Choker speaks out about SleazyDream - GoFuckYourself.com

David! · 12-23-2004, 04:08 PM

Read the full story here

Roald · 12-23-2004, 04:17 PM

nice article

Pornwolf · 12-23-2004, 04:21 PM

I didn't know there was drama!

TheEbonyFelony · 12-23-2004, 04:23 PM

Choker Is Good People

Wiggles · 12-23-2004, 04:24 PM

great article, choker is a great guy, should be unbanned.

More Booze · 12-23-2004, 04:25 PM

Choker is a good guy

bignasty · 12-23-2004, 04:25 PM

interesting article, was a good read.

Halcyon · 12-23-2004, 04:26 PM

Another good interview. Doug kicks ass!

TheSwed · 12-23-2004, 04:27 PM

Interesting reading

Furious_Male · 12-23-2004, 04:27 PM

Great article..

candyflip · 12-23-2004, 04:28 PM

Choker:
It?s not made up -- not at all. I really do think that Sleazy Dream is a pedophile. Anyone that would see a video like that and have sexual thoughts, that?s what a pedophile is. I?m extremely disappointed with the actions of Adult.com for banning me without even talking to me. My banning on GFY is GFY's loss. I am not going to kiss Sleazy Dreams or Lensman's (Adult.com) ass.

escorpio · 12-23-2004, 04:30 PM

Choker

SleazyDream

Manowar · 12-23-2004, 04:30 PM

very intresting reading. the whole article

The Other Steve · 12-23-2004, 04:31 PM

It's always interesting to see what drives a man and even more interesting when you see it in yourself because then you get a look at where you can be if you keep on trying.

Sami · 12-23-2004, 04:34 PM

nice article indeed :D

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-23-2004, 04:35 PM

Excellent read

MrIzzz · 12-23-2004, 04:42 PM

i never get involved with anyone else's drama. both choker and sleazy are two of the biggest TGP players on the block. and they've both been great entrepeneurs over the years. i wonder if their beef can ever be resolved?

Dalai lama · 12-23-2004, 04:44 PM

Interesting read.

Pornwolf · 12-23-2004, 04:45 PM

Nice article. We've watched Choker go from 0-60 in this business from this board. Congrats Choker. Continued success to ya man!

Steen2 · 12-23-2004, 04:47 PM

nice artice, glad it wasn't much drama

Napolean · 12-23-2004, 04:50 PM

great article

didnt know i had somethin in common with choker, both of us worked out of our cars before we went fulltime online

QuaWee · 12-23-2004, 04:53 PM

choker is a good guy, hopefully they will unban him

jimmyf · 12-23-2004, 04:56 PM

don't know Choker and never done business with him, but from what most on this and other boards say about him

Sosa · 12-23-2004, 04:56 PM

that was a good article. Nice information

tyler86ed · 12-23-2004, 05:03 PM

Good read.

keyboard warrior · 12-23-2004, 05:13 PM

Great Read!

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Fatalspeed · 12-23-2004, 05:29 PM

good article

Webmasters2005 · 12-23-2004, 05:29 PM

Excellent reading!

Choker looks to be a great guy!

GiantGnome · 12-23-2004, 05:34 PM

maybe choker should pay more attention to his help board.

Cavello · 12-23-2004, 05:44 PM

great article.

xlogger · 12-23-2004, 05:46 PM

damn what a great guy!

wdsguy · 12-23-2004, 05:54 PM

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sixxxthsense · 12-23-2004, 05:54 PM

fuck'm both!

chemicaleyes · 12-23-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalai lama

Interesting read.

yep

xclusive · 12-23-2004, 06:01 PM

Now I think that they should interview sleazy about the situation to be fair and balanced...

dunefield · 12-23-2004, 06:02 PM

good interview... shows anyone can make it...

SomeCreep · 12-23-2004, 06:06 PM

Good interview.

Too bad Choker is banned.

Houdini · 12-23-2004, 06:18 PM

That was a good article. I'll be looking forward to his paysites. I know one thing, he won't be fucking with the stats or the numbers. As honest as they come.

CybermedAndy · 12-23-2004, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio

Choker

SleazyDream

I gotta 2nd that

cayne · 12-23-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiggles

great article, choker is a great guy, should be unbanned.

2nd.
I always liked his posts. Esp. as he defended me, when Sleazy was calling me an idiot, although he was the idiot, because he had no clue, what he was talking about.

Platinum Doug · 12-23-2004, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclusive

Now I think that they should interview sleazy about the situation to be fair and balanced...

I'd love to have a bit of Sleazys time. He's built an empire himself and there's lots to learn from him as well. Another thing I need to do in Vegas . . . Damn! No rest for the wicked, I think is what they say??

SomeCreep · 12-23-2004, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Doug

I'd love to have a bit of Sleazys time. He's built an empire himself and there's lots to learn from him as well. Another thing I need to do in Vegas . . . Damn! No rest for the wicked, I think is what they say??

Sleazy is a successful webmaster, but "built an empire"? Thats going a little over board.

WarChild · 12-23-2004, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Sleazy is a successful webmaster, but "built an empire"? Thats going a little over board.

