Bush 10 Points Ahead In Latest Polls - GoFuckYourself.com

Joe Citizen · 06-20-2004, 02:01 AM

If America votes for Bush again I think that gives the rest of the world the the justification for a pre-emptive strike.

What's good for the goose...

Corleone · 06-20-2004, 02:04 AM

whats your source?

i can't belive ppl are stupid enough to vote him again :/

Bansheelinks · 06-20-2004, 02:06 AM

I don't believe it. In fact, everything lately has Kerry in the lead by 7 points, and leading in key swing states, of which there are only about 20 left to decide.

Mutt · 06-20-2004, 02:10 AM

i read it this afternoon, i can't remember exactly who did the poll but i checked it out and it was a legitimate poll, not by some right wing group with a bias. It was a poll of 'likely voters' and the analysis was that the week long coronation of Reagan's corpse plus expansion of the economy boosted Bush's lead from 3 points to 10 points. It also said this June poll compared to other previous June presidential polls is inconclusive, Bush's lead is larger than the previous incumbent presidents who went on to lose the election, like his father, but his lead isn't as large as those who went on to win another election.

Mutt · 06-20-2004, 02:12 AM

ok i found it, it's a Harris poll.

President Bush's lead over Kerry widens and Cabinet members' ratings also rise

ROCHESTER, N.Y., June 18 /PRNewswire/ -- Is it the effect of the nation's
memories of Ronald Reagan or the expanding economy? Whatever the cause, the
latest Harris Poll has a lot of good news for President Bush and the
Republicans. The good news includes:

* A very modest improvement in President Bush's job ratings (which is
within the possible margin of sampling error) to 50% positive, 49%
negative.
* Significantly improved job ratings for Vice President Dick Cheney
(from 36% positive to 42% positive), Secretary of State Colin Powell
(from 63% positive to 67% positive), and Attorney General John
Ashhahahahaha (from 40% positive to 43% positive).
* Improved ratings for the Republicans in Congress (from 35% to 39%
positive), House Speaker Dennis Hastert (from 25% to 29% positive),
and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (from 26% to 30% positive).

However, the most startling change in the new Harris Poll compared to a
comparable survey in April, is that President Bush has widened his lead over
Senator John Kerry, from three points among likely voters then to 10 points
now.

What Does History Tell Us?
President Bush's June ratings suggest that the Presidential race is still
wide open. His current ratings are better than the June ratings of recent
presidents who were not re-elected (George H.W. Bush, Carter, Ford and
Johnson) but worse than the June ratings of the three who were re-elected
(Clinton, Reagan and Nixon).

PRESIDENT BUSH AND HIS PREDECESSORS
JOB APPROVAL RATINGS
President Date Positive Negative Not Sure Re-elected
George W. Bush June 2004 50 49 1 ?
Clinton June 1996 55 45 1 Yes
George H.W. Bush June 1992 32 67 1 No
Reagan June 1984 55 45 * Yes
Carter June 1980 26 73 1 No
Ford June 1976 41 57 2 No
Nixon June 1972 56 42 2 Yes
Johnson June 1968 45 No data No data No
(did not run)

*=Less than 0.5 percent

These are the results of a nationwide telephone survey of 991 adults by
Harris interactive conducted between June 8 and 15.

TABLE 1
BUSH VS. KERRY
"If the next presidential election were held today between George W. Bush
for the Republicans, John Kerry for the Democrats and Ralph Nader as an
Independent, for whom would you most likely vote?"

Base: All Adults
All Adults Likely Voters
April Now April Now
% % % %
George Bush 43 48 46 51
John Kerry 43 42 43 41
Ralph Nader 9 7 8 6
None of these 2 * 1 *
Not sure/Refused 2 2 2 1
Bush Lead 0 0 +3 +10
NOTE: Percentages may not add up to 100% due to rounding.

Mutt · 06-20-2004, 02:13 AM

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...02196096&EDATE

Bansheelinks · 06-20-2004, 02:15 AM

Ok........whew.........thats a small sample.........thanx for the post though..........I've seen much more legit polls lately, way more comprehensive, that give Kerry a 7 pt lead, including in key swing states, the 20 key ones, like Michigan, Illinois, etc.

sneakydialer · 06-20-2004, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corleone
whats your source?

i can't belive ppl are stupid enough to vote him again :/

People wasn't stupid enough to vote for him in the first time. He won the Presidency by the Electoral votes not the popular votes.

