SCAM ALERT!!!!!! The Chronicles Of Platinum Lantern: My Conversation with a scammer - GoFuckYourself.com

Platinum/Lantern · 06-11-2004, 12:49 PM

Hey Folks..
Just want to show you how these guys operate...
what to look out for....

I've recently discovered this ring...
They work a few different ways...

1. They impersonate a website owner
a large and professional looking TGP or Moviepost
and contact a sponsor and request a pre-paid deal
*I found out about them because they went to a sponsor claiming to be the owners of my site once*

2. They claim to be some sort of TRAFFIC BUSINESS, and generate leads and traffic and are looking for a home for their traffic
*Thats what this particular conversation was about, it gets VERY FUNNY*

**********OUR AIM CONVERSATION************

trafficmajor: hey
Guest: wassup
trafficmajor: nada
trafficmajor: whats up with you
trafficmajor: its ross remember me?
Guest: ross almeida?
trafficmajor: no
trafficmajor: ross evans
Guest: don't remember you
Guest: refresh my memory
Guest: Ross Evans....
Ross Evans..
doesn't ring a bell..
do you have a website or something?
trafficmajor: yes
Guest: ok..
what is it?
when did we talk before?
Guest: whats your website?
Guest: guess your busy or something
trafficmajor: yes i generate leads and traffic
trafficmajor: sorry busy
trafficmajor: yes
Guest: whats your website address?
trafficmajor: i run several lead generation programs and lots of different traffic programs
trafficmajor: http://www.dirtydollar.com
Guest: oh ok cool
Guest: dirty dollar..
I've heard of them before
trafficmajor: hows it handing
Guest: your the owner of dirty dollar?
trafficmajor: your on my buddy list
trafficmajor: yes
trafficmajor: so we must have spoken before at some point
Guest: right
Guest: what kind of deals you looking to make?
trafficmajor: what you buyin?
Guest: latina traffic and ebony traffic
trafficmajor: have a TON of ebony tons and tons
trafficmajor: through SEO and lookin for a home for it
Guest: what about latina?
trafficmajor: probably about 30-50 joins a day of latina and 50-60 joins of ebony
Guest: GREAT
Guest: what price are you looking for?
per join?
Guest: or per day..
or per week
Guest: how ever you want to do the deal?
trafficmajor: whats your number i will call you
Guest: what's the price first?
I've got free international long distance so I'll do you a favor and call you
Guest: to save you the trouble
Guest: what kind of price are you looking for?
trafficmajor: 30 per join
Guest: alright...
trafficmajor: call me right now i can shift it today
trafficmajor: whats your name again
Guest: you want pre-paid or just a check after the end of the pay period
Guest: Josea Escobar
trafficmajor: prepay
Guest: ok cool
Guest: so let's see
Guest: 7 days
Guest: about 20 joins per day
Guest: about 140 joins a week
trafficmajor: for latina
Guest: ok
trafficmajor: is that all your want
trafficmajor: or do you want the ebony to
Guest: just latina
Guest: thats $4200
trafficmajor: its more like an average 40 a day
Guest: well let's just work this deal out for a smaller amount right now
Guest: then after a week..
we see how things go
Guest: and re work the deal
trafficmajor: not a problem if you prepay me the 4200 and at the end of the 7 days you pay me the differnce that would be agreeable
Guest: so thats $4200
ok
Guest: who do I make the check out to?
trafficmajor: yes thats agreeable
trafficmajor: can you do wires?
Guest: For business accounting purposes I need to do a check
Guest: who do I make the check out to?
trafficmajor: can you do a paypal
trafficmajor: Ross Evans
trafficmajor: but i dont take checks
trafficmajor: i take wires, stormpay, paypal
Guest: oh...
Guest: well paypal doesn't allow payments for adult oriented transactions
trafficmajor: you just do it for consulting services
Guest: best I can is a cashiers check
trafficmajor: and you have more recourse against me with paypal than a check
trafficmajor: i dont take any checks
trafficmajor: especially international ones
Guest: well..
I'm sorry, we couldn't do business
trafficmajor: thats a shame
trafficmajor: i never heard of anyone operating only on checks
Guest: you should really look into taking international checks
Guest: I tell you what this deal is too good to pass up
whats your wire information
trafficmajor: i need to speak to you on the phone first
trafficmajor: can you call me?
Guest: The fee's for your calling Panama are going to be ENORMOUS
trafficmajor: call me
trafficmajor: or i will call you
Guest: thats why I have free international long distance so that I can call people
Guest: whats your number?
trafficmajor: 561-305-9857
Guest: how long you going to be at your office?
trafficmajor: for about 30mins more
Guest: It's approaching lunch time here
Guest: will give you a call when I get back from the cafe
trafficmajor: oh i thought you were gung ho on doing this deal
trafficmajor: ok
trafficmajor: no worries
trafficmajor: i have the office line forwarded to my cell
trafficmajor: when i leave

*********************************************
I knew I was dealing with a scammer...
So I played and baited this individual the best of my ability to get as much information as possible

Notice his initial hesitation in giving me a URL...

