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lil2rich4u2 06-19-2004 12:09 PM

WHAT THE FUCK ?!?

genomega 06-19-2004 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
a childish argument point.

porn has a way of being filtered away from a child, parental controls, not allowing them online, cable parental controls etc...

blowing your fucking MARLBORO in the face of your 2 year old while Dad surfs online sipping a beer and smoking a cig, and mom is washing dishes and exhaling a Newport. there is a difference

The difference being people like you could care less until they come after you.
As for the stats you quote in other posts they are just numbers they pull out of thin air.
The WHO did a 20 year study in 30 countries that proves all this pc hysteria is just bunk.

:glugglug

KRL 06-19-2004 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
KRL, it actually goes much deeper than anyone here is really mentioning, living here I know.

one part about smokin in cars is the siginificant amount of damage being done by smokers to the general opublic by throwing their cigarette butts out of their car windows.

Have you even bothered to read about all the fires they are causing???

Homes and neighborhoods are going up in flames because people cannot follow ONE RULE: DO NOT THROW YOUR CIGARETTE BUTTS OUT WINDOW.

Too many people have broken this law and their is NO WAY to enforce it.

So, smokers have brought this upon themselves. This is NOT ABOUT RIGHTS< this is about smokers abusing nature and killing people by burning neighborhoods by simply throwing cig butts out window.

think about it for a minute and youll see what i mean

not allowing people to smoke around kids is simply the right thing to do


Good point Fletch. I nearly got into a fight with an idiot once down here who was smoking at a gas station while filling his tank right next to me and I ran up to him and said are you fucking nuts smoking while filling up can't you read the fucking sign and know how dangerous that is.

Then the dumb fuck says oh sorry I forgot and just flicked his cig out of his fingers and it landed on a spot where a small amount gas had spilled on the ground which instantly lit up. Luckily an attendent had seen this and ran over quickly and dumped some chem stuff to put it out.

Fucking idiots that smoke at gas stations. :BangBang:

KRL 06-19-2004 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by genomega
Would you have a problem banning porn in homes with children?

:glugglug

I think you'd have to ban 90% of the homes in America to make that happen.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You can't compare porn to smoking anyway.

Fletch XXX 06-19-2004 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Good point Fletch. I nearly got into a fight with an idiot once down here who was smoking at a gas station while filling his tank right next to me and I ran up to him and said are you fucking nuts smoking while filling up can't you read the fucking sign and know how dangerous that is.

Then the dumb fuck says oh sorry I forgot and just flicked his cig out of his fingers and it landed on a spot where a small amount gas had spilled on the ground which instantly lit up. Luckily an attendent had seen this and ran over quickly and dumped some chem stuff to put it out.

Fucking idiots that smoke at gas stations. :BangBang:

i see it here too.

BTW: this line "Have you even bothered to read about all the fires they are causing???"

even was supposed to be "ever"

:winkwink:

KRL 06-19-2004 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
i see it here too.

BTW: this line "Have you even bothered to read about all the fires they are causing???"

even was supposed to be "ever"

:winkwink:

I have a friend that owns a fleet of helicopters he day leases to the Forestry Service whenever fires break out and they need extra copters to bring men in.

He's making a lot of money with it so I imagine the fires out west happen even more than you see on the news.

TDF 06-19-2004 01:58 PM

im going to go blaze a fat blunt in my trunk...brb

SuckOnThis 06-19-2004 02:01 PM

I'm really getting tired of all this anti smoking bullshit. I know smoking is not good but I don't think its as bad as a lot of these do gooders want you to believe. 100 years ago 75% of the population smoked and yet cancer rates were 1 out of 100. Today 30% of the population smokes and the cancer rate is 1 out of 2! Meaning everyone in this country now has a 50% chance of developing cancer sometime in their life. How do you anti smoking people explain that?

cherrylula 06-19-2004 02:04 PM

Personally I can't stand sitting in traffic or at a red light next to someone smoking. I always have my window about half way, and the smog is bad enough.

But people really shouldn't smoke around kids, that's not good at all.

Jace 06-19-2004 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
I'm really getting tired of all this anti smoking bullshit. I know smoking is not good but I don't think its as bad as a lot of these do gooders want you to believe. 100 years ago 75% of the population smoked and yet cancer rates were 1 out of 100. Today 30% of the population smokes and the cancer rate is 1 out of 2! Meaning everyone in this country now has a 50% chance of developing cancer sometime in their life. How do you anti smoking people explain that?
Environmental Toxins

Most human research in cancer risk from exposure to toxins begins after the cancer is diagnosed. However, as chemicals and other toxins are increasingly saturating our environment, researchers are beginning to look at the effect of these environmental toxins, such as pesticides and PCBs, on an unborn child.

