Negative Calories Diet

[KidCock]

Anyone have any results, tried it before?

The concept:
Eat as MUCH as you want, lose weight.

The catch:
You can only eat as much as you want from a certain list of foods (being vegetables and fruits form what I can find).

The science:
Eating only foods where the process of eating them burns more calories than the food contains, means your body has to get its calories elsewhere....so burns the stored fat in your body.

The test:
I will try this diet for 2 weeks and let you know my results. I will keep my drinking level and exercise levels the same, so as to not affect the outcome. I will stock my hosue with these foods only, however I will also eat some type of meat/protein once a day.....just cuz its yummy and I need some protein

I'll start probably on Tuesday, expect a report every few days.

[Jakke PNG]

Negative calories?
Isn't that bulimia?

[tony286]

no its like celery is 5 calories but it takes 7 calories for the body to use it. So in theory if you were on a desert island and only had celery to eat you could starve to death on a full stomach.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Negative calories?
Isn't that bulimia?

Nope because all the foods DO contain calories. There is no such thing as a food containing less than 0 calories.

However, let's say a food contains 100 calories but it takes 150 calories for your body to burn it, you are losing 50 calories.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by tony404
no its like celery is 5 calories but it takes 7 calories for the body to use it. So in theory if you were on a desert island and only had celery to eat you could starve to death on a full stomach.

Exactly....

Well I'm not very worried about that, I'll still eat meat and drink alcohol ;p

[StarkReality]

Sounds like this vegetable soup thing to me, yes, it's true, but it's a really hard diet. My girlfriend did it a year ago, after a few days you can't really stand the smell of vegetables any more and you are farting around all day...good idea to combine it with some protein, this way it becomes something like a low fat, low carb and low calories combo. Good luck !

[serious]

vegetarian?

[Jakke PNG]

Originally posted by tony404
no its like celery is 5 calories but it takes 7 calories for the body to use it. So in theory if you were on a desert island and only had celery to eat you could starve to death on a full stomach.

High in fiber? What veggies are like that?
I can't see any fruit being on the list.

Celery and cabbage will get very old very fast.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by serious
vegetarian?

Almost but not quite becauise I'll still eat meat. It's also just a test half only out of curiosity, to see what kind of results would come from it.

[doober]

post a list of the foods in this diet, or if you have a link or a copy you can paste here that would be cool.
I have never heard of this before and am curious

[tony286]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
High in fiber? What veggies are like that?
I can't see any fruit being on the list.

Celery and cabbage will get very old very fast.

No shit lol

[KidCock]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
High in fiber? What veggies are like that?
I can't see any fruit being on the list.

Celery and cabbage will get very old very fast.

There are close to 100 items listed.

Some fruits include: apples, strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, canteloupe, pineapple, oranges, lemons....

Some vegetables include: tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce, cabbage, broccoli, carrots, garlic, onions....

So with the list you can still make quite a few combinations. I"m thinking salad with grilled chicken and vinegar/garlic on it (chicken will be the meat for that day, vinegar I love and it contains 0 calories)...

Anyhow if I only purchase these foods when I do groceries for the next week, I really can't eat anything else in my house as it won't be there

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by KidCock
The science:
so burns the stored fat in your body.

you should have said "so it burns muscle, you lose weight, your metabolism slows dramatically (due to decreased muscle mass), you fuck up your heart (which is also a muscle) - then you stop and start eating as before, gaining the weight back twice as fast and still are left with less muscle and a slower metabolism"

[KidCock]

Originally posted by doober
post a list of the foods in this diet, or if you have a link or a copy you can paste here that would be cool.
I have never heard of this before and am curious

I posted a small list below.....haven't compiled a full one yet, I'm getting different ones from different health/food sites by searching Google.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
you should have said "so it burns muscle, you lose weight, your metabolism slows dramatically (due to decreased muscle mass), you fuck up your heart (which is also a muscle) - then you stop and start eating as before due to a slower metabolism as a result of decreased muscle mass, and then you gain the weight back twice as fast as your body tries to desperately compensate for the fact that you starved it and you are still are left with less muscle and a slower metabolism.... and more weight to lose than you started with"

[tical]

don't be suprised if you pile on fat quickly once you return to a 'normal' diet

[KidCock]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
you should have said "so it burns muscle, you lose weight, your metabolism slows dramatically (due to decreased muscle mass), you fuck up your heart (which is also a muscle) - then you stop and start eating as before, gaining the weight back twice as fast and still are left with less muscle and a slower metabolism"

You still have protein and fat from eating meat....and form what I read lots of fruits & vegetables SPEEDS UP

[Baal]

I knew a guy who spent an extra *3 hours* a day planning/preparing special diet meals, and he was miserable all day because he hated the food.

