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Old 06-23-2004, 11:49 AM   #1
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Fahrentheit 9/11

Can't wait, it's gonna be good
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Yes, but remember it's a one sided story. A lot of what he reports in the movie are facts but one sided. I want to see it as well but I don't think people will be fair.
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Is this a political movie?
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Is this a political movie?
It makes Bush look really really bad.

It could cost him the election if enough people see this movie.
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i just saw an ad for it and it showed him saying all countries should work to destroy terror then he says to the press "Watch this drive" then hits a golfball
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It makes Bush look really really bad.

It could cost him the election if enough people see this movie.
which is the best thing about this movie
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When is this? Is this going to be a actual move or a TV movie?

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another intriguing question, was the movie politically funded by Kerry to ruin Bush?
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When it comes down to it, most Americans, even on the left don't like political things. Remember Moore getting heavily booed at the Oscars by hollywood types.
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Dollar: Hitchens on Michael Moore's Latest "Documentary" (June 22, 2004)
The Left's Christopher Hitchens (columnist for Vanity Fair) on Michael Moore's latest movie: http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/?GT1=3584#correct

The money quote:
Moore's movie is "a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of 'dissenting' bravery."

On Moore and his admirers:
"To [Moore], easy applause, in front of credulous audiences, is everything."

On Moore's 'history' of Iraq:
"We are introduced to Iraq, 'a sovereign nation.' (In fact, Iraq's 'sovereignty' was heavily qualified by international sanctions, however questionable, which reflected its noncompliance with important U.N. resolutions.) In this peaceable kingdom, according to Moore's flabbergasting choice of film shots, children are flying little kites, shoppers are smiling in the sunshine, and the gentle rhythms of life are undisturbed. Then?wham! From the night sky come the terror weapons of American imperialism...I don't think Al Jazeera would, on a bad day, have transmitted anything so utterly propagandistic. You would also be led to think that the term 'civilian casualty' had not even been in the Iraqi vocabulary until March 2003..."

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"But if you leave out absolutely everything that might give your 'narrative' a problem and throw in any old rubbish that might support it, and you don't even care that one bit of that rubbish flatly contradicts the next bit, and you give no chance to those who might differ, then you have betrayed your craft. ... At no point does Michael Moore make the smallest effort to be objective. At no moment does he pass up the chance of a cheap sneer or a jeer."
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another intriguing question, was the movie politically funded by Kerry to ruin Bush?

Why would he need funding from kerry?
His last few movies did pretty well their own and created quite a stir aswell.
Pretty sure Bush didnt need moores hhelp to ruin him, he did that all too well on his own

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When is this? Is this going to be a actual move or a TV movie?

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As of this morning, a little over 500 theaters have agreed to show the movie beginning next Friday, June 25. There are three national/regional theater chains who, as of today, have not booked the movie in their theaters. One theater owner in Illinois has reported receiving death threats.
Damn, and I just looked at our movie listings for Friday out here, and the big Regal ones aren't showing this movie in my area.

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Old 06-23-2004, 12:03 PM   #14
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It makes Bush look really really bad.

It could cost him the election if enough people see this movie.
I think he's doing a good job of that on his own, from what I've seen
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Old 06-23-2004, 12:08 PM   #15
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I'm looking forward to seeing too

You can check out the trailer at http://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer/

and to see where it's playing visit http://www.f911tix.com/

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Old 06-23-2004, 12:16 PM   #17
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Cant wait...
This is gonna be unreal

Check out his website
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Check out the trailer for this movie...
Sure would make me wanna see it if I was american!
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Old 06-23-2004, 12:17 PM   #18
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I can't wait to see it

Michael Moore's work is always entertaining

and notice, he's not touting it as a "documentary" rather an "op/ed piece" hehehe
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Old 06-23-2004, 12:22 PM   #19
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im going see it on saturday!
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The trailer looks good, can't wait
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It makes Bush look really really bad.

