sextracker VERY close from getting blacklisted on The Hun's - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

Nathan · 06-30-2004, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Would an I-Frame make it faster?

Not 100% sure there, but even if, an iframe causes the same security issues as the script src="" tags do.

biskoppen · 06-30-2004, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Strife
What counter program is that anyway?

My own

Steelhead · 06-30-2004, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Patrick, I thought you'd like to know that I just clicked on the sex tracker banner from Panama and I got a persistent No Credit Card dialer.

Persistence Pays and so does Nocreditcard!

Hey Rick - How is panama?

serious · 06-30-2004, 02:23 PM

biskoppen want to send me a copy? looks very nice

pornstar2pac · 06-30-2004, 02:31 PM

Hun, don't allow them anymore.

pornstar2pac has spoken.

everyone get back to work...

grand · 06-30-2004, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by biskoppen
My counter shows exactly where each gallery gets listed - and the amount of hits each gallery gets - on each TGP.

what program is this?

Lensman · 06-30-2004, 04:18 PM

$1000 says sextracker doesn't change their ways. They may for a couple of days, but in 6 months, they'll be back to scamming. They are known for it.

The REAL question is, WILL the Hun follow up on his threat?

youb · 06-30-2004, 04:20 PM

bann them fucker!

chronic avenger · 06-30-2004, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by D-Money
Bring back Websidestory's Hitbox counter!!!!!!

I remember that...

DavieVegas · 06-30-2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by Krille
I'f you'd ever list me I'd submit galleries without sextracker counters...

ya

06-30-2004, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman

The REAL question is, WILL the Hun follow up on his threat?

Why wouldn't he?

Khun · 06-30-2004, 06:08 PM

Good pic. I dont knwo why anyone would fuck with such a good thing as having promotion going on The Hun. I would say blacklist for life.

Rick Latona · 06-30-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Steelhead
Persistence Pays and so does Nocreditcard!

Hey Rick - How is panama?

Great. I'm starting to learn where all the good restaraunts are so I'm I'm going jogging now along the sea side.

squeezeboobs · 06-30-2004, 06:51 PM

What about PayCounter?

Anyone got any dirt on them?

squeezeboobs · 06-30-2004, 09:04 PM

or Master Stats?

biskoppen · 06-30-2004, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by serious
biskoppen want to send me a copy? looks very nice

Contact me via the ICQ mentioned earlier in the thread

NickB. · 07-01-2004, 12:21 AM

Such a waste, it has not been changed by sextracker yet.

I would not recommend people to click on one of the counters from sextracker ( Just click on one link on their page and it's dialer hell ) Use the backbutton and it will start over and over again.

Surfers get trapped there!
Imagine howmany daily surfers get trapped through this....

Look at only the top10 from sextracker:
+/- 9,000,000 Uniques daily

Most of the site have the counter on top of the page:
That gives the counter:+/- 38,000,000 page views daily!

Can you imagine howmuch traffic only the top10 sends them daily?

NickB. · 07-01-2004, 02:04 AM

In contact with sextracker now

pure energy · 07-01-2004, 02:10 AM

They're about to be OWNED!!!!

The Hun · 07-01-2004, 03:36 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Why do you, Mad Thumbs and the rest put the sex tracker image on the top of your page? What could you possibly gain by this?

back in the 'early days'... advertisers, definately. I know counters (websitestory more than sextracker, 'cause they were there when the Internet started growing) helped me a lot in finding advertisers. These days? I'm not sure... I know the media checks the counters to determine who's biggest, it's an easy source to check. And we Dutch are pretty proud people, I can't say I don't like the fact that we've been the #1 site on SexTracker for years.

If a new counter will be the way to go I hope everybody will go over there. A counter is a good way to show stats, and I do believe that from a marketing point-of-view it's good to have a 3rd party counter. But this is too consumer-oriented... Isn't this a nice niche for adult.com to sneak in?

The Hun · 07-01-2004, 03:42 AM

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Originally posted by oldtimer
Whats the problem?. If you dont like Sextracker rules, go list your site somewhere else. Isnt that what you tell people to do when the grumble about your rules?

Not that simple... advertisers, which are my only source of income from The Hun's, demand a 3rd party counter. Or at least demanded... I know people know the traffic is high on my site, I feel confident enough about that, but especially new advertisers do shop for sources of traffic on these counters. And I have to grant sextracker on thing, right now they're still the biggest.