When I suggested that he just fast-walk around the block for *1/2 hour* a day and eat reasonable portions of "normal food" to achieve the same thing, he said that it would take too much time

[tical]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
you should have said "so it burns muscle, you lose weight, your metabolism slows dramatically (due to decreased muscle mass), you fuck up your heart (which is also a muscle) - then you stop and start eating as before, gaining the weight back twice as fast and still are left with less muscle and a slower metabolism"

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by KidCock
You still have protein and fat from eating meat....and form what I read lots of fruits & vegetables SPEEDS UP

so what?

starve yourself... and your body is going to burn muscle. usually just as much muscle as fat. it has nothing to do with how much protein you eat.

my suggestion to you is that you educate yourself instead of kill yourself.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
you should have said "so it burns muscle, you lose weight, your metabolism slows dramatically (due to decreased muscle mass), you fuck up your heart (which is also a muscle) - then you stop and start eating as before, gaining the weight back twice as fast and still are left with less muscle and a slower metabolism"

You still have protein and fat from eating meat....and form what I read lots of fruits & vegetables SPEEDS UP your metabolism.

If it shows some nice results, I will not go back to eating the same junk.....I'll balance it more (ie. still eat some junk but throw in some of those fruits & vegetables to balance it).

Now

[Sly_RJ]

When I was younger I was overweight and it was causing some health problems so my dad started us (him and me) on a vegetable soup diet. All you could really eat was this soup consisting of cabbage, carrots, and some other vegetables. The third day you could have a potato, the fifth day you could have some meat... something like that.

Anyway, it was brutal hell. I was starving every minute of the day, no matter how much soup I ate. My stomach was in knots all the time. The third day or so I couldn't take it anymore because I was in such pain, it was killing my stomach.

I don't care what anyone says, I don't believe in diets like this and seriously believe they can have adverse effects on the body. This is not good for you. The body needs it's nutrients to function properly.

Want to lose weight? Eat healthy. Exercise. Cut out unnecessary sugars.

Cheating will always come back to bite you in the ass. These diets are cheating.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally posted by KidCock
You still have protein and fat from eating meat....and form what I read lots of fruits & vegetables SPEEDS UP your metabolism.

Meat = Protein and fat, I don't think that's part of your 'negative calories diet'

[KidCock]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
so what?

starve yourself... and your body is going to burn muscle. usually just as much muscle as fat. it has nothing to do with how much protein you eat.

my suggestion to you is that you educate yourself instead of kill yourself.

At any rate it is two weeks. It definately won't reach "killing myself" in that timeframe.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by KidCock
You still have protein and fat from eating meat....and form what I read lots of fruits & vegetables SPEEDS UP your metabolism.

If it shows some nice results, I will not go back to eating the same junk.....I'll balance it more (ie. still eat some junk but throw in some of those fruits & vegetables to balance it).

Now

you WON'T speed up your metabolism by starving yourself.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Meat = Protein and fat, I don't think that's part of your 'negative calories diet'

It's not....I said above I'll still eat it because its tasty and I don't want to cut out protein and fat completely.

It will lessen the effects of the diet to a tiny degree I suspect, but nothing major as it will just lessen the loss from the other foods.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
you WON'T speed up your metabolism by starving yourself.

You're not starving yourself.....fat and protein are still there from the meat,chicken,etc...that I said I'll eat once a day.

[Doctor Dre]

Got any URL or something ??? My grandfather had a very bad healt and he went on a diet he never left for one meal. Hes 80 and he can still do pushups .

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by KidCock
You're not starving yourself.....fat and protein are still there from the meat,chicken,etc...that I said I'll eat once a day.

now you are just showing how ignorant you are about anatomy and physiology and general nutrition. intentionally trying to create a situation where you are eating "negative calories" everyday is starving yourself.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
now you are just showing how ignorant you are about anatomy and physiology and general nutrition. intentionally trying to create a situation where you are eating "negative calories" everyday is starving yourself.

I'm fairly confident alcohol contains enough calories that I will break about even...

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by KidCock
I'm fairly confident alcohol contains enough calories that I will break about even...

ok... you started by saying "negative calories" which means ... your body needs 2500 calories a day... and you are going to eat foods with negative energy values.

now you are talking about eating fats, and drinking alcohol to "break even". You are not making sense and...