So 270 people are more important then 50,999,897

Bansheelinks · 06-20-2004, 02:17 AM

One thing's for sure...........if it was Reagan vs. Kerry, it would be another Republican rout.........that man knew how to campaign....he lost what only 5 or 6 states in TWO nation-wide presidential elections.......unreal.

Corleone · 06-20-2004, 02:20 AM

Bansheelinks · 06-20-2004, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corleone

LOL..........I wouldn't go that far..........I'm just being pragmatic and would settle for a president who will leave our biz basically alone.........and not open up a phony can of "obscenity" worms based on religious bias like Bush.

Obviously, that means Kerry over Bush and his Attorknee-jerk General, John Ass-head.

Corleone · 06-20-2004, 02:27 AM

Does he still care about osama btw?

=^..^= · 06-20-2004, 02:38 AM

i never believe polls liek that
every single person i have ever asked have all said they've NEVER been asked to give opinions in one of these types of polls

im sure they make it all up based on who's payign them

marcu5 · 06-20-2004, 03:13 AM

Where do these polls come from again? Most polls I've seen online Bush is ALWAYS behind. I've never honestly been polled or know anyone who has been polled about the election. So where are these statistics coming from?

I always stand me

80% of the statistics on ANYTHING are flawed/fake

doornx · 06-20-2004, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sneakydialer
People wasn't stupid enough to vote for him in the first time. He won the Presidency by the Electoral votes not the popular votes.

So 270 people are more important then 50,999,897

This is what puzzles me..why don't they just skip the electoral vote system ?

eroswebmaster · 06-20-2004, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
One thing's for sure...........if it was Reagan vs. Kerry, it would be another Republican rout.........that man knew how to campaign....he lost what only 5 or 6 states in TWO nation-wide presidential elections.......unreal.

I remember a line from Dennis Miller after the reelection and the joke went something like this..."Walter Mondale only beat me by 13 electoral votes and I didn't run."

ADL Colin · 06-20-2004, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by doornx
This is what puzzles me..why don't they just skip the electoral vote system ?

Mostly because the Constitution would have to be amended.

Just curious. Why do you not like the electoral system?

flattop · 06-20-2004, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
LOL..........I wouldn't go that far..........I'm just being pragmatic and would settle for a president who will leave our biz basically alone.........and not open up a phony can of "obscenity" worms based on religious bias like Bush.

Obviously, that means Kerry over Bush and his Attorknee-jerk General, John Ass-head.

Am I the only person that is sick of voting for the lessor Moron?
Anyhow check out http://www.RepublicansAgainstAshhahahahaha.com we just opened it you can be the second person to post on the board. Well hopefully you can figure out what the URl is supposed to be!

benc · 06-20-2004, 07:16 AM

It scares me when people who constantly preach about their Constitutional rights, want to throw things out that they don't like at the moment.

Personally, I think it will be a close election. Kerry suffers from the same thing as Gore. A very weak candidate. But he will benefit from the 'voting for the sake of change' votes, just as Bush did when a lot of people just wanted to be done with the whole Clinton adminstration.

BigFish · 06-20-2004, 07:22 AM

goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!

Mikey_219Inc · 06-20-2004, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish
goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? Bush is a redneck bible thumping retard. WTF all he has done is annoyed the rest of the world. he has not reduced the determination of al-quaeda, iraq is a disaster, he is an idiot and the world will be better off without him.

are you just a flag-waiver? have you ever left the US? I dont mean this as a personal attack against you, im honestly curious to know why you want to re-elect this fuckup.

mardigras · 06-20-2004, 07:51 AM

BigFish · 06-20-2004, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
Why? Bush is a redneck bible thumping retard. WTF all he has done is annoyed the rest of the world. he has not reduced the determination of al-quaeda, iraq is a disaster, he is an idiot and the world will be better off without him.

are you just a flag-waiver? have you ever left the US? I dont mean this as a personal attack against you, im honestly curious to know why you want to re-elect this fuckup.

