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				ATT: Announcment preliminary 420 4 L member list inside..
			 
			As we have repeatedly said, this is an organization being built on the foundations of Truth, and realism, along with Honest dealing, and helpful promoting of each other. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	THIS LIST OR OUR MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMNTS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SMOKING POT: We are trying to symbolize a good atmosphere,for a working lifestyle, and create an industry organization that is grounded in the principles of strength, through unity, and oppossed to misdirection, and fraud. If you are interested in knowing more about membership, or are wanting to join our ranks, then please feel free to contact myself, or any of the members to inquire as to what you need to do. Members, I will be completeing the benfites list out to you in the next couple of weeks. I will mail the formal contact lists to you some time this week. Join our proud Members: Aimeesweet Alisa Boldy Bombuno Brandon Brizzard Calmlikeabomb Chemicaleyes Chronicavenger Corleone C U next tuesday Cypocrypt D-Money Dougeetx Dustman GiorgioXO GirlNinja Inabon JJSlim JoeB JoesHO JT420 Juicylinks JupZchris LAJ Lightning Loryn Mary34D my4adult NakedBO Newton Nickpapageorgio NikkiNevada Notjoe PeerPatrick Raf Reak SIFU smurfette TitanCeltic Tofu Tranza Vanilla ZentZ We have three other members That wish to remain anonymous as well, and our thanks go out to them for their support!  | 
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		 Why the name and logo if it has nothing to do with weed? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 You have some people in there that have no money and have never done business with people in this industry. You don't even know who they are. Organization: # 1. A structure through which individuals cooperate systematically to conduct business. 2. The administrative personnel of such a structure. Sorry man, I'm really not trying to bust your chops this time, but you gotta call it like it is. It's not an organization... and it's member base has nothing to do with truth or honesty or business. Even the bp4l guys only ever called themselves a family and were VERY selective about whom they'd consider part of that family. Your group certainly is impressive, but it's not built on the same foundation.  | 
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		 Why exactly did you start this "organization" anyway?  I don't get it.  Several of the people on that list I wouldn't trust with $5, another few have ripped others off, and another couple I have much doubt that they even have business to conduct. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Didn't your big problem with BP4L have to do something with a few shady characters? There may not be any shady characters yet, but I highly doubt yours is going to be much different. Or is this just a "hey I'm cool" list? I'm confused. Please fill me in. I'm not bashing, just confused. 
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		 damn smokey the bear fuked up again .... im not titanceltic  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 As Sly said, there's a couple people in that list I wouldn't trust enough to give $5 to. If anything, I'm just saying that Joesho should consider being more choosy... rather than just let anyone in who'll jump at the chance. It's a big enough list already, with some great names on there. It very well could be an "elite club" that people only wish of dreaming.... that is, if it didn't look like just anyone could join.  | 
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 We are forming the list, and making it public, as well as providing a seperate contact sheet for our members, we as well will have special discounts, and benifites within our membership base. Being new, or not "known" is not a negative, as you and many others will soon get an opportunity to find out. There are many that are new and work hard, that may be a great benifite to the industry, time will only tell that particular tale. However with out proper development, opportinities, and mentoring this would not be possible now would it? and the free for all would reamain the same! I intend to attempt to change that line of logic. Now as for your second allegation that members may have ripped someone off, please do tell, and be specific, as if it is the truth, then that/those particular members that you speak of, will be voted on their merrits by the membership base, not just arbutrarily done by me alone, as this is not about just me. we will certainly not tolerate any theft, or scams, so if you or anyone else that reads this has any FACTUAL information as oppossed to INUENDO we ABSOLUTLY want to know about it, and greatly appreciate you giving this information to us.  | 
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		 dustman aka Dirty D from HowIgotRich.com here with proof of my membership! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 It's starting to be a decent list of people.  I do not know all of them personally yet, but I do know many.  If in fact anyone is proven to be a scammer in any way, I'm sure they will get the boot.  Joe, keep up the good work bro 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Cool deal.  I'm going to talk with somebody today and see if the "issue" was ever resolved.  I will contact you either way. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 and don't ya see that is the beauty of this, is that anybody can join as long as they meet the requirments of : Be rael, honest, and not a cheater, while looking out for the well being of not only themselves, but each other, and the industry as a whole. if of course they do something by way of their actions that deems them not to be in this category, then the remaining members will vote on that specific charge of wrong doing, and make our assessments accordingly. We do not pre judge anyone as to their worthiness, if they are real, and are attempting to grow themselves we welcome that opportunity to facilitate that growth tobe in a positive direction. if on the other hand they are a fake, and trying to use us to get work, we will see this and deal with accordingly as well.  | 
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 Reality is definitely the best when riding the coattails of others, isn't it?  | 
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		 pathetic BP4L ripoff. You're a few years late. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Well aside from a few on the member list... I have to say this is a joke for sure. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 want to get in shape 
			
		
			
			
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 Now is the time, and this is the place....  | 
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			 want to get in shape 
			
		
			
			
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 we are interested in truth and if you have some to add, or something to say, spill it....  | 
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		 Hey Joe.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I have a tip: STFU4L Just because you smoke pot all day and now make some kiddy 4L group doesn't mean you're "for real" now. I'm out of this thread it makes me lose hope for all human kind and makes me sick.  | 
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 Let's see, first he hounds boneprone to no end about how "childish" it is to have the whole bp4l thing. So now he copies it. Then he hounds boneprone about how he lets in some poor choices for members. So now he lets in anyone and everyone. I must say, he's keeping it real alright.. and... fake. He's doing both, just one after the other. Because naturally, if he chastized boneprone for it and then does it himself... then either he's a hypocrite or both extremes are perfectly acceptable. I tell ya, it confuses me... I guess I need to smoke more pot before I can figure it out.  | 
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