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[KidCock]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
now you are just showing how ignorant you are about anatomy and physiology and general nutrition. intentionally trying to create a situation where you are eating "negative calories" everyday is starving yourself.

Ok let's put it this way:

I eat around the 2000 calories one should in a day and exercise few hours 3x a week. I got a few lbs I'd like to lose, mostly due to drinking and eating junk sometimes.

I was losing this fine by upping my exercise (that being lots of sex), until recently where I'm dating a girl who's a virgin now.

I came across this diet and figured I will try it for 2 weeks, just to see the results. If my average for the week is about half the calories my body is eating now, I should lose that extra weight....

EIther way, you've expressed your opinions, I'm trying it regardless.

I'll post my progress for everyone here, if you're interested in it then fine, if not fine as well.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Got any URL or something ??? My grandfather had a very bad healt and he went on a diet he never left for one meal. Hes 80 and he can still do pushups .

Here's a quick one:

http://www.healthrecipes.com/list_ne...orie_foods.htm

You can find tons of other sites just by searching for "negative calorie foods" in Google.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by KidCock
Ok let's put it this way:

I eat around the 2000 calories one should in a day and exercise few hours 3x a week. I got a few lbs I'd like to lose, mostly due to drinking and eating junk sometimes.

I was losing this fine by upping my exercise (that being lots of sex), until recently where I'm dating a girl who's a virgin now.

I came across this diet and figured I will try it for 2 weeks, just to see the results. If my average for the week is about half the calories my body is eating now, I should lose that extra weight....

EIther way, you've expressed your opinions, I'm trying it regardless.

I'll post my progress for everyone here, if you're interested in it then fine, if not fine as well.

of course you will lose weight if your body needs 3000 calories a day and you leave yourself with a -500 calorie a day intake.

a pound of fat is 3500 calories.... do the math. you will lose about 1 pound of body weight a day. approx 1/2 from fat. 1/2 will be lost muscle.

what will that prove? concentration camps were a good idea? Ethiopia is on to something?

you really don't sound like you have thought this through much.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
of course you will lose weight if your body needs 3000 calories a day and you leave yourself with a -500 calorie a day intake.

a pound of fat is 3500 calories.... do the math. you will lose about 1 pound of body weight a day. approx 1/2 from fat. 1/2 will be lost muscle.

what will that prove? concentration camps were a good idea? Ethiopia is on to something?

you really don't sound like you have thought this through much.

Why then do some cultures support the idea of 'fasting'? Wouldn't that be much much worse.

Fasting has been proven to cleanse the body of toxins and plenty of healthy people 'fast' maybe once or twice a year, for upto a week at a time.

This is far from being that....

[Jakke PNG]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

you really don't sound like you have thought this through much.

Well, it doesn't seem impossible. Especially if celery and other veggies do burn more calories than they're worth, I'd like proof though. Just gotta eat protein powders, and vitamines to keep healthy.

if someone shows me a reliable site/article about this shit I can think it further. Not that I'm going to try this, I love meat too much. I just wanna know more about it. All google has are feeder/spam sites to some damn e-book(s).

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by KidCock
Why then do some cultures support the idea of 'fasting'? Wouldn't that be much much worse.

Fasting has been proven to cleanse the body of toxins and plenty of healthy people 'fast' maybe once or twice a year, for upto a week at a time.

This is far from being that....

fasting is not safe beyond a week or so, no matter what anyone says... particularly when you are eating enough carbs to keep your body from burning fat.

you are not talking about fasting... you are talking about eating less than zero calories everyday.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
When I was younger I was overweight and it was causing some health problems so my dad started us (him and me) on a vegetable soup diet. All you could really eat was this soup consisting of cabbage, carrots, and some other vegetables. The third day you could have a potato, the fifth day you could have some meat... something like that.

Anyway, it was brutal hell. I was starving every minute of the day, no matter how much soup I ate. My stomach was in knots all the time. The third day or so I couldn't take it anymore because I was in such pain, it was killing my stomach.

I don't care what anyone says, I don't believe in diets like this and seriously believe they can have adverse effects on the body. This is not good for you. The body needs it's nutrients to function properly.

Want to lose weight? Eat healthy. Exercise. Cut out unnecessary sugars.

Cheating will always come back to bite you in the ass. These diets are cheating.

True.....I've never done any other diets and don't intend to try any other diets.

This one however, you don't have any 'daily plan', you don't have to count any calories, you don't have to watch portions. You just eat as much as you want as long as its from those foods.

The part I like about it is you can still eat lots of other stuff with it, and their calories will be lessened by the negative ones.