Left the U.S.? Why is it that people ALWAYS ask that? So are you suggesting that people who do vote for Kerry left the U.S. before and people who vote Bush has never?

I know the answer, maybe it's because you hang around INTERNET boards all day long reading the political ANALYSIS of the world by morons. It shows that you're nothing but a loof with no mind of your own.

Why do I vote Bush.... Maybe because I can see past the daily news that focuses on what's happening now instead of in the future. Maybe I feel that Al Queda is not the creation of ONE MAN but was created as a result of decades of failed societies in the Middle East. We can argue about the subject of terrorism forever but in the end, it's a fact that the Middle East will never fix itself and outside intervention into the region was inevitable. Like with everything in life, short term headaches for long term happiness.

Corleone · 06-20-2004, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigFish
Why do I vote Bush.... Maybe because I can see past the daily news that focuses on what's happening now instead of in the future. Maybe I feel that Al Queda is not the creation of ONE MAN but was created as a result of decades of failed societies in the Middle East. We can argue about the subject of terrorism forever but in the end, it's a fact that the Middle East will never fix itself and outside intervention into the region was inevitable. Like with everything in life, short term headaches for long term happiness.

does bush still care about the al qaida?

Alex From San Diego · 06-20-2004, 08:04 AM

Bush will win easily....

jukeboxfrank · 06-20-2004, 09:45 AM

Nicely put Bigfish.....and you did it without calling someone a retard or fuckup most people here can not do that.....

Doctor Dre · 06-20-2004, 09:47 AM

Very weird ... how can this be real ? Bush alraedy control the medias so whatever.

clickhappy · 06-20-2004, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Bush will win easily....

why are you supporting someone who wants to see you out of business?

Doctor Dre · 06-20-2004, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigFish
Left the U.S.? Why is it that people ALWAYS ask that? So are you suggesting that people who do vote for Kerry left the U.S. before and people who vote Bush has never? I know the answer, maybe it's because you hang around INTERNET boards all day long reading the political ANALYSIS of the world by morons. It shows that you're nothing but a loof with no mind of your own.

Why do I vote Bush.... Maybe because I can see past the daily news that focuses on what's happening now instead of in the future. Maybe I feel that Al Queda is not the creation of ONE MAN but was created as a result of decades of failed societies in the Middle East. We can argue about the subject of terrorism forever but in the end, it's a fact that the Middle East will never fix itself and outside intervention into the region was inevitable. Like with everything in life, short term headaches for long term happiness.

Look do me a favor . Get the book "Dude where is my country" and tell me if you still vote for bush after

ADL Colin · 06-20-2004, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Look do me a favor . Get the book "Dude where is my country" and tell me if you still vote for bush after

Dude.

Babagirls · 06-20-2004, 09:51 AM

doesnt mean shit. what about the people dont do the polls or get offered to do them?? (like all of us webmasters online all the time).

maxdaname · 06-20-2004, 09:52 AM

Theo · 06-20-2004, 09:54 AM

polls are getting done through MPA2 platform and Kerry's stats are getting shaved

Tom_PMs · 06-20-2004, 09:59 AM

Polls are useless

I think we've even seen how elections can be useless as well.

goBigtime · 06-20-2004, 10:02 AM

Polls are such bullshit.

They rig them so they can announce them to the the public as a suggestive thinking campaign... "Bush is ahead by 10points....you don't want to vote for a loser do ya?"

Or, If you want a computer geek analogy....

Look at how they do benchmarks. One giant OS manufacturer just paid a 3rd party testing facility to benchmark their OS against a free open source up-and-comer that they are scared shitless of....

Do you think they are going to publish negative results from this paid testing source? Hell no. They are going to test and test again and play around with the numbers and tweak their OS until they get the results they like -- publishable results.

Whoever owns and works at the 'independent' polling company is going to vote one way or the other. (Think about a Diebold bias).

The sad part about (portions of) the American public is they see polls and let the the polls influence their vote because otherwise they might have to read about issues and political mumbo jumbo to try to understand what's going on - or god forbid, place a vote for someone who might not win.

/rant

ADL Colin · 06-20-2004, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Very weird ... how can this be real ? Bush alraedy control the medias so whatever.

