How many times can you sell a set before it's over exposed? - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 06-26-2004, 06:22 AM

Just been chatting on ICQ with a client about another content provider who has recently closed down. No names, please.

He said his content was over exposed, which nmade me wonder how many times a set has to sold before it gets over exposed. I would say over 30 times.

Which then leads to the question of why they closed down. 30 sales at $20 is $600 and if you cant make money on a solo girl set selling it for that price you should not be in the business.

So how many sales before it's over exposed?

JFK · 06-26-2004, 08:09 AM

30 is not a lage # Dont forget its a big world out there, with millions of surfers

eroswebmaster · 06-26-2004, 08:12 AM

Honestly Charly I would have to wonder.

I don't submit galleries anymore but I remember a few years back I signed up with a content provider to be part of a limited number of people who were issued a set.

Anyway it never failed he would release 5 sets one week and within hours of getting the email I would submit a gallery with that set and would get declined because the TGP Owners had seen the set too many times...LOL..there must have been a super secret group of people who got the set days before me...or that so called "limited number" of people wasn't very limited.

Lykos · 06-26-2004, 09:15 AM

Yeah 30 is not much i guess...
so if u Charly sell it 30 times..u r good;)
I know providers who sell it more then 80 times..

StuartD · 06-26-2004, 09:18 AM

twice.

I don't think it's the number of times you sell it, but the number of times it's used.

If you sell a content set to 2 people, and those 2 people have 100's of galleries across all the top TGP's... as some people do... well... it'll be over exposed.

But if you sell it 100 times to people who can barely get a listing anywhere to save their life... as most people do.... it still won't get much exposure.

It's all in what happens after it's sold.

Paul Markham · 06-26-2004, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Honestly Charly I would have to wonder.

I don't submit galleries anymore but I remember a few years back I signed up with a content provider to be part of a limited number of people who were issued a set.

Anyway it never failed he would release 5 sets one week and within hours of getting the email I would submit a gallery with that set and would get declined because the TGP Owners had seen the set too many times...LOL..there must have been a super secret group of people who got the set days before me...or that so called "limited number" of people wasn't very limited.

One of the things I can never understand is why people come to buy from the store and ignore the most recent sets.

We list our content by default on the day it was posted on the site. Sets have to be there 2-3 weeks before they start to take off. I just wonder why when everyone is so keen to get fresh they buy 3-4 week old content.

*confused*

Paul Markham · 06-26-2004, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by Lykos
Yeah 30 is not much i guess...
so if u Charly sell it 30 times..u r good;)
I know providers who sell it more then 80 times..

Depends on the store, Bargain Basement Content Store they sell a lot mre, but then at $5 to $10 they have to.

On Paul Markham Content Store 30 is fine most of the time, good boy-girl and girl-girl sell more, but at $30 to $50 we are happy.

Tom_PMs · 06-26-2004, 10:08 AM

Everything old is new again

Sometimes I look for super OLD stuff. Gotta make a living somehow.

It's impossible sometimes like eros said.. You get a few tgp or link list reviewers who get the same "super-duper-secret-prerelease" as you and you're boned, lol.

tootie · 06-26-2004, 10:35 AM

Charly, I don't buy the most recent sets because when I've done that in the past I can't get listed with them. As someone said, I too have purchased sets that were supposedly brand new, just released a few hours earlier, and could not get listed because the sets was already over-exposed. It has been my experience that alot of people buy new content thinking it will be easier to get listed, but with several people having the same idea at the same time it's bound to cause instant over-exposure. Maybe that doesn't happen at your store for some reason, but why take that chance?

Okay, let's say you have 500 sets and you have 20 people per day purchase from your store. One one day, you release 3 new sets. 5 people out of the 20 might buy the 3 new sets, meaning all 5 are quite possibly submitting the same set on the same day, thinking they got it before anyone else. Meanwhile, the other 15 people have 500 other sets to choose from and it's not as likely that they would choose the same sets on the same day.

It's just too big of a risk to buy content when it's first used because you expect too many other people to have that idea, as well.

