Who in their right mind can eat 17 lbs of celery a day :1orglaugh

What I'm talking about is the fruits for breakfast or snacks throughout the day, grilled chicken salad for lunch and maybe just salad for dinner or salad with some more meat or something.

That's what I mean.
If you eat a stalk of celery and have -2 calories (or whatever), that's not much 'extra' you can eat.

i misunderstood what you are trying to say. ALL diets rely on a caloric deficit at the end of the day (calories consumed vs. calories expended)


but you are also not absolutely correct in that eating less calories will automatically mean weight loss. your body will always try to compensate and resist and is not really hip to the idea of losing some of its precious fat that it stored.

you can eat 1000 calories a day and lose almost no fat as your body realizes its being starved and starts to shut down... then starts relying more and more on burning muscle for energy.

..and I still want to see some proof in a form of an article or some unbiased website (not promoting the damn ebook), that this negative stuff really even exists. I'm quite sceptical.

They do. They're called catabolic foods if I remember correctly.

Oh.
Another diet to read on then, if I'd find something about it. :)
I've red the atkins book and zone diet stuff as well as weigh-watchers stuff. I'm fascinated by food. Dunno why. :)

i would imagine that you would just be insanely hungry all the time because your body knows that 1) you have ready access to food and 2) it needs much more to be satisfied.

here is a quick link from google.
http://www.healthrecipes.com/negative_calorie_foods.htm

but again, "weight loss" does not mean "fat loss"

Most links I found were all trying to seel some e-book too...

However the concept sounds pretty logical.

I think this might happen if this kind of 'diet' was stuck to for months....but I just don't think so for 2 weeks, I have enough fat to burn for that time period :thumbsup

Either way I know the idea method is to eat slightly less fat (or dirnk less) and up my exercise. However at the moment, 3 times a week for exercise is all I can do while working, gf, etc...

I think the ultimate solution, one that was working great was PLENTY OF SEX!! I blame my new gf for the decline on this one hehe :1orglaugh

Here is some information: http://dietandbody.com/article1014.html

Like I said, I did this once. It was hell.

My mom tries those types of diets a lot because she's quite overweight....

However she never makes it because they are toio hard to stick to.

I tried telling her, her wieght gain is probably due to almost 0 exercise, eating sporadically (not at regular times) and not having a very good sleep schedule as well.

I think it is insane. Simply cut the crap out of your diet, get a bit more excerise (aside from sex) and do that on a regular basis and you will be fine. You stated that it was only a bit of weight you wanted to lose, maybe limit the McDonalds (for lack of a better example), you're not obese, you simply want to drop a few pounds......

The virgin you are dating can't be your exercise plan - anymore than sex with a crazed nympho can, so adjust accordingly and eat properly and you wont need some silly diet that finds you starving most the time....

I fail to see why sex can't be an exercise plan. 5-6 hours of sex will burn a hell of a lot of calories :thumbsup

I already don't eat McDonalds or any of the like, withthe exception of Subway. I've already cut down on some drinking, replaced some foods (like use mustard instead of mayo, drink whisky/water instead of whiskey/soft drink,e tc...)

That lost a few of the lbs, but just need to drop some more.

Every once in a while the retard called Pleasurepays shows up on a thread and uses his retarded arguments till he is blue in the face.

most diets are bullshit, including this one.

your body needs calories to function, carbs, protein and good fats at a min.

stay away from crap foods at all costs and excercise/weight train.

this diet sounds like complete shit

listen guys...

if you want to lose some fuckin weight, or gain some muscle mass, you do it the right way, the healthy way. don't try to look for the easy way out, or shortcuts.. you'll get fucked in the end.

ultimately you have to figure out your AMR, active metabolic rate (which is what i call it)..

go here: www.healthygo.com/signup1.php (this is my site, just fill out that brief form, and the next page'll tell you what you need to know)..

it'll tell you your BMR, and then tell you how many calories you need to consume to reach your goal (roughly).

ATKINS IS BULLSHIT. People do NOT need LESS carbs. They need LESS SIMPLE CARBS. A good healthy diet should consist of approximately 40% CARBS. 30% PROTEIN, 30% FATS. Or some like to think 40/40/20.

Stay away from Saturated fats, and Simple carbs.

And then secondly, EXERCISE.

Perform some type of cardio during the day that'll get your heart rate up a significant rate, for a significant amount of time.

It's not rocket science, the hardest part to reach physical goals (or any goal for that matter) is first taking initiative, and then keeping consistant.

Ultimately sticking with it will pay off.

Cool site :thumbsup

It tells me I have 14% body fat, so I'm only few % over what I should have (9-12%).

I burn 2400 calories at rest....is that good or slow ?

"The science" kind of makes me laugh. That was one of Dr Atkin's theories about why the Atkins diet worked. That certain foods burned more energy during the process of being turned into energy. It was proved to be false.

What really happens it that the list of foods you're allowed to eat from is relatively high in protein. You're allowed to eat as much as you want. The way the diet works is that you don't actually want to eat more, because you feel fuller quicker, and for longer. The diet works the same as any other diet.

Less calories = lose weight.

Hmmm....well let's take a single stick of celery for example.

If its 5 calories, are you sure you can't burn more than that in the eating process? Chewing (for me it takes lots of chews to swallow it), digesting it....

I would think its possible. Never read or cared ot read anything about ATkins diet though.

Isnt that mostly going to be roughage like celery?

You'd have some stunning craps but I doubt anyone could do something like this.

I did a bit of reading up and apparently that's true.

http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20040107.html

But i mean, there are only a few foods that you can do it with, and they're certainly not enough to make a diet out of. Perhaps as a snack replacement kind of deal. Sounds like a good idea.

actually the high fat diet works if done right. its one of the best diets to lose weight quickly while maintaining muscle mass.