50 ignorant republican pornographers.

HE HAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE ISSUE? How many people were prosecuted under Clinton, and how many so far under Bush? Don't know? That's because you're a fucking moron.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you have to be a special kind of fool to support someone who wants YOU out of business and in prison. :1orglaugh

HEY RICH I SEE YOUR DUM ASS IS IN THIS THREAD!

you talk big, u said u bet iginla and kipper will be traded,

i will bet u $3k they stay in calgary come next season.

u down? or are u a pussy who just talks alot?

Hey now, there's no room to start making sense in this thread. :winkwink:

banning people from forums = useless

they come back anyway

hahahaha, I knew I'd piss of the Alberta crowd with that one! Just fucking with you guys, I love the Flames and I hope both of those guys stay.

It's moot anyway, there will be no NHL season next year. :(

If I'm not wanted here I will not come back.

haha all good, id thought id try to tick u off into betting, because it would have been the worst bet of your life. :Graucho :glugglug

That is a very stupid statement to a legitiment question...

and colin is very serious about business, and I am sure has weighed the potential risks of voting for this admiistration for a second term.

you should be as lucky to be as wise or as informed as colin...

grow up man.

TYo answear the question at hand though I say no he should not... if he turned someone in for doing something illegal that is up to him to decide, and for the justice dept. to decide if it actually is illegal, I am not sure of what you are talking about specifically, but I am adding my two cents on the question as a genral question. But I doo agree that if it was done just out of revenge, and not done as an act of trying to do the right thing as he percieved it, then that is pretty weak, and people should judge that accordingly.

don't start a poll about it because besides being embarrassed by it, you won't leave and just give us another example of you being a liar.:1orglaugh

hehe, you almost did with the dumb ass comment. :1orglaugh

I could never bet against one of my favorite teams sticking together though. Plus, it would be suicide for the owners to not keep those two. :glugglug

Go ahead and start a poll 12dicksmacks, looks pretty clear that you're in the visible minority on this one.

Ron you're just worried because you know as soon as they set up a website to prosecute scumware I won't hesitate for a second reporting your scamming ass. :1orglaugh

no shit... and your point is?! You seem to have a hard time understanding that there is one administration worse than the other... one administration that made
cracking down on obscenity a top priority... one administration that put Ashahahahaha, a religious extremist as the Attorney General..

Where's the "head in the sand" smiley..? lol

yeah, thats what I thought. you know the outcome if YOU started the poll.:1orglaugh

really son? can you post a few threads of federal obsinity prosecutions?
that would really teach me a lesson.:1orglaugh

And once you do, I'll own you son. :winkwink:

Rich, as a newbie I assume you haven't been in the business long enough to see the last attorney general defending internet censorship in the form of CDA. That's right. ACLU vs. Janet Reno. You weren't around when Clinton signed CDA into law, an unconstitutional abridgement of our rights. Why do I say it was Unconstitutional? Because the (Conservative majority no less) Supreme Court said so. You can thank them.

Before that was Reagan/Bush. Quite a few obscenity cases brought to trial. Again, no friend of the business.

And what would Kerry bring us? Another of those who voted "yea" on the unconstitutional CDA.

Now maybe you know who your enemy is but you sure don't know who your friends are. "Enemy of your business"? You dabble in adult and make pocket change making and submitting AVS sites. You're a part time adult webmaster with a webmaster board personality and that's it. People like 12 Clicks and I have been doing business together for years. Maybe if you spent a little time trying to cultivate business with people like us instead of threatening our businesses you would grow from making your little AVS sites.

. if it didnt happen yet.. it wont happen... lol.. Sounds like the republican view on global warming... lol

you have religious lobby groups that put pressure on the administration to crackdown on obscenity... they remind the president every chance they get that THEY put him in office... This adminsitration had to deal with the terrorist attacks, Iraq, the economy... and you came up with ..if it didnt happen yet.. it wont happen !?? Dont you ever listen to what your man Ash.cr.oft has to say..?? 12clicks.. you havent made me laugh that hard since you tried to tell us your thoughts on the speed of light and how Einstein was wrong... lol

carry on.. "old man" ...

he sould be more than banned. He's a asswipe for even saying it even if he didn't mean if. Some thing like that is **NO** joking matter.

