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jayeff 06-21-2004 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by sacX
and security premium in the price of crude.
Another complete red herring: although crude prices have risen recently, they are still only at levels which account for a very small part of the huge increases at the pumps.

Rocketing pump prices are a consquence of the fact that there hasn't been a new refinery built in the US in the last 20 years, thus they run almost constantly at close to 100% capacity. Any increase in demand - and demand is still increasing, despite high prices - is met from outside the US. And costs more.

And it isn't going to get better so long as americans love their high-horsepower gas guzzlers. Just recently, the chairman of Valero (one of the big refiners) commented this is the best environment he's ever seen for refining profits.

sacX 06-21-2004 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by jayeff
Another complete red herring: although crude prices have risen recently, they are still only at levels which account for a very small part of the huge increases at the pumps.

Rocketing pump prices are a consquence of the fact that there hasn't been a new refinery built in the US in the last 20 years, thus they run almost constantly at close to 100% capacity. Any increase in demand - and demand is still increasing, despite high prices - is met from outside the US. And costs more.

And it isn't going to get better so long as americans love their high-horsepower gas guzzlers. Just recently, the chairman of Valero (one of the big refiners) commented this is the best environment he's ever seen for refining profits.

uh complete red herring? lol.

Guess what gas prices haven't just increased in the US, crude prices have a lot to do with it.

directfiesta 06-21-2004 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by Shok
yeah I'm glad we did it for the oil, or else we might end up paying 2 bucks a gallon.............please
LOL... but that is because you have an idiot at the helm .... otherwise, you would have control of the 2nd largest oil reserve in the world... even that he managed to fuck up!

:1orglaugh

neverlearn 06-21-2004 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
rule number 3155:

if you don't want to get killed... don't go places where people are getting killed.

ummm...yup! thats its right there
I feel absolutley horrible for that Koren guy.

V_RocKs 06-21-2004 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by chemicaleyes
You think America has the right to invade any country it feels like?
People like you are what makes America/Americans look bad in the public view. Congrats, give yourself a pat on the back.. You are an Idiot.

England took over Hong Kong, India, South Africa (and most of the rest), East coast of America, various island nations, etc. Spain(parts of Canada), France (took Canada), Portugual, and many more nations had similar exploits. America has Puerto Rico, the Phillapines, made Hawaiian Islands into a state of America.

But what? Because it is 2004 you can't take a country over? Well, we DID NOT TAKE A COUNTRY OVER. We fucking liberated them when they ASKED us to do it because he was killing his own people! He was beating and torturing them in that fucking prison for over 28 years before we got there!

Don't tell me Americans suck! Why doesn't the rest of the world grow some fucking balls? Why do we always have to save you fuck tards? Remember WWI shit head? How about WWII? Vietnam? Korea? Ringing any bells? Desert Storm? No? Fine then... Live in a bubble idiots, but don't come asking me for my sons when your bubble is burst by a tyrant!

V_RocKs 06-21-2004 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by Volantt
Sums it up in one rule!
Exactly. Why I do feel for these people and I feel mostly for the families they leave fatherless behind them, they had absolutely no reason to be there other than greed. I have a friend in the area and his only reason being there is that they are paying him an extra $100,000 a year to be there. He has been there for over 6 years and wants to stay another 4 more. If he gets killed while there it will suck but then it isn't like $600,000 stashed away isn't $600,000 stashed away. It is more than most people had that died in the world trade center.

Babagirls 06-21-2004 10:51 AM

i started a thread like this yesterday

sacX 06-21-2004 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
England took over Hong Kong, India, South Africa (and most of the rest), East coast of America, various island nations, etc. Spain(parts of Canada), France (took Canada), Portugual, and many more nations had similar exploits. America has Puerto Rico, the Phillapines, made Hawaiian Islands into a state of America.

But what? Because it is 2004 you can't take a country over? Well, we DID NOT TAKE A COUNTRY OVER. We fucking liberated them when they ASKED us to do it because he was killing his own people! He was beating and torturing them in that fucking prison for over 28 years before we got there!

Don't tell me Americans suck! Why doesn't the rest of the world grow some fucking balls? Why do we always have to save you fuck tards? Remember WWI shit head? How about WWII? Vietnam? Korea? Ringing any bells? Desert Storm? No? Fine then... Live in a bubble idiots, but don't come asking me for my sons when your bubble is burst by a tyrant!

seriously you could do with a little perspective.

V_RocKs 06-21-2004 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Guess what, tard?

I'm not in America.

:1orglaugh

If you are not in America or Iraq then butt out.

V_RocKs 06-21-2004 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by sacX
seriously you could do with a little perspective.
That is pretty funny. If you are from Germany, that is really pretty fucking hilarious. lol. I need perspective. Haha... oh man.

sacX 06-21-2004 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
That is pretty funny. If you are from Germany, that is really pretty fucking hilarious. lol. I need perspective. Haha... oh man.
I am from New Zealand, I live in Germany. Even if I was German, what's your point?

You seem to think the United States is this pure angelic world philanthropist, that's pretty naive.

