J.R.

I am quoting Ogrish:

" 6/28/2004 - There is no Matt Maupin execution video yet, but if a Matt Maupin video becomes a sad reality we will post it here "



Personally, I think its fucked up that an american owned
site that is hosted in the U.S.A. would post one of our
own fellow americans *death* online should it become
available.

I emailed them about that earlier today.

I thought it was uncool, though they also showed
other americans who have been killed etc. etc.

So.. who the fuck knows.., oh well

grannytgp

That is pretty disturbing... forever in the quest for more and more traffic, which of course = $$$

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Vitasoy

That site has some of the sickest shit ever.

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eroswebmaster

Free Speech sucks!

Down with free speech!

Yeah...fuck the constitution in the ass with a horse cock!

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bdld

doesnt surprise me a bit.

pxxx

Remind me not to ever visit that site again.

bhutocracy

I hate porn.. it's so wrong that there are movies of penises going into vaginas on the intarweb, I can't believe they get away with it. I'm going to email adult.com and tell them that I don't think porn is good and they should stop putting it online and corrupting americans.

J.R.

Ogrish is hosted with TechieHosting

If I were hosted with them, I would be cancelling tomorrow
morning due to this alone.

fris

i advertise with them, good cheap advertisement. a lot of sick surfers

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Babaganoosh

You're in the WRONG place to have that view. Do you really work in porn? Do you understand the value of free speech?

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sicone

Some people will do whatever it takes to gt a few extra hits and a few extra dollars in their pocket. And I though Ogrish was hosted by prohosters (they ran the anti joker.com campaign when they tried to take the ogrish domian name)

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CamChicks

Maybe if people understand death in gruesome detail, we will be less inclined to esculate conflicts to a lethal level. Every pro-war advocate ought to see every single death, on both sides. Tens of thousands of them. Maybe then it would be more than a sterile concept or scoreboard or a fantasy with a bright light at the end. When we all realize we're just meat in a grinder, maybe we'll take better care of eachother.

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J.R.

I am not reffering to 'free speech', I think its
fucked up to show the video if one becomes available.

I have friends in the U.S. Military and I would fuck someone's
ass up if they showed up on that site.

Thats my point, it's our military.. our freedom fighters
etc. etc. etc.

Post the text link about it, don't show the video especially
when your an american in the U.S.

Babaganoosh

That is utter horseshit. Because he is American is even more of a reason to show it. People need to see the reality of war...especially those who support Bush and support his war in Iraq.

I have numerous friends in the military. If it was one of them that was killed, I would want people to see that video...especially republican idiots who voted for Bush. Turning a blind eye to what really happens in the world doesn't make it go away.

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J.R.

So, do you think the Democrats have the answers ?

and

Do you think this is Bush's war only, or rather Bush's job
to fix the shit that Clinton pussyfooted around ?

JulianSosa

xxxdesign-net

Hey JR.. off topic.. is the no-trial tour ready?

EviLGuY

Classy move.. the things people will do for some traffic.

Babaganoosh

You don't want to get that discussion started here. We all know Georgie wanted to finish what his Daddy started. There was nothing for Clinton to deal with...nothing at all. Dubya made up reasons to attack plain and simple.

Yes, democrats have the answer. The correct answer would have been not to deal with them at all. The fight should have been in Afghanistan, NOT Iraq. Period.

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J.R.

Almost.. programmers on working on it, had 2
make a few changes in order to offer it.

Should be ready soon ... :-)

J.R.

Matter of opinion mostly. oh well.. life goes
and and Kerry will likely loose

I actually vote for the best man for the job
and not who they represent.

<grin>

Babaganoosh

It scares me to think of how many people like you there are in the US. Really scary. You're voting for Bush, aren't you?

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J.R.

I am not sure, I vote for the best guy.. though I think
there could have been better choice then Kerry.

Oh, my favorite Clinton fuck up.