It was only a few months ago when Bush had a lead in the polls - a strong one at times. Most of the time Bush has had a lead. Kerry pulled ahead about Feb 1 in his recent surge.

Theo · 06-20-2004, 10:06 AM

polls are bullshit mostly when we dont like their results

ADL Colin · 06-20-2004, 10:09 AM

Also, Kerry was up by 7 points in an MSNBC poll just 10 days ago. I don't think there's been that much of a swing. It's probably methodology. I know Gallup's methodology is pretty solid and it is about a neck and neck race according to them and has been for a number of months now.

goBigtime · 06-20-2004, 10:16 AM

You'll hear about this non-stop all week on Faux news.

"Bush up by 10 points!... err sorry.. we mean, this just in, Bush is leading the polls by 10 points according to our friends at..err.. according to Harris, a completely Fair and Balanced(tm) polling company"

Tom_PMs · 06-20-2004, 10:19 AM

In one recent poll that showed Kerry ahead, the repub. talking heads complained because they said most of those polled were registered dems, lmao.
Conclusion? Polls are Useless, regardless of whether you like the results or not.

Heres my "poll"

hehe

candyflip · 06-20-2004, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
ok i found it, it's a Harris poll.

President Bush's lead over Kerry widens and Cabinet members' ratings also rise

ROCHESTER, N.Y., June 18 /PRNewswire/ -- Is it the effect of the nation's
memories of Ronald Reagan or the expanding economy? Whatever the cause, the
latest Harris Poll has a lot of good news for President Bush and the
Republicans. The good news includes:

* A very modest improvement in President Bush's job ratings (which is
within the possible margin of sampling error) to 50% positive, 49%
negative.
* Significantly improved job ratings for Vice President Dick Cheney
(from 36% positive to 42% positive), Secretary of State Colin Powell
(from 63% positive to 67% positive), and Attorney General John
Ashhahahahaha (from 40% positive to 43% positive).
* Improved ratings for the Republicans in Congress (from 35% to 39%
positive), House Speaker Dennis Hastert (from 25% to 29% positive),
and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (from 26% to 30% positive).

However, the most startling change in the new Harris Poll compared to a
comparable survey in April, is that President Bush has widened his lead over
Senator John Kerry, from three points among likely voters then to 10 points
now.

What Does History Tell Us?
President Bush's June ratings suggest that the Presidential race is still
wide open. His current ratings are better than the June ratings of recent
presidents who were not re-elected (George H.W. Bush, Carter, Ford and
Johnson) but worse than the June ratings of the three who were re-elected
(Clinton, Reagan and Nixon).

PRESIDENT BUSH AND HIS PREDECESSORS
JOB APPROVAL RATINGS
President Date Positive Negative Not Sure Re-elected
George W. Bush June 2004 50 49 1 ?
Clinton June 1996 55 45 1 Yes
George H.W. Bush June 1992 32 67 1 No
Reagan June 1984 55 45 * Yes
Carter June 1980 26 73 1 No
Ford June 1976 41 57 2 No
Nixon June 1972 56 42 2 Yes
Johnson June 1968 45 No data No data No
(did not run)

*=Less than 0.5 percent

These are the results of a nationwide telephone survey of 991 adults by
Harris interactive conducted between June 8 and 15.

TABLE 1
BUSH VS. KERRY
"If the next presidential election were held today between George W. Bush
for the Republicans, John Kerry for the Democrats and Ralph Nader as an
Independent, for whom would you most likely vote?"

Base: All Adults
All Adults Likely Voters
April Now April Now
% % % %
George Bush 43 48 46 51
John Kerry 43 42 43 41
Ralph Nader 9 7 8 6
None of these 2 * 1 *
Not sure/Refused 2 2 2 1
Bush Lead 0 0 +3 +10
NOTE: Percentages may not add up to 100% due to rounding.

I don't know if this poll was actually taken in Rochester or not, but this city is largely Republican.

ADL Colin · 06-20-2004, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
I don't know if this poll was actually taken in Rochester or not

Not.

candyflip · 06-20-2004, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin
Not.

And you know this how?

Bansheelinks · 06-20-2004, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Look do me a favor . Get the book "Dude where is my country" and tell me if you still vote for bush after

I don't read socialist tripe.........I can't believe you are recommending Michael Moore, the liar of the left akin to Limbaugh being the liar for the right. Moore's a gasbag.