It's a bit hypocrit to ban sextracker from galleries if they would still be listed on my site. Bit it's hyporit as well to allow galleries with their blind ads on there, and not to allow any other blind ads. We have a standard decline-option for people that use the bigger sextracker counter buttons... and they make the button on the sites of the #1-#3 different from the others...

So, right now I want to ban galleries with 'em, but I want to stay listed on there 'till there's another big player that can take over... which pretty much sounds like a paradox...

Vitasoy · 07-01-2004, 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by chronic avenger
I remember that...

I remember using them too.

sid275 · 07-01-2004, 03:48 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Not that simple... advertisers, which are my only source of income from The Hun's, demand a 3rd party counter. Or at least demanded... I know people know the traffic is high on my site, I feel confident enough about that, but especially new advertisers do shop for sources of traffic on these counters. And I have to grant sextracker on thing, right now they're still the biggest.

It's a bit hypocrit to ban sextracker from galleries if they would still be listed on my site. Bit it's hyporit as well to allow galleries with their blind ads on there, and not to allow any other blind ads. We have a standard decline-option for people that use the bigger sextracker counter buttons... and they make the button on the sites of the #1-#3 different from the others...

So, right now I want to ban galleries with 'em, but I want to stay listed on there 'till there's another big player that can take over... which pretty much sounds like a paradox...

how about nedstat , they are pretty big ;-) even bigger than sextracker and they allow adult ;) they will be more than happy to count your hits

The Hun · 07-01-2004, 03:49 AM

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Originally posted by Lensman
$1000 says sextracker doesn't change their ways. They may for a couple of days, but in 6 months, they'll be back to scamming. They are known for it.

The REAL question is, WILL the Hun follow up on his threat?

known for that indeed, which I why I used your board for this for a change... wouldn't it be too hypocrit not to allow 'em on galleries, but still have it on the Yellow Pages? I think it is... what would you do taking in consideration that sextracker IS a good source for us to get advertisers...

Also... isn't this a nice thing for adult.com to start? A count I mean?

The Hun · 07-01-2004, 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by nickbaauw
Such a waste, it has not been changed by sextracker yet.

I would not recommend people to click on one of the counters from sextracker ( Just click on one link on their page and it's dialer hell ) Use the backbutton and it will start over and over again.

Surfers get trapped there!
Imagine howmany daily surfers get trapped through this....

Look at only the top10 from sextracker:
+/- 9,000,000 Uniques daily

Most of the site have the counter on top of the page:
That gives the counter:+/- 38,000,000 page views daily!

Can you imagine howmuch traffic only the top10 sends them daily?

This just means that the top ten, which live in about a 100 mile circle anyway, must get together to decide on what counter will be the new industry benchmark... That would make it easiest for everybody

The Hun · 07-01-2004, 03:58 AM

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Originally posted by sid275
how about nedstat , they are pretty big ;-) even bigger than sextracker and they allow adult ;) they will be more than happy to count your hits

They don't offer their services to commercial sites. Even if you show banners on your site they kick you off. For their basic-version that is. Happened to me as well. Also, their system of counting is very easy to cheat on. They don't count uniques, their stats are tables of numbers which don't work very well (hard to see any progression with just numbers)... all in all not the best option I think...

djhits · 07-01-2004, 04:05 AM

sexlist.com
paycounter.com

Pornopat · 07-01-2004, 04:33 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
I started using 3rd party counters 'cause advertisers pretty much demanded it. They didn't believe/trust my own stats. And though there are ways to make a counter get higher up in the carts people tend to trust those numbers better than own stats. It is very good advertising for a site like mine to be on there for as long as it did (and still does).

I think you have a waitinglist of about a year with advertisers?
Advertisers should know that a listing on The Hun is worth far more then you ask for them.
The advertisers have nothing to demand. And if they dont trust your stats there is plenty of people who do.
So dont make it hard on yourself. You have tried. You have been patient. Now ban them....

NickB. · 07-01-2004, 04:35 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
This just means that the top ten, which live in about a 100 mile circle anyway, must get together to decide on what counter will be the new industry benchmark... That would make it easiest for everybody

You are totally right about that!
And I second your question about "isn't this a nice thing for adult.com to start? A count I mean?"

Rick Latona · 07-01-2004, 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by nickbaauw
You are totally right about that!
And I second your question about "isn't this a nice thing for adult.com to start? A count I mean?"

Well, a banner management system tied into the sponsors could allow one to credit the site owners for revenue generate from counter clicks. I think I'm the only one in a position to offer that as a service. Give me some time.