I've made tens of millions of dollars in the online Casino business, and I'm more than willing to prove it. For the past year and a half I've been researching the adult industry and trying every different source of traffic I could find. You find one comment about AVS traffic and somehow take that to mean I'm a newbie, ignoring 30 threads about PPC SE's and other things.

Besides the one bet I've offered and you've backed out of, I'd also be willing to bet that I've spent more on Google adwords and at overture on adult terms alone in the past year then you've spent on advertising in your life. Also, before they stopped allowing it I spent more on gaming terms then you've made in your life. $25 per click I was paying at one point and making a profit. Either of those bets I'll take @ $10,000 through escrow.com right now. Put up or shut up time, once again son.

Before talking like you know me you should take me up on my bet so I can prove that you're a fucking liar. Why won't you? Because you're a fucking liar. You have a little more brains then him but when it comes down to it, you're no better than 12clicks. You have no problem lying about someone else maliciously to try to get your point across.

Translation: there are no links. again, I'm talking out of my ass.

beautiful dreamer la de da dahhhhhh...:1orglaugh

Well that would actually be nice for a change, I'm getting bored of owning you every time you open your mouth here. It's too easy.

Still getting your information from the "World Tribune"? Rush's favorite "big UK Newspaper"? Maybe that's who told you that Clinton was prosecuting pornographers to the same degree Bush is. :1orglaugh

Oh wait, your favorite source isn't a "big UK Newspaper" like Rush told you it was. In fact, it's a pathetic little propaganda website run by a Reverend Sun Myung Moon follower from his basement. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Talk about owned.

I love how "if I'm not wanted here I'll leave" turns into "I've made 10s of millions of dollars"
:1orglaugh


just post your poll and then leave.:1orglaugh

ahahaha, you've owned me just about as many times as you';ve made millions on the net.
I suggest you go back to that thread and read it again before you embarrass yourself further.

Can you say "desperately seeking the social approval of his superiors"? Is there a DSM IV term for that?

How long do you think it will be before Rich starts bragging about his "3 college degrees" again? What do you think they are in?

yeah, its called "little man's desease" :1orglaugh

Are you saying that Bush and Asskroft aren't fighting porn? If I get you some links, will you shut the fuck up already? I'm not going to waste my time educating you again if it's just going to go in one ear and out the other like it always does.

You want links? lol

http://www.obscenitycrimes.org/

Report yourself there and see if your right wing bullshit saves you from "God's wrath". :1orglaugh

Funny how in your own mind you've put me in my place... lol

I just answered your questions about the links and yet you refuse to understand what I said...

http://ystv.york.ac.uk/fun/caption/caption01.jpg
a young 12clicks?

or his corvette. you know, when you've made 10s of millions of dollars with casinos, I here that the status symbol.
:1orglaugh

why would anyone have to bet $10,000.00 just to get you to back up your rediculous claims about sucess and wealth if those claims were legitimate?

someone as successful as you claim to be would not be spending his time on GFY posting all day about nothing.

if you have $10,000.00 to risk... you better hang on to it. i suspect it would be the most money you have ever had in one sum in your life.

No, I'm saying you're a loser who wouldn't dare make a poll about leaving because your ego couldn't take the truth.:1orglaugh

Rich,

What do you think of the above? I noticed you ignored it. Do you even know what CDA was? It was a law passed that made it a crime punishable by two years in jail and/or a $250,000 fine for anyone to engage in speech that is "indecent" or "patently offensive" on computer networks if the speech can be viewed by a minor.

The ACLU filed suits to keep Reno from beginning the prosecutions.

Now, I'm not happy one bit that Ashhahahahaha has 32 prosecutors ready to prosecute obscenity but any reasoned non-partisan analysis would come to the conclusion that the last administration was just as bad and the only thing that stopped them was the Supreme Court.

Don't you agree?

Desperately seeking approval? That's what it's called when you defend yourself against malicious comments made by two people?

If I'm so crazy then take my $10,000 you lying sack of shit. 3 bets are on the table, surely you could at least win one of them, right? Don't hate me because you went to an ivy league school and still have to work 9-5 to pay your bills.

Don't make me pull out the picture of tweety bird chirping away. That's seems to be all you big talkers can do, chirp. Everything I say I'm perfectly willing to back up, you should be embarrassed that you can't say the same.

I understand clearly. there are no links. :1orglaugh

Look at me! I'm Rich! I make hundreds of millions secretly in the casino business but no, I can't tell you which sites. Shhhh! It's a secret!