Let's allow all the mexicans to be come citizens if
they apply before a timed deadline.

Yeah, us Californians don't already have enough
problems with them wasting our WELLFARE SYSTEM
and EXHAUSTING our Medical Systems to no end.

But, I love Mexican food...

JoeB

I am not one to get into political conversations too often but turning a blind eye is exactly what the democratic party does when it comes to war concerning our allies or against so called terrorism. You think this stuff hasn't been going on for years? Listen I am not Repub., Demo, pro war, pro-Bush, or even pro-Kerry but in time of war I feel our country is much more safe with a President who has the balls to say If you want a fucking fight, let's fucking fight! If you saw a one or even a couple of weaker people being pushed down, beaten and even killed just because their peers saw them as insignificant or for not doing what they were told, would you just walk on by? I would hope not! So why should the US do that, just walk on by with our heads down? We can't and we aren't! So as long as Our President (no matter who it is)says "lets fucking fight", you better believe there is a reason and alot more than you, I, or any other everyday civilian has any idea of! Oh well just my

J.R.

Amen JoeB.. well fucking said my man!

twistyneck

It's not a question of free speech, fucktard. It is a question of common decency.

Triple 6

i love ogrish


"can u handle life?"


so what they are posting those videos... its LIFE, get over ot... no matter how fucked up it is, who it is, where its from, that site doesnt hold anything back... and i hope it never does

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J.R.

Agreed, the exact point I was trying to make.

It is not about 'free speech', it more about standing
up for your fellow american, a U.S. SOLDIER!!!!!!!

Babaganoosh

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If you're trying to imply that Saddam was an evil man who tortured his people and ruled with an iron fist, I agree. Should we have gotten him out of power? Absolutely. When I say "we", I do not mean the US and Great Britain. I mean a true coalition. If the UN decided he needed to go, then fine.

We (the American people) were lied to. We were led to believe we were in immediate danger from Iraq. That wasn't the case. Had we made a case for going to war over crimes against humanity we might have gotten somewhere. Now the one that looks like a war criminal is Bush.

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Babaganoosh

That's right. Close your eyes and prented it didn't really happen. That'll make it all better. Sometimes things are unpleasant. Deal with it. Don't want to watch it? By all means...don't. It's not being forced on you.

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JoeB

Agreed, I beleive Bush Makes some very ignorrant comments and generally can make himself look like an ass! But again we need to understand one thing as the American people, (wheter or not you agree) Bush was voted as our President and has I guarantee much more priveleged information which may have led him to beleive our peole were in danger. Do I know ? Do you Know? No neither of us really will ever know more than what the government is willing to tell us. But at the same time not to get too far off of this threads subject I agree, the photos are newsworthy! If you do not want to see them, you lknow what type of sited post 'em! Just simply do not go and lok at 'em!
Thats it I am done! i hate political and religious conversation. I am going to watch or sell some Porn!
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Joe

Babaganoosh

Oh shit. This could get ugly. I have a girlfriend who needs some attention so I am definitely not going to get started on this statement.

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JoeB

(wheter or not you agree) Bush was voted as our President

This was the actual quote, and hey I didn't vote for him either. but he is still the Prez currently. And again i am done with this conversation! Politics...no one is ever right, i think it is just a reason for a bunch of hard headed individuals to let off some steam!
Have a good night A & H!
Joe

CamChicks

Bush does not believe in evolution.
Clearly facts mean nothing to him.

It doesn't matter what the evidence says, Bush will believe what Bush wants to believe, as a matter of faith, and that is a fucking dangerous trait.

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Manowar

Exactly. although it may be wrong, its his right - and if you dont like it, dont look.

volante

Earlier today, KTLA5 News showed a video of a drag racing accident in which one of the drivers was killed. How do you feel about that?

PenisFace

But it's just fine if you show an iraqi getting shot or blown up right? You sicken me. You think that just because you're American, that you deserve better than everyone else?

