just http://lechery.net ?

Lord Assmore · 03-23-2001, 02:32 PM

Thanks for the input, longhair.
Gamma's Latina site has worked best for me too, even on non-targeted, general traffic. And I can see why Flash Cash's Sex Spy converts, coz it offers content of a more unusual kind.
I assume that's the way to go--advertising sites that offer something else than the old in-and-out.

ElvisManson · 03-23-2001, 02:34 PM

Lord Assmore,

e-mail me at [email protected] and I'll set you up!

I've got 90 pay sites to choose from, so we can tweak your traffic easily

------------------
Make Money. Period.

www.pythonvideo.com
www.dollarmachine.com

candidpublishinginc · 03-25-2001, 01:03 AM

Sweetjimmy,

Maybe you should try a blind link program.

I run a nice little program that has 9 niche sites to send your traffic to. We also pay up to 4 cents a click, and there are no conversions.

The url is http://www.candidclicks.com if you are interested.

Juge · 03-25-2001, 01:10 AM

I've had troubles with gamma cash - that was when i was small, they switched me over in 2 weeks, after i made $50 from their per-click program, and didnt even give me a chance to see if my traffic was good. $50 is only 1250 clicks for fuck's sake... how can you tell with that traffic? My AP this month was 1:2500 at the start, but I finally got a bunch of tracks at the end. its the way it works with stats. if you were to test my ap ratio for a particular day, it may be 1:infinity or 1:200, depending on the day. they just simply couldn't wait to see. so what do i think? fuck gamma cash.

iteens hasn't placed me on partnership, yet, and i've been giving them about 50 - 200 hits/day for a year. the only reason i stick with them is because of referred people, but they seem good to me.

That's my input.

------------------
Juge - webmaster of:

[email protected] - Email me for link exchanges

Aussie · 03-25-2001, 02:26 AM

Yeah Gamma FUCKED me aroud too. But they still paid before switching me to the signup.

I'm now going with dollarmachine...Hope ElvisManson has fixed up things after the swap over with python

Lord Assmore · 03-25-2001, 05:49 AM

Actually, Gamma did well for me the first two years, like 1:800 month after month. It's the last couple of months that have been shitty.

My sites get around 10 K visitors daily, so my ratios are bound to fluctuate in the short run. That's why I think it's vital to promote a couple of good pay-per-click programs in order to make at least some cash each day. Too bad there are so few of them out there these days.

[This message has been edited by Lord Assmore (edited 03-25-2001).]

phon · 03-25-2001, 06:52 AM

if you are looking for a blind link program than you should definately check out nex-cash
i've been using them for about four months now and they have always paid me on time
they also have the highest second-page clickthru rate i've ever seen.
2.5c/click default , 1000hits/day -> 3c/click , 2500 hits/day -> 3.5c/click

they also have 9 niches to send your traffic to.

thx,
phon

Slick · 03-25-2001, 07:51 AM

Yeah, that is one great thing about Gamma, if they do switch ya over, they'll still pay you for the click rate up until where they switched you over rather than going back the whole pay period, paying you only for the signups.

NexCash has been great for me also, I've been pushing them for a couple of months now and they've been excellent so far. It's nice how they let ya link up anyway that you want. They even allow MOUSEOVERS. Sure mouseover links are pretty devious, but what I do is put up little "enter" links on the very bottom of my pages, so if someone is nosey enough to mouseover it, then they should check out one of my sponsors then, he he he.

03-22-2001, 01:14 PM	#1
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	unproductive traffic gammacash put me on signup for unproductive traffic. so did amateurpie. what a waste of time putting up gamma cash banners i even got a signup last week, miraculously. Life is hard.

03-25-2001, 01:10 AM	#14
Juge Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,917	I've had troubles with gamma cash - that was when i was small, they switched me over in 2 weeks, after i made $50 from their per-click program, and didnt even give me a chance to see if my traffic was good. $50 is only 1250 clicks for fuck's sake... how can you tell with that traffic? My AP this month was 1:2500 at the start, but I finally got a bunch of tracks at the end. its the way it works with stats. if you were to test my ap ratio for a particular day, it may be 1:infinity or 1:200, depending on the day. they just simply couldn't wait to see. so what do i think? fuck gamma cash. iteens hasn't placed me on partnership, yet, and i've been giving them about 50 - 200 hits/day for a year. the only reason i stick with them is because of referred people, but they seem good to me. That's my input. ------------------ Juge - webmaster of: Juge's Bikini and Thong Page - http://www.jugesbikini.com/ Juge's Weekly Wallpaper - http://www.weeklywallpaper.com/ Daily Bikini Babe - http://www.dailybikinibabe.com/ [email protected] - Email me for link exchanges

03-22-2001, 01:26 PM	#2
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	That sucks about your sponsors cutting you like that. The thing is that that same thing happend to me while I was using Gamma and the Iteen Topcash program. I've also been in a few other programs that did the same thing. The thing is that the sponsor is jumping up to blame us for the poor quality traffic. Once we send them the potential customer, it's up to that site to convert it for us, it's not our fault, we give them a visitor sitting on their computer. Hell, look at Amateur Pages, I've been hitting their 6 cent payout for as long as I can remember. I give them a 1:550 ratio or BETTER. That's with the same traffic that I used to send the others. Even with the total amount of clicks from the people that I referred to Amateur Pages falls into the 6 cent payout ratios, that has to tell ya something. The thing is that if you look through Amateur Pages, you'll see that it's setup to give the visitor a HUGE taste of what the site is like, giving out a few samples of most of the girls on the site and it shows every girl that's in the site. It's not like most sponsors that have 3 tour pages that don't really show any samples, it's just a collage of stuff, then it goes to a signup page, that's not how to sell a membership. I think that Lensman should start up a training class to teach people how to get people to join their pages because he definately knows what the hell he's doing.