It could cost him the election if enough people see this movie.
bush makes himself look really bad
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When it comes down to it, most Americans, even on the left don't like political things. Remember Moore getting heavily booed at the Oscars by hollywood types.
lol... sure...
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Old 06-23-2004, 12:36 PM   #24
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Why would he need funding from kerry?
His last few movies did pretty well their own and created quite a stir aswell.
Pretty sure Bush didnt need moores hhelp to ruin him, he did that all too well on his own


just me, i never liked the trailer... its one-sided. amids the on-going investigation conducted, its just not fair to claim that Bush was to be held solely responsible of the 9/11.
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Yeah.. The critics didn't like it..

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Fahrenheit911-1133649/



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"[Moore's] most disciplined and powerful movie to date."
A.O. Scott, The New York Times

"The movie's conclusions -- true or otherwise -- and highly emotional interviews with bereaved parents and injured soldiers will have a big impact on audiences around the world."
-- Ian Youngs, BBC

"Say what you will about Moore's politics, but he knows how to make a good movie."
-- Willie Waffle, WAFFLEMOVIES.COM

"...see if you don't cringe when you see Bush talk to the media about being dedicated to fighting terrorism and segue into "Now watch this drive!" as he tees off."
-- John Venable, SUPERCALA.COM

"The result is a scary, funny, moving and angry film is perhaps the most devastating item leveled at a sitting U.S. President since the days of Watergate."
-- Peter Sobczynski, CRITIC DOCTOR


"Right now, in the summer of 2004, Fahrenheit 9/11 is an absolute good."
-- Eugene Novikov, FILM BLATHER

"...neither a great director or a great thinker, [Moore] has managed to make a film that is tough and true ? if not in the particulars, in its grave and profound progress."
-- Philip Martin, ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE

"Makes you want to go straight to the White House and punch everyone in the gut. "
-- Kevin N. Laforest, MONTREAL FILM JOURNAL

"In pure filmic terms, Fahrenheit 911 is a second-rate documentary, but it is first-rate entertainment and top-notch muckraking."
-- Mark Keizer, BOXOFFICE MAGAZINE

"...if there is one movie that you will see this year, make sure that it's Fahrenheit 9/11."
-- JoBlo, JOBLO'S MOVIE EMPORIUM

"Not just a scathing indictment against the President.. but a deeply patriotic movie which reminds us of the principal tenets which makes a true democracy so great"
-- Edward Havens, FILMJERK.COM

"It's angry agit-prop - a brilliant blame game - and its real effectiveness as muckraking propaganda may be reflected by the outcome of the November elections."
-- Susan Granger, WWW.SUSANGRANGER.COM

". . . an explosive and heart wrenching piece of cinema . . ."
-- Mark Salisbury, PREMIERE MAGAZINE

"The conditional humanity that marred much of Bowling For Columbine is here, but [the result is] powerful, maddening and heartfelt."
-- Mark Palermo, COAST (HALIFAX, NOVA SCOTIA)


"Its politics notwithstanding, the art of Fahrenheit 9/11 is extraordinary."
-- David Levine, FILMCRITIC.COM

"It?s less about catching officials off guard than about showing how the nation?s number one official is permanently off guard."
-- Ben Kenigsberg, EAST HAMPTON INDEPENDENT


"What I look for in a Moore film is not an objective study, but passionate commitment, honest outrage and biting sarcasm. In this case, two outta three ain?t bad."
-- Dan Jardine, APOLLO GUIDE

"Like him or not, once you see it, you?ll have to admit that the guy has balls."
-- Stefan Halley, HERO REALM

"If Fahrenheit 9/11 feels like a work in progress, that?s only natural?by film?s end, you get a sense that it'll never be finished until George W. Bush is too."
-- Ed Gonzalez, SLANT MAGAZINE

"Moore portrays Bush as a thicko hick who spent 42% of his first eight months in office on vacation."
-- Annette Dasey, TELETEXT (UK)


"If Moore is formidable, it's not because he is a great filmmaker (far from it), but because he infuses his sense of ridicule with the fury of moral indignation. Fahrenheit 9/11 is strongest when that wrath is vented on Bush and his cohorts."
-- J. Hoberman, VILLAGE VOICE