For example if you eat 2500 calories worth, and then few vegetables and fruits that give you -500, you'll end up at 2000 for the day. Without any bad diets.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally posted by KidCock

The part I like about it is you can still eat lots of other stuff with it, and their calories will be lessened by the negative ones.

I don't see this working.
If you eat 17lbs of celery, you cannot eat a familysized pizza.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
fasting is not safe beyond a week or so, no matter what anyone says... particularly when you are eating enough carbs to keep your body from burning fat.

you are not talking about fasting... you are talking about eating less than zero calories everyday.

I will not eat less than 0 calories everyday, perhaps you've misunderstood me.

I will be staying above zero by the meat foods and anything else I might consume....

Realistically, I'd say with these foods I'd aim for about 1000 calories a day.

With your concept though of burning more than you eat, how od you expect weight loss can ever be attained?

Unless I"m wrong here,

Eating more calories than you burn = weight gain

Eating same calories as you burn = stable weight

Eating less calories than you burn = weight loss

[KidCock]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
I don't see this working.
If you eat 17lbs of celery, you cannot eat a familysized pizza.

Who in their right mind can eat 17 lbs of celery a day

What I'm talking about is the fruits for breakfast or snacks throughout the day, grilled chicken salad for lunch and maybe just salad for dinner or salad with some more meat or something.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally posted by KidCock
Who in their right mind can eat 17 lbs of celery a day

That's what I mean.
If you eat a stalk of celery and have -2 calories (or whatever), that's not much 'extra' you can eat.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by KidCock
Realistically, I'd say with these foods I'd aim for about 1000 calories a day.

With your concept though of burning more than you eat, how od you expect weight loss can ever be attained?

Unless I"m wrong here,

Eating more calories than you burn = weight gain

Eating same calories as you burn = stable weight

Eating less calories than you burn = weight loss

i misunderstood what you are trying to say. ALL diets rely on a caloric deficit at the end of the day (calories consumed vs. calories expended)


but you are also not absolutely correct in that eating less calories will automatically mean weight loss. your body will always try to compensate and resist and is not really hip to the idea of losing some of its precious fat that it stored.

you can eat 1000 calories a day and lose almost no fat as your body realizes its being starved and starts to shut down... then starts relying more and more on burning muscle for energy.

[Jakke PNG]

..and I still want to see some proof in a form of an article or some unbiased website (not promoting the damn ebook), that this negative stuff really even exists. I'm quite sceptical.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
..and I still want to see some proof in a form of an article or some unbiased website (not promoting the damn ebook), that this negative stuff really even exists. I'm quite sceptical.

They do. They're called catabolic foods if I remember correctly.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
They do. They're called catabolic foods if I remember correctly.

Oh.
Another diet to read on then, if I'd find something about it.
I've red the atkins book and zone diet stuff as well as weigh-watchers stuff. I'm fascinated by food. Dunno why.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
..and I still want to see some proof in a form of an article or some unbiased website (not promoting the damn ebook), that this negative stuff really even exists. I'm quite sceptical.

i would imagine that you would just be insanely hungry all the time because your body knows that 1) you have ready access to food and 2) it needs much more to be satisfied.

here is a quick link from google.
http://www.healthrecipes.com/negative_calorie_foods.htm

but again, "weight loss" does not mean "fat loss"

[KidCock]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
..and I still want to see some proof in a form of an article or some unbiased website (not promoting the damn ebook), that this negative stuff really even exists. I'm quite sceptical.

Most links I found were all trying to seel some e-book too...

However the concept sounds pretty logical.

[KidCock]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
i misunderstood what you are trying to say. ALL diets rely on a caloric deficit at the end of the day (calories consumed vs. calories expended)


but you are also not absolutely correct in that eating less calories will automatically mean weight loss. your body will always try to compensate and resist and is not really hip to the idea of losing some of its precious fat that it stored.

you can eat 1000 calories a day and lose almost no fat as your body realizes its being starved and starts to shut down... then starts relying more and more on burning muscle for energy.

I think this might happen if this kind of 'diet' was stuck to for months....but I just don't think so for 2 weeks, I have enough fat to burn for that time period

Either way I know the idea method is to eat slightly less fat (or dirnk less) and up my exercise. However at the moment, 3 times a week for exercise is all I can do while working, gf, etc...

I think the ultimate solution, one that was working great was PLENTY OF SEX!! I blame my new gf for the decline on this one hehe

[Sly_RJ]

Here is some information: http://dietandbody.com/article1014.html

Like I said, I did this once. It was hell.