Shok 06-21-2004 10:58 AM

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chemicaleyes 06-21-2004 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
England took over Hong Kong, India, South Africa (and most of the rest), East coast of America, various island nations, etc. Spain(parts of Canada), France (took Canada), Portugual, and many more nations had similar exploits. America has Puerto Rico, the Phillapines, made Hawaiian Islands into a state of America.

But what? Because it is 2004 you can't take a country over? Well, we DID NOT TAKE A COUNTRY OVER. We fucking liberated them when they ASKED us to do it because he was killing his own people! He was beating and torturing them in that fucking prison for over 28 years before we got there!

Don't tell me Americans suck! Why doesn't the rest of the world grow some fucking balls? Why do we always have to save you fuck tards? Remember WWI shit head? How about WWII? Vietnam? Korea? Ringing any bells? Desert Storm? No? Fine then... Live in a bubble idiots, but don't come asking me for my sons when your bubble is burst by a tyrant!

Good god you are a tard, I'm not going to spend too much time on you.

My comments here:

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Originally posted by chemicaleyes
You think America has the right to invade any country it feels like?
People like you are what makes America/Americans look bad in the public view. Congrats, give yourself a pat on the back.. You are an Idiot.

Were aimed at your stupid post here:

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
NP, if you don't like invading other peoples countries, you have no business being in America dipshits.
Never said England or any other country had a perfect history.
Never said Americans suck. Don't put words in my mouth.
Why don't you open your eyes, most of the world has more balls than you personally do.
Don't even start about how you think America single handedly saved the world. In any wartime situation.

I'm out of this thread now. :glugglug

chemicaleyes 06-21-2004 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by sacX
seriously you could do with a little perspective.
:thumbsup

jayeff 06-21-2004 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by sacX
Guess what gas prices haven't just increased in the US, crude prices have a lot to do with it.
Instead of basing your opinions on the pap fed to you by Fox and the rest, go read Forbes, Motley Fool or the Wall Street Journal.

Pleasurepays 06-21-2004 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
If bush is leading by 10 points there must be a shitload of stupid americans ...
a convienent explanation for an idiot.

jaffa1 06-21-2004 12:59 PM

americans must behead some al qaida militants in the same way

Cassie 06-21-2004 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
If you want to start on who did what for who, the states loose all the way ...

All the coup-detat and weapons given to other countries (such as afganistan ... bin laden himself ...)

So just dont start on this one :)

no one is saying we did not do our part. however, rather then running from a problem we helped create (we meaning the american govt), we faced the problem regardless of the reasoning or outcome.

name one war that france has been involved in that they havent ended up running the other way; hence america stepping in to cover france's ass. why is it that france was adamently against this war rather then taking down a problem they had their hands in?

don't give me the french economy is taking a hit. just as others are saying that america and it's people are getting what is deserved, france is now reaping what it sowed. it's nice to talk the talk but another thing to walk the walk and for as far back as i can remember (vietnam), i have never seen the french govt stand up to anything of importance. what i have see and read is the fact that they always needed help and always wanted a piece of the pie. things that make you go hmmm.

please dont get into this with me :)

ColBigBalls 06-21-2004 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
If you are not in America or Iraq then butt out.
Why? because what George W Hitler does dosent have any effect on the rest of the world?:warning

bad_girl 06-21-2004 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
So get a burka and live in their fucking country. I may not like abuse in a prison but then I don't commit crimes. If I did then I'd expect abuse since I'd be housed with a bunch of people who like to commit crime.

To all of the self hating Americans out there, GO TO CANADA! There are plenty of Mexicans who would love to come here and work like the rest of us are doing. Get off of your qualudes and get into reality. We went there to fight a war. We get our asses tortured everytime we help someone else out. We get killed helping these fuckers. If they don't like it fine. But then don't come asking for us to liberate you again in 10 years when you set Saddam free and he fucks you over again.

I do live in Canada.

The reality is when you invade a country and try to liberate them - then capture sometimes innocent people and PUBLICLY humiliate them, there will be backlash. People in that country are suffering, they are trying to rebuild a government and right now.. they have nothing, and no means of support. Who do you trust? Your captors? Your former leaders? They are one angry country - that anger needs to get channelled somehwere.



BG

bad_girl 06-21-2004 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by fris
the americans are only getting 1 year in jail. they should have there nuts and pussys torn off. 1 year = nothing. for what they did. so its just payback now. they are just having a tournament of heads. they arent going to stop.
I totally agree.

BG

bad_girl 06-21-2004 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by angelsofporn
You are a fucking idiot...damn...you are such a fool. You have to be like 18 years old to say something like that and actually believe it. We should send you over there to play with the iraqis for a week...stupid whore
Wow clearly I am not the immature one.
My opinions are my beliefs, to each their own.


Btw,

Lick my ass, cockwhore!

BG

sacX 06-21-2004 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by jayeff
Instead of basing your opinions on the pap fed to you by Fox and the rest, go read Forbes, Motley Fool or the Wall Street Journal.
wtf?

To suggest that crude prices is a total red herring with respect to pump prices is ridiculous. Maybe in the US you have refining issues, but the whole world does not.

Btw, the Motely Fool is for finanical newbs. I prefer The Economist, and the Financial Times..

Fox News? you fucking idiot.

Scootermuze 06-21-2004 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by invertiga
i recon CSI could find em, not them miami dorks tho :/
And they could do it in an hour...


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