Not everyone has a tiny dick and needs to buy status symbols and have a handlebar mustache. I buy a new Z06 every year or two because Corvettes have been my passion since I was a kid, and I enjoy ripping out to the lake in them. My actions are not designed to impress you or anyone, they're designed for my own personal enjoyment. People who don't have inferiority complexes like you do will understand where I'm coming from.

little man's desease:
taking a thread about one thing and turning it into a platform to lie about how much you have (again):1orglaugh

I do agree that the Clinton administration was going to prosecute pornographers as well, I don't know where you think I argued that. I know both you and I understand the difference in degrees, one was making a voter pleasing eye candy attempt, and the other has made it their #1 priority. If they would have launched a site like the one Asskroft has, I would have fought it too.

dude, its not cool to bring your wife into this thread.
ohhhhhhhh, a z06, my bad! :1orglaugh
but your posts are.
I understand completely. please go back to talking about your millions, little man.:1orglaugh

Please... you talk about a time when internet was new and the though of regulating the internet was a legitimate idea... Second.. parties in the opposition are known to contradict the party in power just for the sake of it.... NOW.. things are different.. the republicans are in power... elcted on a mandate to crackdown on obscenity... they have put it on their list of top priorities... put Asch.c.roft as Attorney General... Now.. as a " reasoned non-partisan analysis" .. tell me.. that a future Bush administartion elected will not be worst for people working in the adult industry then a Kerry administration...? and please.. try to keep a straight face...

You've got to be kidding. A $250,000 fine and 2 years in jail is not pleasing to this voter and the fact that you would dismiss it as "eye candy" is really pathetic. That was one frightening time for the business when that law passed. The only difference is that you are trying to tell a story "Bush Bad, Clinton Good" and to do so you are willing to argue that Clinton was "just trying to please voters" by imposing $250,000 fines and 2 year jail sentences on us. Sad, Rich. I know you weren't around back then but read up on it a little. You'll see what I mean.

well, my day is over. it was fun.
see you tomorrow you casino millionaire you!

Look at me??? I've kept quiet about my money for 2 years until you started guys continually bringing it up. I don't brag or try to bring other people down, not online and not in my personal life. Money is not that important to me, I'm glad I have it but I wouldn't trade it for my family, friends, health, or intelligence.

What am I supposed to say, 'yeah, you guys are right, I have 1 AVS site and that's my life'? I've laughed off 12dicks "McDonalds" jokes for 2 years because he just makes himself look stupid. When you and Pathfinder all start slandering me, I feel the need to defend myself. I guess I should ignore you all and be the bigger man like I have been with 12dicks, but after a while a guy gets fed up with you jackasses. AVS isn't even close to the biggest part of my adult business, in fact I don't even have 1 AVS site anymore. Come to think of it, with my AVS empire gone, how the fuck am I paying for the internet connection I'm using???!! Shit, can someone lend me $100 so I can keep posting? :1orglaugh

I keep a low profile here because it's a controversial place and I say controversial things, if you don't like it then YOU LEAVE. Or, buy the board and ban me. :321GFY

That's the maximum, and it was for illegal sites such as beastility and child porn accesible to minors if I'm not mistaken. If I remember correctly this law was NOT going to affect pay sites or AVS sites at all. (thank God for me, lol).

Interesting theory but then three years later Clinton signed COPA and again there was a trial and again it was ruled unconstitutional.

Which is why 49th Parallel should be banned for some stupid shit he said to me. He's just a fucking lowlife who hides and does nothing but file complaints like a BITCH.

http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...hreadid=311668

This fuck should be banned.

You think it was ruled unconstitutional to protect bestiality and child porn? No, it was ruled unconstitutional because it violated the court's interpretation of what the first amendment protects.

You are correct that pay sites and AVS would have likely not been targeted. I don't see that argument as any different than the many adult webmasters who think the chance of the current admin prosecuting them in particular as being very low. You are making the same argument Republicans are. "I don't think it will effect me so who cares?"

I didn't say I didn't care, I said I would be against it as well. While I don't support it, I do however see the DIFFERENCE between an honest attempt to keep kids away from porn, and shutting down legal adult only websites.

Please don't get the idea that I think Clinton was the almighty perfect President. I do think he was a great man who was honestly trying to make the world a better place, and did, but he also did fuck up several times. Rwanda being #1, I was sending letters to everyone in his administration while that was going on.