"The film doesn't go for satirical humor the way Moore's Roger & Me and Bowling for Columbine did. Moore's narration is still often sarcastic, but frequently he lets his footage speak for itself."
-- Roger Ebert, CHICAGO SUN-TIMES

"A brisk and entertaining indictment of the Bush Administration?s middle East policies before and after September 11, 2001."
-- Mary Corliss, TIME MAGAZINE

"To dismiss Fahrenheit 9/11 as "Anti-American propaganda" is doing the movie, the issues, the troops, and the country a grave disservice."
-- Jurgen Fauth, ABOUT.COM

"The director has always been at his strongest on the cusp between anger and humour, but there are simply too few such inspired episodes here."
-- Stephen Dalton, TIMES OF LONDON

Ferociously, cathartically funny."
-- Peter Travers, ROLLING STONE

"What's remarkable here isn't Moore's political animosity or ticklish wit. It's the well-argued, heartfelt power of his persuasion."
-- Desson Thomson, WASHINGTON POST

"[Moore's] most disciplined and powerful movie to date."
-- A.O. Scott, NEW YORK TIMES

"... a powerful piece of filmmaking by Michael Moore."
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When it comes down to it, most Americans, even on the left don't like political things. Remember Moore getting heavily booed at the Oscars by hollywood types.
I'd say that booing was political - probably mostly by people who own guns.
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Prediction: this will be the most accurate review of a movie, ever.


Oh lord, I wish you'd at least pretend to be smart. Saying it's "the most accurate review of a movie, ever", when you haven't seen the movie, is insane to any person with at least a grade school comprehension level.

"The truth hurts" indeed, you're a fool who can always be counted on to make the most stupid post in any given thread.
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Oh lord, I wish you'd at least pretend to be smart. Saying it's "the most accurate review of a movie, ever", when you haven't seen the movie, is insane to any person with at least a grade school comprehension level.

"The truth hurts" indeed, you're a fool who can always be counted on to make the most stupid post in any given thread.
perhaps you should look up the word "prediction"
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Yes, but remember it's a one sided story. A lot of what he reports in the movie are facts but one sided. I want to see it as well but I don't think people will be fair.
Exactly! And this is why I also want to see this movie. We've already seen that (bush's) side for number of times (no FOX, CNN etc). Furthermore, I the only side we know is bush's "true". This is unfair. We have deserved to see another (non-bush's) side at least once. And let it be Fahrentheit 9/11.

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It makes Bush look really really bad.

It could cost him the election if enough people see this movie.
i certainly hope that is the result.
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Oh lord, I wish you'd at least pretend to be smart. Saying it's "the most accurate review of a movie, ever", when you haven't seen the movie, is insane to any person with at least a grade school comprehension level.

"The truth hurts" indeed, you're a fool who can always be counted on to make the most stupid post in any given thread.

hahaha owned. Don't worry, I saw him edit it to "prediction" right before you posted this. It originally said something like "that is the most accurate movie review ever", proving once again just how stupid people like the truth hurts are.
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He edited his original post.
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hahaha owned. Don't worry, I saw him edit it to "prediction" right before you posted this. It originally said something like "that is the most accurate movie review ever", proving once again just how stupid people like the truth hurts are.
Ok good, I thought he got away with it. I don't like to insult people but everything out of this guys mouth is bullshit.
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"The truth hurts" indeed, you're a fool who can always be counted on to make the most stupid post in any given thread.
you're opinion is irrelevant.
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It makes Bush look really really bad.

It could cost him the election if enough people see this movie.
Yeah, I'm hoping this movie motivates people to vote and possibly look beyond what we are all shown by the U.S. media. Moore made a good point on Dateline the other night, that there are fewer and fewer big companies with ownership of the U.S. television stations, which is quite scary leaving it up to a small group of people to decide what we all see on the news.

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They're not playing it anywhere here - bu I'm definiely going to find a way to see it... even if I have to travel. I hope this gets people to get out and vote.
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