For instance, several human studies have found a link between fetal exposure to contaminants and cancer in children and young adults. Studies reviewed include occupational exposures of parents and brain cancers in children; pesticides, paints, paint thinners and solvents and leukemia; and cigarette smoke and childhood cancer.

An embryo and fetus develop at a much faster rate than adults. While this development occurs, cell division and growth is rapid. These rapid changes provide many opportunities for mistakes to occur. If a baby is exposed to several toxic compounds in utero, changes may occur that either directly cause cancer, or lengthen the period of sensitivity to carcinogens, therefore making the child more susceptible to cancer later in life.

Polio Vaccines

The polio vaccine seems ever more linked to cancers, especially in children. The evidence seems quite clear yet most continue to go down the path of blindly trusting the traditional paradigm to ?save? them from disease through the use of vaccinations.

This should outrage nearly anyone that reads this. We trusted these experts to provide us with protection from polio and instead they planted the seeds of a deadly cancer that would kill over 20,000 a year in the United States.

This is particularly troublesome as polio can be prevented in most people simply by eliminating sugar from their diet.

If you were one of those people who received the vaccine you can do something positive to enhance your immune system. Increasing your amount of omega-3 fats and decreasing the omega-6 fats will be a potent step toward suppressing these types of cancers. Consuming high-quality fish oil or cod liver oil is an excellent way to obtain the outstanding health benefits of omega-3.

Inadequate Prenatal Nutrition

What a woman eats while pregnant can have a profound effect on the future health of her child. Researchers have discovered that a mother?s diet can even alter her child?s gene functions without changing the DNA sequence, which plays a large role in the child?s susceptibility to diseases like cancer, stroke, diabetes, schizophrenia and others.

I am convinced that the single most important dietary influence for prenatal nutrition is adequate omega-3 fats. As I mentioned above, the ideal way to obtain them is through fish oil or cod liver oil. Optimizing your omega-3 fats will virtually guarantee that the baby is full term as well.

Pressure-Treated Wooden Playground Equipment

Some 90 percent of all outdoor wooden structures in the United States are made with pressure-treated wood. The preservative used to treat the wood contains arsenic--a known human carcinogen--that rubs off when the wood is touched.

Children tend to put their hands in their mouth about 16 times an hour while playing, and those who have arsenic on their hands are at an increased risk of developing lung and bladder cancer.

Some woods like redwood and cedar do not require this arsenic-containing preservative and are therefore not a concern. Plastic and metal equipment should pose no risk.

Electricity Power Lines

Children who live near electricity power lines are at an increased risk of developing leukemia. One theory to why this occurs is that the high voltage lines emit charged particles called ions, which may then be inhaled.

CT Scans

CT scans are high in potentially dangerous radiation, and pose a significant threat to children. CT scans, and traditional X-rays, have been associated with cancer and heart disease. I recommend you avoid CT scans unless your or your child's life depends upon it. MRIs are typically safer than CT scans.

mardigras 06-19-2004 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
as long as the windows are down and the kids aren't getting hit with the smoke, it can be very irritating on the throat
Oh great, every time the smoker takes a drag the open window can give the poor kid in the back an ash torpedo to the eye:thumbsup



:glugglug

mardigras 06-19-2004 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by genomega

The WHO did a 20 year study in 30 countries that proves all this pc hysteria is just bunk.

The Kids are Alright?:glugglug

(semi-obscure musical reference showing my age:1orglaugh)

mardigras 06-19-2004 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli
im going to go blaze a fat blunt in my trunk...brb
Just don't throw it out the window:winkwink:

slavdogg 06-19-2004 02:41 PM

as a smoker, i hate smoking insides
i hate going to vegas or Nevada and walking through a cloud of smoke

so i dont see a problem with banning smoking when there are kids in the car.

cjnet 06-19-2004 02:43 PM

finally my homie always burns one when he gets in a car and kills my lungs. bastard

BluMedia 06-19-2004 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
KRL, it actually goes much deeper than anyone here is really mentioning, living here I know.

one part about smokin in cars is the siginificant amount of damage being done by smokers to the general opublic by throwing their cigarette butts out of their car windows.

Have you even bothered to read about all the fires they are causing???

Homes and neighborhoods are going up in flames because people cannot follow ONE RULE: DO NOT THROW YOUR CIGARETTE BUTTS OUT WINDOW.

Too many people have broken this law and their is NO WAY to enforce it.