03-22-2001, 01:30 PM	#3
longhair Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 198	You've got a good possibility of making some good green on the per sign program with them. I made thousands. But, they will kick you to the partnership when you don't have enough rebills on the trials. Of course, I shouldn't complain. I won an extra $2000 this week in their drawing.

03-22-2001, 01:45 PM	#4
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	lensman knows how to think like a surfer and he's not to lazy to give people samples of whats inside like these other guys. Why would anyone in there right mind join a paysite with a three page tour that shows them absolutely nothing of what is inside? Gammacash aims for a signup ratio of 1:1500 They're so pathetic they can't even make that ratio. I'm through with all these click through programs I don't have time to build pages and tear them down again every couple of months. I think amateurpages is the only click per surfer program that actually works. I can't make the 75 dollar minimum though. No one wants to click on the banners because everyone's already seen them on other web sites. But thats probably a good thing since it cuts down on unproductive traffic.

03-22-2001, 01:47 PM	#5
stangster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,126	SO you're Phil eh? Lucky bastard! I never win that thing.

03-22-2001, 01:48 PM	#6
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	there's no way in hell i'd go on a per sign with that company. I'd rather change everything to kara's or big penis banners. I've seen the stats on gamma. They simply do not convert. In the end your just selling yourself short, sort of like light mayonaisse.

03-22-2001, 01:50 PM	#7
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	where's your web page longhair? do you have like a crowning jewel you can show us or just http://lechery.net ?

03-22-2001, 06:20 PM	#8
Lord Assmore Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The Periphery Posts: 588	I have to agree with Slick and sweetJimmy. I've done reasonably well with AP (almost always better than 1:800) but terrible with GammaCash (like 1:2000). I think my traffic shouldn't be that terrible, because I've stayed away from the tgp posts. I'm about to try out some new partnerhsip programs. I've heard that FlashCash's sites convert very well... Any other ideas on well-converting sponsors? [This message has been edited by Lord Assmore (edited 03-22-2001).]

03-23-2001, 10:46 AM	#9
longhair Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 198	I actually did really well on the per sign with them, but that was about a year ago. I sent in a bunch of trials in the last month, but only a couple rebilled. That's on their latina site mostly. The only crown jewels I have are in my pants. I have a ton of free sites, galleries, and avs sites. In the area of 500-600 altogether if I had to guess. My hub sites is what they listed on their winners sheet. http://www.lechery.net./sexsites.htm Lord Assmore, Flash Cash does well for me on the per sign, and I've heard it does well on the parternship. I convert about 1:180 on their sex spy site on total blind links. You might try Porn Mega Bucks too. http://www.pornmegabucks.com/ref=pmb7425 heh, I just happened to be looking at their page just now.

03-23-2001, 02:32 PM	#11
Lord Assmore Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The Periphery Posts: 588	Thanks for the input, longhair. Gamma's Latina site has worked best for me too, even on non-targeted, general traffic. And I can see why Flash Cash's Sex Spy converts, coz it offers content of a more unusual kind. I assume that's the way to go--advertising sites that offer something else than the old in-and-out.

03-23-2001, 02:34 PM	#12
ElvisManson Looking California Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 5,476	Lord Assmore, e-mail me at [email protected] and I'll set you up! I've got 90 pay sites to choose from, so we can tweak your traffic easily ------------------ Make Money. Period. www.pythonvideo.com www.dollarmachine.com

03-25-2001, 01:03 AM	#13
candidpublishinginc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bedford, NH 03110 Posts: 707	Sweetjimmy, Maybe you should try a blind link program. I run a nice little program that has 9 niche sites to send your traffic to. We also pay up to 4 cents a click, and there are no conversions. The url is http://www.candidclicks.com if you are interested.

03-25-2001, 02:26 AM	#15
Aussie Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 262	Yeah Gamma FUCKED me aroud too. But they still paid before switching me to the signup. I'm now going with dollarmachine...Hope ElvisManson has fixed up things after the swap over with python

03-25-2001, 05:49 AM	#16
Lord Assmore Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The Periphery Posts: 588	Actually, Gamma did well for me the first two years, like 1:800 month after month. It's the last couple of months that have been shitty. My sites get around 10 K visitors daily, so my ratios are bound to fluctuate in the short run. That's why I think it's vital to promote a couple of good pay-per-click programs in order to make at least some cash each day. Too bad there are so few of them out there these days. [This message has been edited by Lord Assmore (edited 03-25-2001).]

03-25-2001, 06:52 AM	#17
phon Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Belgium Posts: 151	if you are looking for a blind link program than you should definately check out nex-cash i've been using them for about four months now and they have always paid me on time they also have the highest second-page clickthru rate i've ever seen. 2.5c/click default , 1000hits/day -> 3c/click , 2500 hits/day -> 3.5c/click they also have 9 niches to send your traffic to. thx, phon

03-25-2001, 07:51 AM	#18
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Yeah, that is one great thing about Gamma, if they do switch ya over, they'll still pay you for the click rate up until where they switched you over rather than going back the whole pay period, paying you only for the signups. NexCash has been great for me also, I've been pushing them for a couple of months now and they've been excellent so far. It's nice how they let ya link up anyway that you want. They even allow MOUSEOVERS. Sure mouseover links are pretty devious, but what I do is put up little "enter" links on the very bottom of my pages, so if someone is nosey enough to mouseover it, then they should check out one of my sponsors then, he he he.