ADL Colin · 06-20-2004, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
And you know this how?

I'm saying that the Harris poll is not a survey of Rochester residents. I've read the methodology of that poll. Rochester is just where their headquarters is located.

The Truth Hurts · 06-20-2004, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
I don't know if this poll was actually taken in Rochester or not, but this city is largely Republican.

did you actually read the post, or are you just looking for an excuse because you don't like the results?

"These are the results of a nationwide telephone survey"

candyflip · 06-20-2004, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin
I'm saying that the Harris poll is not a survey of Rochester residents. I've read the methodology of that poll. Rochester is just where their headquarters is located.

Harris Communications. Their offices aren't too far from me and I had know clue that they were the "Harris Poll" people. Thanks for answering a question that pops into my head each time I drive by.

"Gee that's a big building...I wonder what it is they do there"

Never put it together and figured it out

candyflip · 06-20-2004, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
did you actually read the post, or are you just looking for an excuse because you don't like the results?

"These are the results of a nationwide telephone survey"

I wasn't making an excuse. Only read the numbers and made a statement. I could care less about the results. Votes are what count...not polls.

06-20-2004, 01:57 AM	#1
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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i read it this afternoon, i can't remember exactly who did the poll but i checked it out and it was a legitimate poll, not by some right wing group with a bias. It was a poll of 'likely voters' and the analysis was that the week long coronation of Reagan's corpse plus expansion of the economy boosted Bush's lead from 3 points to 10 points. It also said this June poll compared to other previous June presidential polls is inconclusive, Bush's lead is larger than the previous incumbent presidents who went on to lose the election, like his father, but his lead isn't as large as those who went on to win another election. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

06-20-2004, 02:12 AM	#7
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	ok i found it, it's a Harris poll. President Bush's lead over Kerry widens and Cabinet members' ratings also rise ROCHESTER, N.Y., June 18 /PRNewswire/ -- Is it the effect of the nation's memories of Ronald Reagan or the expanding economy? Whatever the cause, the latest Harris Poll has a lot of good news for President Bush and the Republicans. The good news includes: * A very modest improvement in President Bush's job ratings (which is within the possible margin of sampling error) to 50% positive, 49% negative. * Significantly improved job ratings for Vice President Dick Cheney (from 36% positive to 42% positive), Secretary of State Colin Powell (from 63% positive to 67% positive), and Attorney General John Ashhahahahaha (from 40% positive to 43% positive). * Improved ratings for the Republicans in Congress (from 35% to 39% positive), House Speaker Dennis Hastert (from 25% to 29% positive), and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (from 26% to 30% positive). However, the most startling change in the new Harris Poll compared to a comparable survey in April, is that President Bush has widened his lead over Senator John Kerry, from three points among likely voters then to 10 points now. What Does History Tell Us? President Bush's June ratings suggest that the Presidential race is still wide open. His current ratings are better than the June ratings of recent presidents who were not re-elected (George H.W. Bush, Carter, Ford and Johnson) but worse than the June ratings of the three who were re-elected (Clinton, Reagan and Nixon). PRESIDENT BUSH AND HIS PREDECESSORS JOB APPROVAL RATINGS President Date Positive Negative Not Sure Re-elected George W. Bush June 2004 50 49 1 ? Clinton June 1996 55 45 1 Yes George H.W. Bush June 1992 32 67 1 No Reagan June 1984 55 45 * Yes Carter June 1980 26 73 1 No Ford June 1976 41 57 2 No Nixon June 1972 56 42 2 Yes Johnson June 1968 45 No data No data No (did not run) =Less than 0.5 percent These are the results of a nationwide telephone survey of 991 adults by Harris interactive conducted between June 8 and 15. TABLE 1 BUSH VS. KERRY "If the next presidential election were held today between George W. Bush for the Republicans, John Kerry for the Democrats and Ralph Nader as an Independent, for whom would you most likely vote?" Base: All Adults All Adults Likely Voters April Now April Now % % % % George Bush 43 48 46 51 John Kerry 43 42 43 41 Ralph Nader 9 7 8 6 None of these 2 1 * Not sure/Refused 2 2 2 1 Bush Lead 0 0 +3 +10 NOTE: Percentages may not add up to 100% due to rounding. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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=^..^= Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ 380-366 Posts: 6,935	i never believe polls liek that every single person i have ever asked have all said they've NEVER been asked to give opinions in one of these types of polls im sure they make it all up based on who's payign them __________________ #RememberYourRoots #AaronMForGFYHOF

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Joe Citizen Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,552	If America votes for Bush again I think that gives the rest of the world the the justification for a pre-emptive strike. What's good for the goose...

