80 for your bitch azz

Yeah because afgahnistan wealth far surpasses Iraq huh?

No, I don't think it was. But you still think Bush is the cause of terrorism that occured in the 1990s ;-)

They forget he nerve gased his own people and the biological weapons we found transporting through Kuwait...

Sorry folks...

Terrorism is nothing new...

The Romans even faced terrorism...

What ya bought into the whole "Terrorism" thing? :Laugh:Laugh


Its been around since the beginning its what having a good spy network is all about, unfortunatly our Spy's are to stupid to figure things out and let planes fly into buildings...
Um actually a good argument is that our leaders and intelligence community let 9/11 happen.

Fighting terrorists and terrorism is called "secret wars" where you kill folks planning shit out to destroy interests and halt em before the shit starts.

You people will believe anything...
This is pointless...

You are a funny guy Buff, maybe like you fucking president. They think they rule the world(you think you rule GFY) and can not stand or at least UNDERstand different opinions.

Of course what they did with the US guy, is TERRIBLE. Don't get me wrong. But the only reason why all this shit is happening, is because your president was on the hunt for oil...

And spit a guy in the face, come on, how old are you. Using that kinda methods is sooo lame. Adult and smart people use discussions to solve this kinda issues.

BTW I'm from europe as well. I can tell you which country, but I guess it makes no difference for you, since you only know USA and the REST of the world

Andre

exactly the Bush strategy...

what was that about secret prisons again??? Red Cross not informed???

No harm meant, the beheadings are awfull and totally disgusting but to be honest I bet those "secret" prisoners aren't treated much better :2 cents:

Wise DUTCH words :thumbsup

So a guy gets kidnapped and the kidnappers demand al Qaeda prisoners be released or they'll kill him and thats about oil? How is capturing al Qaeda members about oil?

When people have no argument left the always blame it on the oil silly of you to forget.

from what i saw Battuss is totally right in what he says

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I hate them as much as i hate the Americans invading a country where they shouldnt be.

These people arent civilized, we know that and this is their way of doing war. We bomb them high tech, they fight with knives. Dont like it? Then dont fucking invade a country where you have no business.

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When Bush would not have started his oil hunt in Iraq, but invested more money on good things, less problems would have start...

I mean first afganistan, looking for Osama(still not found) and then Iraq. What is next? You can not just invade a country. That simply gives you trouble...

WHat I'm trying to say is, when Bush would not have played with his army toys that much, less ppl would hate the USA, and less ppl would have kidnapped US ppl.

Andre

Brainwashed?

You honestly think people if we do nothing the hate will stop? People can't really be this Naive can they?

AQ is fighting back, so big bad Bush has to eliminate them before they kill so many western people that nobody will support Bush.

AQ beheading westerns is a great example of how out of control they are... they're relying on such barbaric manners now that the are losing grip.

Please understand I'm not defending beheadings or AQ, just giving my opinion on the matter.

Um no that is classic liberal argument it's the oil...They forget that there the same ones protecting the innocent sea lions from using our own natrual resources. Also in times of war you also use every tatical advantage or resource that becomes available to you.

Bush has to kill AQ members because they fly planes into skyscapers.

In time of war. Funny Bush mentioned he was there to FRee Iraq, and he would not call it a war...
Maybe he said something different on US television.

Second, my point is, how many US ppl were kidnapped and killed BEFORE Bush with all his wars. And write down all US ppl who Died, while Bush is president... You don't notice anything?

Andre

Too late.

suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

first of all why do you throw it on a politcal side right away? "classic liberal"... maybe you can get it in your head that some people here are non-US and may not be on nay political side like that???

Please tell me with a straight face Bush couldn't benefit from the oil in Iraq... :1orglaugh prices go up everyday and the industry is booming and always in need and U are so naive to think he has not interest in it???

And with how he does it, you don't generate MORE hate? You really think you can kill all "bad" people? Israel is trying that for years...Not with much luck as you know...

Maybe better to invest the time in protection on airports, and do good things for those countries. That way people will look different to you. People like help, they don't like guns.

Example, in Iraq, ppl were happy first, now it turned into HATE again...Guess why?

Andre

that's only what triggered it to a worldwide event, but that's not the start of the conflict

of fuck, we got a live one here ...:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

No of course your all right when Clinton was in office there where not terror camp set up for training to kill american's. You think they care who was in office when flying planes into buildings? Get real people. Go ahead you can all blame it on the oil if it makes you sleep better at night.

they don't care... we're just saying Bush is making it worse day by day, of course the same shit was coming when Clinton was there but he would've handled it better (probably, we can never tell for sure).

If any of this shit would still keep me from sleeping at night I think I wouldn't catch a second of sleep in my life, sorry but I'm getting used to this shit... we're getting senseless against cruel stuff coz there is sooo much of it.

I had to stop at this post, yes Elli I have sooooo much laundry to do will you come help? Thanks for asking.


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Least we see eye to eye on that...All besides Clinton handling it better but like you said we could argue that till our faces of blue and it is all what if's.

My sig is going to be worth a fortune this month.

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of course it is, you could never be sure but IMO there's no way anyone could handle it worse than Bush boy... sorry man I love american people but that president belongs at McD's...

in the kids corner that is :winkwink:

I just don't see that I wouldn't say he is a great president but alot better then the card people deal him. I don't think Clinton did shit either. Just my two cents

where is Bin Laden? you know, the guy who caused 9/11.

Oh, he's somewhere planning more terrorist acts while we committ more troops to Iraq.

sweet.

The fact is, there will always be "some" terrorism, you cant erase it, but by going into Iraq, Bush is causing more of it to happen.


its like a GFY thread you're getting bashed in, its always better to not reply - replying pours gasoline on the fire.

very wise words indeed

Funny you start a thread which is pretty serious, and good to discuss about, and you care over your SIG price...

Sad

Andre

what did he do to contribute to the world's situation? And I mean positively contribute?

Agreed. It started in the 600s.

OH NO!

Battus has made Buff's shit list!

How will he ever cope?!

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Fucking hilarious.

Buff's a fucking idiot.

Surely you've worked that out already?

What would you have done, as president of the US, after 9-11? Invite terrorists for coffee and ask them what their complaints are?

Joe is crybaby who whines about how mean Americans are. What a pussy.