Kasek · 07-01-2004, 07:28 AM

Hun, why You not delete sextracker from thehun.net ?

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http://nextpics.com

Icy · 07-01-2004, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Kasek
Hun, why You not delete sextracker from thehun.net ?

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http://nextpics.com

He answered that before, read a few posts above.

I think that mostly of tgps who use sextracker is just to get advertisers. My site is only on 160k and i added it after i passed 100k for that reason. I agree with thehun and nickbaauw, if any serious program starts a clean counter mostly of tgp owners would move to it. Adult.com has the resources for sure, mybe it could be a good bussines option for them.

Pornkings · 07-01-2004, 10:46 AM

Going to talk to the guys who started the counters to see how they are profitable if its a business worht getting into.

what happend to all those counters out there back in the day

like Sexhound, xxxtracker etc.?

oldtimer · 07-01-2004, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Not that simple... advertisers, which are my only source of income from The Hun's, demand a 3rd party counter. Or at least demanded... I know people know the traffic is high on my site, I feel confident enough about that, but especially new advertisers do shop for sources of traffic on these counters. And I have to grant sextracker on thing, right now they're still the biggest.

It's a bit hypocrit to ban sextracker from galleries if they would still be listed on my site. Bit it's hyporit as well to allow galleries with their blind ads on there, and not to allow any other blind ads. We have a standard decline-option for people that use the bigger sextracker counter buttons... and they make the button on the sites of the #1-#3 different from the others...

So, right now I want to ban galleries with 'em, but I want to stay listed on there 'till there's another big player that can take over... which pretty much sounds like a paradox...

The Hun · 07-04-2004, 04:26 AM

Ok, Sextracker is now no longer allowed on submissions to the Yellow Pages. I also blacklisted paycounter for the exact same reason. Blind ads and dialer loads, and this time immediately after clicking their counter, which is clealy designed to make visitors believe there's some sort of movie or something...

I hope there will be a good alternative counter soon

Mike-BP · 07-04-2004, 04:30 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Ok, Sextracker is now no longer allowed on submissions to the Yellow Pages. I also blacklisted paycounter for the exact same reason. Blind ads and dialer loads, and this time immediately after clicking their counter, which is clealy designed to make visitors believe there's some sort of movie or something...

I hope there will be a good alternative counter soon

"COUNTER courtesy of SexTracker" is still on thehun.com - isn't this MUCH worse than a sextracker on galleries? Now surfers think YOU are screwing them by sending them DIRECTLY from YOUR page to popup hell.

Vitasoy · 07-04-2004, 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Ok, Sextracker is now no longer allowed on submissions to the Yellow Pages. I also blacklisted paycounter for the exact same reason. Blind ads and dialer loads, and this time immediately after clicking their counter, which is clealy designed to make visitors believe there's some sort of movie or something...

I hope there will be a good alternative counter soon

paycounter does that aswell.

BVF · 07-04-2004, 04:48 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Ok, Sextracker is now no longer allowed on submissions to the Yellow Pages. I also blacklisted paycounter for the exact same reason. Blind ads and dialer loads, and this time immediately after clicking their counter, which is clealy designed to make visitors believe there's some sort of movie or something...

I hope there will be a good alternative counter soon

I don't get it....why not just DON'T click on the sextracker banner? it isn't like they're pulling a Porngraph.

I might click the sextracker banner on my page once a year if I'm bored or something. And I tell the surfers that it's a counter and there is no need to click on it.

The Hun · 07-04-2004, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by Mike-BP
"COUNTER courtesy of SexTracker" is still on thehun.com - isn't this MUCH worse than a sextracker on galleries? Now surfers think YOU are screwing them by sending them DIRECTLY from YOUR page to popup hell.

As soon as there's a good alternative I reckon 9 of the top 10 on sextracker will move there. Right now I'm still going back and forth with advertising to see what the impact will be. Like I said before, I have to grant SexTracker one thing: they're the industry leader right now with the counter, and I know it's worth something to be #1 on their list for such a long time. The fact that we're selling ads way in advance these days helps me believe that we're not depending on the counter though...

The Hun · 07-04-2004, 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by BVF
I don't get it....why not just DON'T click on the sextracker banner? it isn't like they're pulling a Porngraph.

I might click the sextracker banner on my page once a year if I'm bored or something. And I tell the surfers that it's a counter and there is no need to click on it.

Could you please check the first post on this topic and tell me that's not a porngraph desinged purely to make visitors click it:

patanga · 07-04-2004, 05:22 AM

btw what is the story about porngraph? what happened?

