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After reading through Google's "Gmail Agreement" this morning (and finding some rather "interesting" statements included in it), I decided that I needed to dig a little deeper. While conducting my due diligence, I turned up this. I thought other Gmail account holders would like to consider the following:

"Google offers 1 gig of storage, which is more than 100 times the storage offered by Yahoo or Hotmail, or any Internet service providers that we know about. The powerful searching encourages account holders to never delete anything. It takes three clicks to put a message into the trash, and more effort to delete this message. It's much easier to "archive" the message, or just leave it in the inbox and let the powerful searching keep track of it. Google admits that even deleted messages will remain on their system, and may also be accessible internally at Google, for an indefinite period of time.

After 180 days in the U.S., email messages lose their status as a protected communication under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, and become just another database record. This means that a subpoena instead of a warrant is all that's needed to force Google to produce a copy. Other countries may even lack this basic protection, and Google's databases are distributed all over the world. Since the Patriot Act was passed, it's unclear whether this ECPA protection is worth much anymore in the U.S., or whether it even applies to email that originates from non-citizens in other countries.

Google's relationships with government officials in all of the dozens of countries where they operate are a mystery, because Google never makes any statements about this. But here's a clue: Google uses the term "governmental request" three times on their terms-of-use page for Gmail and once on their privacy page. Google's language means that all Gmail account holders have consented to allow Google to show any and all email in their Gmail accounts to any official from any government whatsoever, even when the request is informal or extralegal, at Google's sole discretion. Why should we send email to Gmail accounts under such draconian conditions?

The phrasing and qualifiers in the Gmail privacy policy are creepy enough, but nothing in any of Google's policies or public statements applies to those of us who don't have Gmail accounts. Google has not even formally stated in their privacy policy that they will not keep a list of keywords scanned from incoming email, and associate these with the incoming email address in their database. They've said that their advertisers won't get personally identifiable information from email, but that doesn't mean that Google won't keep this information for possible future use. Google has never been known to delete any of the data they've collected, since day one. For example, their cookie with the unique ID in it, which expires in 2038, has been tracking all of the search terms you've ever used while searching their main index.

If Google builds a database of keywords associated with email addresses, the potential for abuse is staggering. Google could grow a database that spits out the email addresses of those who used those keywords. How about words such as "box cutters" in the same email as "airline schedules"? Can you think of anyone who might be interested in obtaining a list of email addresses for that particular combination? Or how about "mp3" with "download"? Since the RIAA has sent subpoenas to Internet service providers and universities in an effort to identify copyright abusers, why should we expect Gmail to be off-limits?

Intelligence agencies would love to play with this information. Diagrams that show social networks of people who are inclined toward certain thoughts could be generated. This is one form of "data mining," which is very lucrative now for high-tech firms, such as Google, that contract with federal agencies. Email addresses tied to keywords would be perfect for this. The fact that Google offers so much storage turns Gmail into something that is uniquely dangerous and creepy. "

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http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com



This makes me wonder what the true intentions behind Gmail are? I know I for one will be a little more cautious about what kind of communications I conduct through my Gmail account.

Gottis

That's a long-ass post man, care to sum it up?

candyflip

I would replace Gmail in this statement with Internet.

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K fuck that I aiint using it

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CDSmith

I posted this 4 or 5 days ago.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=314831

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very interesting stuff.

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google's geting crazy

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That's just what the ignorant would say...Too fucking lazy to even read something important..

Jesus you fucks are stupid.

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Babaganoosh

If it scares you, by all means don't use it. It's that simple. You need to be much more concerned with using regular email. Most of us are more willing to discuss private matters via regular email but almost every major ISP has email monitoring systems in place. They can do a hell of a lot more than Google.

Read up on Carnivore, Altivore and of course Echelon

http://compnetworking.about.com/libr.../aa120400b.htm

If you have something private to discuss, the internet probably isn't the place to do it.

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the toolbar is also watching your every move

Trixie Racer

For anyone who wants an anonymous email account with lots of storage, Yahoo offers more. My Yahoo account has 2 gigs of storage..

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