Madd

fucking morons. they bitch about usa prison guards putting girls underwear on the iraqi prisoners heads, but they behead americans who are trying to make there country better. stupid fucking iraqis

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PenisFace

HAHAHA.. "make their country better".. Shit I haven't laughed like that for a good long time.

Remember why you first went there? It had nothing to do with the Iraqi people. It was all about "protecting America from Iraq's WMDs".

Platinumpimp

Yea but this guy Madd is a hater first class.

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Centurion

Amazing,

You just quoted every bar room bully when they're drunk.
"Bring em on..I'll fight anyone, anytime!" Yeah, fucking manly isn't it to say "We'll fight anyone because we've got balls!"



Um..Taking it from the top, there are times when NO ONE needs to fight because THERE'S NO REASON FOR IT!

Centurion

Could you stop waving the flag for a minute and SUCCINCTLY tell us why having a video of the death of the soldier is NOT patriotic?

People DIE IN WARS! We GLORIFY their deaths because they died "fighting for freedom". Should we put the hands over everyone's eyes to prevent them from seeing something because it MIGHT make them UNCOMFORTABLE? THAT is what war & life is all about.

Centurion

To those that back the war in Iraq
To those that believe we are going after terrorists that attacked us on 911
To those that believe watching an American solider in war being killed as ghoulish


WHY THE FUCK were we so damn glued to the tv watching the people jumping out of the burning buildings on 911 and then watch them collapse killing those still alive in them. Wasn't that a MILLION more times horrific than watching ONE soldier at WAR die?

Yet I never hear anyone saying "No one should ever show those tapes of 911 again because you can see innocent American CIVILIANS dying!"

JoeB

Actually I said we should fight to protect from the bullies, i.e. Sadam killing all those innocent people and the terrorists you know chopping heads off and shit like that! So if I sound like a bar room bully so be it! I just don''t think and never will think it is all right to just stand by and watch someone or some country get the shit kicked out of em! Yes there are pros and cons to this whole war, But again we don't live in a perfect world. So if you are gonna quote me, quote the facts. Don't just pick out what you feel like rippin' on!

eiht_98

You don't have to visit that site if you don't want.

Centurion

It's funny that you tell me to "quick rippin" on you because of your post..but you REPEAT the edict of "MIGHT MAKES RIGHT" and if we see countries mistreating their people, we should go kick the shit out of them! (Does that include THIS country and it's OWN history of mistreatment of it's citizens?)

So, if we say Saddam was bad because he was mean to his people, following your logic, we should go into Syria, Egypt, fuck..almost the whole Muslim world..most of Africa, and don't forget that little midget in North Korea! China has been known to step on it's own kids (especially back in 1989 when Georgie's dad was Prez..and we did nothing), so, we've got a long list of bad asses we had better get after because they have been bullies to their own people.

You really DO sound like the bar room drunk with that logic!

More Booze

you know, you dont have to watch the video if you dont want too.

does it really matters if they put it on ogrish or not?
It will still be on Kazaa, DC.... and other websites.

foolio

but its ok for then to show non-americans getting it?

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JoeB

Alaaaallllrriiiiiiight Now lithen heeeer, Kill em all and let God sort em out! Thats Bullshit that ain't my logic. But do you really think that there is ever going to be world peace? Everything you are able to do comes from the result of a war! Do I completely agree with war? No! Do I like seeing people die? No! What about the native americans etc. etc. etc. Sure lets look back at everything that can be done differently, hindsight is 20/20 vision. I would love to be able to fix things from the past, but truth of the matter is we can't. And do you honestly beleive by just standing around and doing nothing it is gonna get better? No its not! Is fighting a war everytime someone or some country gets tortured is gonna fix everything no its not! But, if we stop now. What is it gonna benefit our country? You know what I should have never got into this conversation! ploitics and religion, I broke my own rule. Your beliefs are your beliefs. Sorry to ruffle your feathers Nancy!