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patanga

Mike-BP · 07-04-2004, 05:22 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Could you please check the first post on this topic and tell me that's not a porngraph desinged purely to make visitors click it:

he doesn't mean a porn graph.....he means the porngraph.com drama from a few weeks ago. They were adding spyware to surfers' computers. He probably ment that it's not as bad as what porngraph.com did.

ModelBuffet · 07-04-2004, 05:45 AM

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Originally posted by grand
what program is this?

Yeah where can I get that prog

DaLord · 07-04-2004, 06:07 AM

Why the hell do people need a counter anyway. It seems like they care more about how many hits they get per day than how many sign up they can make.

You really shouldn't be submitting galleries to TheHun on a 30 GB hosting solution.

teomaxxx · 07-04-2004, 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Ok, Sextracker is now no longer allowed on submissions to the Yellow Pages. I also blacklisted paycounter for the exact same reason. Blind ads and dialer loads, and this time immediately after clicking their counter, which is clealy designed to make visitors believe there's some sort of movie or something...

I hope there will be a good alternative counter soon

what about sexlist.com?

jimmyf · 07-04-2004, 06:34 AM

people have a good business and greed sets in..

Sextracker

jimmyf · 07-04-2004, 06:35 AM

thehun

take a look at master stats counter

the real magoo · 07-04-2004, 06:50 AM

Sexlist is a pretty good counter

Groove · 07-04-2004, 06:57 AM

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Originally posted by DaLord
Why the hell do people need a counter anyway. It seems like they care more about how many hits they get per day than how many sign up they can make.

While I agree that many webmasters get obsessed with traffic, when it's the sales that matter. It's still important to know who is listing you and how much traffic they're sending, plus it's also useful to know something about the people who are visiting your site/gallery (eg country, browser, etc). That's why you need a counter or server-based tracking solution.

the Shemp · 07-04-2004, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by The Hun
Ok, Sextracker is now no longer allowed on submissions to the Yellow Pages. I also blacklisted paycounter for the exact same reason. Blind ads and dialer loads, and this time immediately after clicking their counter, which is clealy designed to make visitors believe there's some sort of movie or something...

I hope there will be a good alternative counter soon

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06-30-2004, 06:08 PM	#112
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06-30-2004, 04:18 PM	#107
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	$1000 says sextracker doesn't change their ways. They may for a couple of days, but in 6 months, they'll be back to scamming. They are known for it. The REAL question is, WILL the Hun follow up on his threat?

06-30-2004, 04:20 PM	#108
youb Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4	bann them fucker!

07-01-2004, 12:21 AM	#117
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	Such a waste, it has not been changed by sextracker yet. I would not recommend people to click on one of the counters from sextracker ( Just click on one link on their page and it's dialer hell ) Use the backbutton and it will start over and over again. Surfers get trapped there! Imagine howmany daily surfers get trapped through this.... Look at only the top10 from sextracker: +/- 9,000,000 Uniques daily Most of the site have the counter on top of the page: That gives the counter:+/- 38,000,000 page views daily! Can you imagine howmuch traffic only the top10 sends them daily?

07-01-2004, 02:04 AM	#118
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	In contact with sextracker now

07-01-2004, 02:10 AM	#119
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07-01-2004, 07:28 AM	#131
Kasek So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 56	Hun, why You not delete sextracker from thehun.net ? -- http://nextpics.com

07-01-2004, 10:46 AM	#133
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	Going to talk to the guys who started the counters to see how they are profitable if its a business worht getting into. what happend to all those counters out there back in the day like Sexhound, xxxtracker etc.? __________________ Pornkings.com

07-04-2004, 04:26 AM	#135
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Ok, Sextracker is now no longer allowed on submissions to the Yellow Pages. I also blacklisted paycounter for the exact same reason. Blind ads and dialer loads, and this time immediately after clicking their counter, which is clealy designed to make visitors believe there's some sort of movie or something... I hope there will be a good alternative counter soon

07-04-2004, 05:22 AM	#141
patanga Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9	btw what is the story about porngraph? what happened? -- patanga

07-04-2004, 06:07 AM	#144
DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	Why the hell do people need a counter anyway. It seems like they care more about how many hits they get per day than how many sign up they can make. You really shouldn't be submitting galleries to TheHun on a 30 GB hosting solution.

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07-04-2004, 06:35 AM	#147
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07-04-2004, 06:50 AM	#148
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