I ask him if he has a website..
he responds "Yes"
instead of saying Yes www.whatever.com

The yes answer simply bought him sometime to pull a URL out of his ASS

Notice how the URL he gives me is actually a sponsor..
Not even a "Traffic or SEO Website"

He says "It's Ross remember me"
as to build an initial state of trust

Notice how he doesn't want to give me his phone number...
He would much rather call me..

The reason being he plans on using his cellphone and can easily use a call block when he calls me...

I tell him that my office is in Panama, and that I have free international long distance and that I will do him a favor and call him

MAJOR HESITATION

*5 minutes later while I was typing all this up*

I get a message from the same guy or a member of his team, checking to see if they really indeed have a SCAM near successful completion.

webcreativejr: hey you there?
Guest: hola
webcreativejr: you IMed me last week
webcreativejr: who is this?
Guest: this is Josea
Guest: who is this?
webcreativejr: this is Jim
Guest: how you doing Jim
Guest: don't have a lot of time to talk?
Guest: did you want something??

*The moral of this post is..
There are people who prey on "THIS INDUSTRY"
Some people (Even affiliate program owners) have gotten FUCKED
behind these type of scam operations...

Stay on your toes folks...
One good rule of thumb is that if somebody represents themselves as working for or owning a website..

Do a domain whois and call the number listed and try to get in contact with the individual...

ASSUMPTION is the ORIGIN OF ALL FUCK UPS

CAHEK · 06-11-2004, 12:59 PM

i hate scammers

dropped9 · 06-11-2004, 01:04 PM

HAHAH This thread is wonderful.....

AMADude · 06-11-2004, 01:10 PM

This guy........ webcreativejr spams my icq all the time.

motodave · 06-11-2004, 01:33 PM

thanks for the heads up

mrsexkey · 06-11-2004, 01:47 PM

The same guy contacted me yesterdeay as well. Wanting to send joins to Sexkey. Prepay only, suposedly to buy a server to send the traffic through. Total BS. If you can send 100 joins a day, I think you can afford to buy your own servers. I told him to send a test to me for a week, then if all went well i would do a prepay. Amazing that he didn't get back to me after that

Unreal.

-Hank

doober · 06-11-2004, 02:15 PM

bump for others that missed it

Platinum/Lantern · 06-11-2004, 06:12 PM

I'll bump this one time because I feel it's important

serious · 06-11-2004, 06:43 PM

well if your going to prepay someone for hundreds of joins without even looking into them i think your asking for trouble.

Rich · 06-11-2004, 06:48 PM

Wow doesn't someone from dirtydollar.com post here?

Juicy D. Links · 06-28-2004, 10:08 AM

bump so more people see this

doornx · 06-28-2004, 10:24 AM

Who can you trust nowadays..he tried to contact Steve as an ARS employee also

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=318899

Spunky · 06-28-2004, 10:28 AM

Yep...welcome to the internet...fucking weasels

strobi · 06-28-2004, 10:31 AM

pre payed joins are always fishy.. But some people would fall for it in the haze of easy money... bazump!

woj · 06-28-2004, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi
pre payed joins are always fishy.. But some people would fall for it in the haze of easy money... bazump!

yea, no kidding... I don't see any logical reason for requiring prepayment unless you are doing something shady...

Lauren · 06-28-2004, 11:21 AM

bump!!

SykkBoy · 06-28-2004, 11:23 AM

yeah, pre-pays are dead unless you've done business with them for a long time.

justsexxx · 06-28-2004, 11:24 AM

Funny he is using dirtydollar as website...Many ppl are still waiting on their money from that sponsor

He was prolly not really up-to-date

Andre

Basic_man · 06-28-2004, 11:31 AM

thanks for sharing mate! I'll keep an eyes on that

Matiz · 06-28-2004, 11:32 AM

Thanks for the heads up.

detoxed · 06-28-2004, 11:33 AM

If someone has 50-60 joins a day then chances are you already know who they are.