Have to agree. It's not like he's the Hun.

Platinum Doug · 12-23-2004, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Sleazy is a successful webmaster, but "built an empire"? Thats going a little over board.

Okay, maybe I am. The question is: what is an empire? Dictionary.com says an empire is . . .

"n 1: the domain ruled by an emperor or empress 2: a group of countries under a single authority; "the British empire" 3: a monarchy with an emperor as head of state 4: a group of diverse companies under common ownership and run as a single organization [syn: conglomerate] 5: an eating apple that somewhat resembles a McIntosh; used as both an eating and a cooking apple [syn: Empire]"

Okay, so apples are out! However, a domain (read internet) ruled by an emperor (read anyone who owns the damn thing) seems fitting. Now the question comes down to one of validity. To qualify in the same category Choker did for the article, he would have to be considered "successful". WTF does that mean? Well, I'm the first to admit that that judgement is really up to me - that's my bias. However . . .

To me, anyone that can fly themselves to conferences whenever they want, have a whack of fun toys at their disposal and have created a decent name for themselves using the tools we all have available to us . . . that's success. It might not be (insert name of rich and powerful ruler of the world here) success, but it's enough to be able to qualify as someone with an "empire" that we can all learn something from.

Thoughts??

WarChild · 12-23-2004, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Doug

Thoughts??

I'm not sure if the Internet was an empire that Sleazy Dream would be emperor. Sure, he's obviously done well for himself. He's doing better, I'm sure, than I am. But in the grand scheme of things? As far as TGP guys go, wouldn't The Hun be considered number 1?

Sleazy might have a big account at his bank, but he doesn't own the bank. You know what I mean?

MikeHawk · 12-23-2004, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Sleazy is a successful webmaster, but "built an empire"? Thats going a little over board.

EMPIRE...that is a big word.....lets define what that really means shall we?

Choker-- good traffic and has always been very good to us!

emthree · 12-23-2004, 08:35 PM

I wonder who was the one to do the banning?

That's pretty fucked up IMO, there was no reason for it. Remember when sexeducation was around? No one gave a shit how large or how many times the word PEDO was posted.
Sleazydream and the adult.com team owe a few people some apologies, before it tarnishes their name more. This shit gets around fast.

Huggles · 12-23-2004, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild

I'm not sure if the Internet was an empire that Sleazy Dream would be emperor. Sure, he's obviously done well for himself. He's doing better, I'm sure, than I am. But in the grand scheme of things? As far as TGP guys go, wouldn't The Hun be considered number 1?

Sleazy might have a big account at his bank, but he doesn't own the bank. You know what I mean?

Think about this, a guy like The Hun is what, 5-6 times bigger than Sleazy as far as traffic goes, and who knows how much more he makes. You mail the hun a submission and the hun will sometimes even write you back something to tell you what to improve to get listed. He takes his time to HELP you get listed on his massive site, for what?

Free.

Sleazy, on the other hand, doesn't have free spots. Imagine if he did though, if you emailed him and asked for advice, what would you get back?

"go away blacklisted looser"

Platinum Doug · 12-23-2004, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild

I'm not sure if the Internet was an empire that Sleazy Dream would be emperor. Sure, he's obviously done well for himself. As far as TGP guys go, wouldn't The Hun be considered number 1?

Sleazy might have a big account at his bank, but he doesn't own the bank. You know what I mean?

Haha! Fine point! Empire is a bit glorified, I'll give you that. But we are talking about "Internet" empires here. I'd say there are a few hundred "empires" -- domains (in the broader sense) that I would qualify as such. Does Sleazy manage his properties on a daily basis? Could he leave them alone for a while and still remain really profitable for a decent period of time? I don't know for sure. I'd love to have the chance to ask him that myself! My thoughts are yes, he would be okay if he let things sit for a while. I don't think you have to be number one to be a success. This is a game like horse shoes. Close counts! ;)

WarChild · 12-23-2004, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Doug

Haha! Fine point! Empire is a bit glorified, I'll give you that. But we are talking about "Internet" empires here. I'd say there are a few hundred "empires" -- domains (in the broader sense) that I would qualify as such. Does Sleazy manage his properties on a daily basis? Could he leave them alone for a while and still remain really profitable for a decent period of time? I don't know for sure. I'd love to have the chance to ask him that myself! My thoughts are yes, he would be okay if he let things sit for a while. I don't think you have to be number one to be a success. This is a game like horse shoes. Close counts! ;)

I understand what you're saying. I mean it's all speculation as to how well he's doing. I'm sure it's by all standards pretty good. That's the shame of it all. Sleazy obviously does know quite a bit about this business. He is successful and would probably be a great source of knowledge if he was so inclined. It's somewhat tarnished by the very elite attitude he attempts to pull off here. Think about Rick Latona, Lensman, Paolo, Quiet, The Hun, etc ... These are some pretty successful people. It's also pretty rare that you'd find one of them randomly calling people they know nothing about idiots. I would consider them to be "elite" because of what they've accomplished, how they've accomplished it and how they conduct themselves not because they've forced down my throat how great they are.

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