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gornyhuy 06-19-2004 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
This thread made me want to check my stats. If you are a sponsor you can also check yours.

Here's how:

If you log into your webmaster admin, go to the "Transactions" tab, select "form hits". This will give you a percentage of those that tried to process -vs- those that were approved.

HERE ARE MY STATS FOR LAST WEEK, BROKEN DOWN BY DAY AND THEN WITH THE AVERAGE FOR THE ENTIRE WEEK (these stats are for all of my sites combined):

June 13th: 40.00% approved
June 14th: 57.14% approved
June 15th: 71.43% approved
June 16th: 66.67% approved
June 17th: 100% approved (Damn!)
June 18th: 69.23% approved
June 19th: 66.67% approved (so far)


OVERALL AVERAGE FOR THE LAST WEEK: 69.57% approved
(which means that 30.43% of those that try are denied)

I have to admit, this is disappointing.

But ONE NOTE SHOULD BE MADE: I did not investigate the REASONS for the denials. Maybe there are just a lot of people trying to fraudulently join.


Disclaimer: I posted these numbers because no one talks real numbers in these threads. It was time. I have to tell you, I am VERY happy with CCBill overall and truly believe they're the best processor in the business.

If other processors make this report available, please post the REAL numbers you've experienced.

Thanks for the real numbers man, much appreciated!
:glugglug

fatbaby 06-19-2004 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI
yep but your setup fee is pretty steep for a site that just starts
Our setup fee is waived for any existing webmaster program! ;-)

fatbaby 06-19-2004 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Interesting. For sites like mine, how would you assure affiliates are paid? Do you have a way to import all my ccbill affiliates?
We can track affiliate sales.... how, depends on how your program works....

If you are using CCbill's services for affiliate tracking, its a bit trickier, but it can be done.

Drop me a line, and I can explain what would have to be done! ;-)

GotGauge 06-19-2004 01:29 PM

I have also at times had my CC declined by CCBILL.
Then the next day it will work...
But, I also have had the same thing happen at a store, declined for no reason, I think sometimes they can not reach the bank or something...

Here are the reasons listed by CCBILL for the Year so far...
for TNACASH


http://www.tnacash.com/ccbilldecline.jpg

corvette 06-19-2004 02:28 PM

I will stand 100% behind our scrubbing methods and techniques.

There are reasons why credit cards get declined, which I am not even going to start getting into?the truth is that the vast majority of credit card declines originate from the card issuing bank, not the CCBill scrubbing.

We will be happy to research and respond to every decline inquiry, if you are getting declined and are curious to find the reason; send the date of the decline, your name, address, and email address and expect a response from us.

cc [email protected] on the email please

DatingGold 06-19-2004 02:33 PM

I have nothing against ccbill. I am just posting my experience.

I was trying to do a signup on a ccbill site and I tried 5 of my credit cards. None of which I have ever done a chargeback on. I have also never had a problem using the card(s) with other processors.

I was pissed cause I couldn't deposit funds into an account to advertise and the only payment they took was ccbill.

:2 cents:

rowan 06-19-2004 07:51 PM

Donovan, I saw your stats posted on another board (uncredited) so I jokingly said that your 100% day was probably from a couple of sales. I know from your program that it's highly unlikely... so I want to know how 100% of attempted transactions within 24 hours can succeed? It sounds too good to be true!

Kevin2 06-19-2004 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
This thread made me want to check my stats. If you are a sponsor you can also check yours.

Here's how:

If you log into your webmaster admin, go to the "Transactions" tab, select "form hits". This will give you a percentage of those that tried to process -vs- those that were approved.

HERE ARE MY STATS FOR LAST WEEK, BROKEN DOWN BY DAY AND THEN WITH THE AVERAGE FOR THE ENTIRE WEEK (these stats are for all of my sites combined):

June 13th: 40.00% approved
June 14th: 57.14% approved
June 15th: 71.43% approved
June 16th: 66.67% approved
June 17th: 100% approved (Damn!)
June 18th: 69.23% approved
June 19th: 66.67% approved (so far)


OVERALL AVERAGE FOR THE LAST WEEK: 69.57% approved
(which means that 30.43% of those that try are denied)

I have to admit, this is disappointing.

But ONE NOTE SHOULD BE MADE: I did not investigate the REASONS for the denials. Maybe there are just a lot of people trying to fraudulently join.


Disclaimer: I posted these numbers because no one talks real numbers in these threads. It was time. I have to tell you, I am VERY happy with CCBill overall and truly believe they're the best processor in the business.

If other processors make this report available, please post the REAL numbers you've experienced.

I just checked mine from the 1st June - 18th June and it is at 91.30% approved so CCbill seems to be working fine for me.

Sama 06-19-2004 08:47 PM

Mine seem to be all over the board.


13 Jun 2004 85.71%
14 Jun 2004 80.00%
15 Jun 2004 0.00% Haven't had a 0 "new" sign up day in over 8 months until this day.
16 Jun 2004 37.50%
17 Jun 2004 25.00%
18 Jun 2004 33.33%
19 Jun 2004 100.00% so far today

OVER ALL 58.97%

SleazyDream 06-19-2004 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
I always sign up for porn and never had ccbill decline me
same here

SomeCreep 06-19-2004 09:03 PM

Nice seeing different people's stats in here for % of CCBill transactions approved. Does anyone have any similar stats for other processors like Paycom or IBill to compare?

Kevin2 06-19-2004 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatbaby
Our setup fee is waived for any existing webmaster program! ;-)
Ok I am going to check your site :thumbsup

Drake 06-19-2004 09:43 PM

One of the ways scrubbing is done is by bank code. So even if your card is perfectly good, your cc may belong to a bank code that has had a bad history with a particular processor from fraudelant users using that bank code. Unfortunately the honest people with the same bank code may get rejected, not because of you personally, but because of your 'unwitting' affiliation of your bank code.

That said, I haven't had a problem joining a ccbill site thus far
:)

fatbaby 06-19-2004 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kevin2
Ok I am going to check your site :thumbsup

Look forward to hearing from you.. contact info is in my sig... ;-)

Babagirls 06-19-2004 09:53 PM

hmmm.......alot of range in stats with CC.......interesting.

Webby 06-19-2004 11:19 PM

Mmmm... the day iBill, which only appears on about 30% of our sites, does more than CCBill is a clue something is wrong :uhoh


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