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Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	whats your source? i can't belive ppl are stupid enough to vote him again :/

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Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	I don't believe it. In fact, everything lately has Kerry in the lead by 7 points, and leading in key swing states, of which there are only about 20 left to decide.

06-20-2004, 02:15 AM	#9
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	Ok........whew.........thats a small sample.........thanx for the post though..........I've seen much more legit polls lately, way more comprehensive, that give Kerry a 7 pt lead, including in key swing states, the 20 key ones, like Michigan, Illinois, etc.

06-20-2004, 02:17 AM	#11
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	One thing's for sure...........if it was Reagan vs. Kerry, it would be another Republican rout.........that man knew how to campaign....he lost what only 5 or 6 states in TWO nation-wide presidential elections.......unreal.

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Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	Does he still care about osama btw?

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marcu5 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 1,485	Where do these polls come from again? Most polls I've seen online Bush is ALWAYS behind. I've never honestly been polled or know anyone who has been polled about the election. So where are these statistics coming from? I always stand me 80% of the statistics on ANYTHING are flawed/fake __________________

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benc Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 788	It scares me when people who constantly preach about their Constitutional rights, want to throw things out that they don't like at the moment. Personally, I think it will be a close election. Kerry suffers from the same thing as Gore. A very weak candidate. But he will benefit from the 'voting for the sake of change' votes, just as Bush did when a lot of people just wanted to be done with the whole Clinton adminstration. __________________ Numerous Adult and Non Adult Domains For Sale Such as SlutVideos.com, FitWomen.com Listed on Sedo or can do direct sale

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Alex From San Diego Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,642	Bush will win easily....

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	polls are getting done through MPA2 platform and Kerry's stats are getting shaved

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Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	Polls are useless I think we've even seen how elections can be useless as well.

06-20-2004, 10:02 AM	#37
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	Polls are such bullshit. They rig them so they can announce them to the the public as a suggestive thinking campaign... "Bush is ahead by 10points....you don't want to vote for a loser do ya?" Or, If you want a computer geek analogy.... Look at how they do benchmarks. One giant OS manufacturer just paid a 3rd party testing facility to benchmark their OS against a free open source up-and-comer that they are scared shitless of.... Do you think they are going to publish negative results from this paid testing source? Hell no. They are going to test and test again and play around with the numbers and tweak their OS until they get the results they like -- publishable results. Whoever owns and works at the 'independent' polling company is going to vote one way or the other. (Think about a Diebold bias). The sad part about (portions of) the American public is they see polls and let the the polls influence their vote because otherwise they might have to read about issues and political mumbo jumbo to try to understand what's going on - or god forbid, place a vote for someone who might not win. /rant Last edited by goBigtime; 06-20-2004 at 10:04 AM..

06-20-2004, 10:06 AM	#39
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	polls are bullshit mostly when we dont like their results

06-20-2004, 10:09 AM	#40
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Also, Kerry was up by 7 points in an MSNBC poll just 10 days ago. I don't think there's been that much of a swing. It's probably methodology. I know Gallup's methodology is pretty solid and it is about a neck and neck race according to them and has been for a number of months now. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

06-20-2004, 10:16 AM	#41
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	You'll hear about this non-stop all week on Faux news. "Bush up by 10 points!... err sorry.. we mean, this just in, Bush is leading the polls by 10 points according to our friends at..err.. according to Harris, a completely Fair and Balanced(tm) polling company"

06-20-2004, 10:19 AM	#42
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	In one recent poll that showed Kerry ahead, the repub. talking heads complained because they said most of those polled were registered dems, lmao. Conclusion? Polls are Useless, regardless of whether you like the results or not. Heres my "poll" hehe