06-11-2004, 12:49 PM	#1
Platinum/Lantern Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 290	SCAM ALERT!!!!!! The Chronicles Of Platinum Lantern: My Conversation with a scammer Hey Folks.. Just want to show you how these guys operate... what to look out for.... I've recently discovered this ring... They work a few different ways... 1. They impersonate a website owner a large and professional looking TGP or Moviepost and contact a sponsor and request a pre-paid deal I found out about them because they went to a sponsor claiming to be the owners of my site once 2. They claim to be some sort of TRAFFIC BUSINESS, and generate leads and traffic and are looking for a home for their traffic Thats what this particular conversation was about, it gets VERY FUNNY ********OUR AIM CONVERSATION******** trafficmajor: hey Guest: wassup trafficmajor: nada trafficmajor: whats up with you trafficmajor: its ross remember me? Guest: ross almeida? trafficmajor: no trafficmajor: ross evans Guest: don't remember you Guest: refresh my memory Guest: Ross Evans.... Ross Evans.. doesn't ring a bell.. do you have a website or something? trafficmajor: yes Guest: ok.. what is it? when did we talk before? Guest: whats your website? Guest: guess your busy or something trafficmajor: yes i generate leads and traffic trafficmajor: sorry busy trafficmajor: yes Guest: whats your website address? trafficmajor: i run several lead generation programs and lots of different traffic programs trafficmajor: http://www.dirtydollar.com Guest: oh ok cool Guest: dirty dollar.. I've heard of them before trafficmajor: hows it handing Guest: your the owner of dirty dollar? trafficmajor: your on my buddy list trafficmajor: yes trafficmajor: so we must have spoken before at some point Guest: right Guest: what kind of deals you looking to make? trafficmajor: what you buyin? Guest: latina traffic and ebony traffic trafficmajor: have a TON of ebony tons and tons trafficmajor: through SEO and lookin for a home for it Guest: what about latina? trafficmajor: probably about 30-50 joins a day of latina and 50-60 joins of ebony Guest: GREAT Guest: what price are you looking for? per join? Guest: or per day.. or per week Guest: how ever you want to do the deal? trafficmajor: whats your number i will call you Guest: what's the price first? I've got free international long distance so I'll do you a favor and call you Guest: to save you the trouble Guest: what kind of price are you looking for? trafficmajor: 30 per join Guest: alright... trafficmajor: call me right now i can shift it today trafficmajor: whats your name again Guest: you want pre-paid or just a check after the end of the pay period Guest: Josea Escobar trafficmajor: prepay Guest: ok cool Guest: so let's see Guest: 7 days Guest: about 20 joins per day Guest: about 140 joins a week trafficmajor: for latina Guest: ok trafficmajor: is that all your want trafficmajor: or do you want the ebony to Guest: just latina Guest: thats $4200 trafficmajor: its more like an average 40 a day Guest: well let's just work this deal out for a smaller amount right now Guest: then after a week.. we see how things go Guest: and re work the deal trafficmajor: not a problem if you prepay me the 4200 and at the end of the 7 days you pay me the differnce that would be agreeable Guest: so thats $4200 ok Guest: who do I make the check out to? trafficmajor: yes thats agreeable trafficmajor: can you do wires? Guest: For business accounting purposes I need to do a check Guest: who do I make the check out to? trafficmajor: can you do a paypal trafficmajor: Ross Evans trafficmajor: but i dont take checks trafficmajor: i take wires, stormpay, paypal Guest: oh... Guest: well paypal doesn't allow payments for adult oriented transactions trafficmajor: you just do it for consulting services Guest: best I can is a cashiers check trafficmajor: and you have more recourse against me with paypal than a check trafficmajor: i dont take any checks trafficmajor: especially international ones Guest: well.. I'm sorry, we couldn't do business trafficmajor: thats a shame trafficmajor: i never heard of anyone operating only on checks Guest: you should really look into taking international checks Guest: I tell you what this deal is too good to pass up whats your wire information trafficmajor: i need to speak to you on the phone first trafficmajor: can you call me? Guest: The fee's for your calling Panama are going to be ENORMOUS trafficmajor: call me trafficmajor: or i will call you Guest: thats why I have free international long distance so that I can call people Guest: whats your number? trafficmajor: 561-305-9857 Guest: how long you going to be at your office? trafficmajor: for about 30mins more Guest: It's approaching lunch time here Guest: will give you a call when I get back from the cafe trafficmajor: oh i thought you were gung ho on doing this deal trafficmajor: ok trafficmajor: no worries trafficmajor: i have the office line forwarded to my cell trafficmajor: when i leave ******************************************* I knew I was dealing with a scammer... So I played and baited this individual the best of my ability to get as much information as possible Notice his initial hesitation in giving me a URL... I ask him if he has a website.. he responds "Yes" instead of saying Yes www.whatever.com The yes answer simply bought him sometime to pull a URL out of his ASS Notice how the URL he gives me is actually a sponsor.. Not even a "Traffic or SEO Website" He says "It's Ross remember me" as to build an initial state of trust Notice how he doesn't want to give me his phone number... He would much rather call me.. The reason being he plans on using his cellphone and can easily use a call block when he calls me... I tell him that my office is in Panama, and that I have free international long distance and that I will do him a favor and call him MAJOR HESITATION 5 minutes later while I was typing all this up I get a message from the same guy or a member of his team, checking to see if they really indeed have a SCAM near successful completion. webcreativejr: hey you there? Guest: hola webcreativejr: you IMed me last week webcreativejr: who is this? Guest: this is Josea Guest: who is this? webcreativejr: this is Jim Guest: how you doing Jim Guest: don't have a lot of time to talk? Guest: did you want something?? *The moral of this post is.. There are people who prey on "THIS INDUSTRY" Some people (Even affiliate program owners) have gotten FUCKED behind these type of scam operations... Stay on your toes folks... One good rule of thumb is that if somebody represents themselves as working for or owning a website.. Do a domain whois and call the number listed and try to get in contact with the individual... ASSUMPTION is the ORIGIN OF ALL FUCK UPS __________________ www.gallerytrafficservice.com/ "When I pay for gallery spots, I want the best value, the best customer service and the best sites. Thats why I'll only use GTS from now on." Platinum Lantern