So, smokers have brought this upon themselves. This is NOT ABOUT RIGHTS< this is about smokers abusing nature and killing people by burning neighborhoods by simply throwing cig butts out window.

think about it for a minute and youll see what i mean

not allowing people to smoke around kids is simply the right thing to do

I am going to have to agree with you. I see smokers all the time throw their butts out the window. It really pisses me off, it takes 15 years for the butts to decompose. Smokers just don't seem to fucking care and litter everywhere. There is alot alot of fires caused from this.

I also definetly think parents should not smoke around kids.

I think people can do whatever they want with their lives as long as it doesn't affect my health. I think though you should beable to smoke in your car but have very high fines for littering your butt and actually have police enforce it as much as seatbelts.

Mark

Fletch XXX 06-19-2004 03:12 PM

and so people know, there are ALREADY streets here in california, many I travel daily, that you are NOT ALLOWED TO SMOKE IN YOUR CAR.

forinstance, the roads going "over the Hollywood Hill"

the winding mountainous pass does not allow cigarette smoking on parts of it, and its a heavy fine.

This law above I guess is more aimed at kids, I knda went off topic I guess but smokers are already being told not to smoke on certain streets here for OBVIOUS reasons.

If they started a fire in the hollywood hills they could essentially kill MANY people and burn down some of the most expensive homes in california within hours.

the roads are small and sometimes one way, fire fighters wouldnt even be able to get there in time. it would be chaos and HUNDREDS if not thousands would die.

Firehorse 06-19-2004 11:24 PM

I don't smoke, but that is taking it too far. People have a right to smoke in their car!

Nader 06-19-2004 11:27 PM

hope not :feels-hot

SlickRick 06-19-2004 11:29 PM

That is some seriously fucked up shit. I was born and raised in SO CAL. Sure glad I got out.

I wouldnt be suprised it will passes if it is true. There are more non smokers then there are smokers now in SO CAL. and the smokers prob wont even go votel, its their own fualt if it does pass, again if that is true.

Firehorse 06-19-2004 11:35 PM

I haven't smoked for over 6 years, when I did I always used to extinguish my butts and put them in an ashtray if at home or in the car or a bin if I was walking. People that litter really really really piss me off! :feels-hot

Webby 06-19-2004 11:36 PM

There is a law on breathing Calif air soon - breath three times and your out.

{fusion} 06-19-2004 11:44 PM

land of free and you cant even have a cig in your car. that sucks

SlickRick 06-19-2004 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
There is a law on breathing Calif air soon - breath three times and your out.

I woudnt be suprised when the goverment start taxing people for breathing H2O.lol

69pornlinks 06-19-2004 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Just heard something about this on the news but didn't catch the whole piece.

Whoa, as much as I don't like cigarette smoke, that's really getting into a person's individual space and rights.

Thoughts?


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hlight=smoking

here's the thread i think the link to yahoo is dead. i think you mean they're trying to ban smoking in cars with children, i say bullshit, some people think it's cool

SlickRick 06-19-2004 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlickRick
I woudnt be suprised when the goverment start taxing people for breathing H2O.lol
Wow I must be tired. no need to corerect me we dont breathe water.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's for me

Peace out,
:)

twistyneck 06-20-2004 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
If they started a fire in the hollywood hills they could essentially kill MANY people and burn down some of the most expensive homes in california within hours.

the roads are small and sometimes one way, fire fighters wouldnt even be able to get there in time. it would be chaos and HUNDREDS if not thousands would die.

This would be a good thing. From time to time the herd must be thinned out a bit.

Serge Litehead 06-20-2004 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
So a question for the smokers on this thread then.

Are you ok with a ban on smoking in cars if there are children inside?

Or you have a problem with that also?

my counsiousness doesnt allow me to smoke in fornt of children period. i feel bad for the kids when their parents take them to smoking sections in resturants, and noone gives any shits about it in those places, most likely that's next on the ban list.
if adults smoke in houses where kids live, cars are no differnt except they're out in public.

on a contrary, i believe noone has any rights to tell you how to grow your own kids (that includes, what you do with them or in from of them) except your relatives and close friends, but i guess this country full of idiots and has to control even parenting?

Serge Litehead 06-20-2004 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuckOnThis
I'm really getting tired of all this anti smoking bullshit. I know smoking is not good but I don't think its as bad as a lot of these do gooders want you to believe. 100 years ago 75% of the population smoked and yet cancer rates were 1 out of 100. Today 30% of the population smokes and the cancer rate is 1 out of 2! Meaning everyone in this country now has a 50% chance of developing cancer sometime in their life. How do you anti smoking people explain that?
it could be that smokes were pure and natural 100 years ago, now a days smokes go through tons of chemicals before hand.

volante 06-20-2004 03:07 AM

I was once sideswiped by a driver at 70+mph because he dropped a lit cigarette in his lap and was more concerned with not burning his balls than watching where he was going...


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