What I would like to see is a content provider that puts an absolute limit of 1 sale of a content set in the first week. The initial price would be maybe 2 times the normal price and the person who bought it first would get the set exclusively for a period of just one week, which would give the buyer time to build a gallery and get it submitted everywhere. After that time, it would be sold like normal. This would give people more of a reason to buy the new sets, and once released like normal it would have been a few days since the original buyer submitted it, making the chances of new buyers getting listed with it a little better. Lately I see some TGPs listing the same content 3-4 days apart, so it shouldn't be too hard to get listed with the TGPs that only have 2 days worth of galleries on their site at once.

Spunky · 06-26-2004, 10:36 AM

Until it stops selling

Abyss_Vee · 06-26-2004, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by charly
Depends on the store, Bargain Basement Content Store they sell a lot mre, but then at $5 to $10 they have to.

On Paul Markham Content Store 30 is fine most of the time, good boy-girl and girl-girl sell more, but at $30 to $50 we are happy.

900 bucks off of 1 set if sold 30 times , of course u will be happy

06-26-2004, 06:22 AM	#1
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	How many times can you sell a set before it's over exposed? Just been chatting on ICQ with a client about another content provider who has recently closed down. No names, please. He said his content was over exposed, which nmade me wonder how many times a set has to sold before it gets over exposed. I would say over 30 times. Which then leads to the question of why they closed down. 30 sales at $20 is $600 and if you cant make money on a solo girl set selling it for that price you should not be in the business. So how many sales before it's over exposed? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

06-26-2004, 08:09 AM	#2
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06-26-2004, 08:12 AM	#3
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	Honestly Charly I would have to wonder. I don't submit galleries anymore but I remember a few years back I signed up with a content provider to be part of a limited number of people who were issued a set. Anyway it never failed he would release 5 sets one week and within hours of getting the email I would submit a gallery with that set and would get declined because the TGP Owners had seen the set too many times...LOL..there must have been a super secret group of people who got the set days before me...or that so called "limited number" of people wasn't very limited. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

06-26-2004, 09:15 AM	#4
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,027	Yeah 30 is not much i guess... so if u Charly sell it 30 times..u r good;) I know providers who sell it more then 80 times.. __________________

06-26-2004, 09:18 AM	#5
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	twice. I don't think it's the number of times you sell it, but the number of times it's used. If you sell a content set to 2 people, and those 2 people have 100's of galleries across all the top TGP's... as some people do... well... it'll be over exposed. But if you sell it 100 times to people who can barely get a listing anywhere to save their life... as most people do.... it still won't get much exposure. It's all in what happens after it's sold. __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

06-26-2004, 10:08 AM	#8
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	Everything old is new again Sometimes I look for super OLD stuff. Gotta make a living somehow. It's impossible sometimes like eros said.. You get a few tgp or link list reviewers who get the same "super-duper-secret-prerelease" as you and you're boned, lol.

06-26-2004, 10:35 AM	#9
tootie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Planet Earp Posts: 6,041	Charly, I don't buy the most recent sets because when I've done that in the past I can't get listed with them. As someone said, I too have purchased sets that were supposedly brand new, just released a few hours earlier, and could not get listed because the sets was already over-exposed. It has been my experience that alot of people buy new content thinking it will be easier to get listed, but with several people having the same idea at the same time it's bound to cause instant over-exposure. Maybe that doesn't happen at your store for some reason, but why take that chance? Okay, let's say you have 500 sets and you have 20 people per day purchase from your store. One one day, you release 3 new sets. 5 people out of the 20 might buy the 3 new sets, meaning all 5 are quite possibly submitting the same set on the same day, thinking they got it before anyone else. Meanwhile, the other 15 people have 500 other sets to choose from and it's not as likely that they would choose the same sets on the same day. It's just too big of a risk to buy content when it's first used because you expect too many other people to have that idea, as well. What I would like to see is a content provider that puts an absolute limit of 1 sale of a content set in the first week. The initial price would be maybe 2 times the normal price and the person who bought it first would get the set exclusively for a period of just one week, which would give the buyer time to build a gallery and get it submitted everywhere. After that time, it would be sold like normal. This would give people more of a reason to buy the new sets, and once released like normal it would have been a few days since the original buyer submitted it, making the chances of new buyers getting listed with it a little better. Lately I see some TGPs listing the same content 3-4 days apart, so it shouldn't be too hard to get listed with the TGPs that only have 2 days worth of galleries on their site at once. __________________ Last edited by tootie; 06-26-2004 at 10:37 AM..

06-26-2004, 10:36 AM	#10
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