06-11-2004, 12:59 PM	#2
CAHEK C.C.C.P. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Novorossiya Posts: 7,041	i hate scammers __________________ Pharma from True-Meds. High converting shop in Europe and USA, fast payouts via BTC !!!

06-11-2004, 01:10 PM	#4
AMADude Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,875	This guy........ webcreativejr spams my icq all the time. __________________ No sig, just here to fuck around.

06-11-2004, 01:47 PM	#6
mrsexkey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NJ USA Posts: 197	The same guy contacted me yesterdeay as well. Wanting to send joins to Sexkey. Prepay only, suposedly to buy a server to send the traffic through. Total BS. If you can send 100 joins a day, I think you can afford to buy your own servers. I told him to send a test to me for a week, then if all went well i would do a prepay. Amazing that he didn't get back to me after that Unreal. -Hank __________________ The new face(s) of billing Payze.com GFY Awards - Vote for Payze !!! Last edited by mrsexkey; 06-11-2004 at 01:48 PM..

06-11-2004, 06:12 PM	#8
Platinum/Lantern Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 290	I'll bump this one time because I feel it's important __________________ www.gallerytrafficservice.com/ "When I pay for gallery spots, I want the best value, the best customer service and the best sites. Thats why I'll only use GTS from now on." Platinum Lantern

06-11-2004, 01:04 PM	#3
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	HAHAH This thread is wonderful.....

06-11-2004, 01:33 PM	#5
motodave Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 12	thanks for the heads up

06-11-2004, 02:15 PM	#7
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	bump for others that missed it

06-11-2004, 06:43 PM	#9
serious Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,594	well if your going to prepay someone for hundreds of joins without even looking into them i think your asking for trouble. __________________ new search

06-11-2004, 06:48 PM	#10
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Wow doesn't someone from dirtydollar.com post here?

06-28-2004, 10:08 AM	#11
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	bump so more people see this

06-28-2004, 10:24 AM	#12
doornx Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ICQ : 946 3375 Posts: 2,531	Who can you trust nowadays..he tried to contact Steve as an ARS employee also http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=318899 __________________ Send me a PM for design work

06-28-2004, 10:28 AM	#13
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,943	Yep...welcome to the internet...fucking weasels __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

06-28-2004, 10:31 AM	#14
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	pre payed joins are always fishy.. But some people would fall for it in the haze of easy money... bazump!

06-28-2004, 11:21 AM	#16
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06-28-2004, 11:23 AM	#17
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	yeah, pre-pays are dead unless you've done business with them for a long time. __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

06-28-2004, 11:24 AM	#18
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Funny he is using dirtydollar as website...Many ppl are still waiting on their money from that sponsor He was prolly not really up-to-date Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

06-28-2004, 11:31 AM	#19
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06-28-2004, 11:32 AM	#20
Matiz Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ICQ:342419601 Posts: 1,740	Thanks for the heads up. __________________ ...

06-28-2004, 11:33 AM	#21
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	If someone has 50-60 joins a day then chances are you already know who they are.