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Old 06-18-2004, 10:37 AM   #51
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Use nslookup versus ping. Nslookup tells you all the IPs. Galleryspots is on 3 different IP's.

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Old 06-18-2004, 10:38 AM   #52
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I fail to see how that violates any rules if he wasn't doing anything else to rig his PR.
He wasn't rigging his PR, but when he discovered what PR was and that he had an 8, he decided to sell it.
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Old 06-18-2004, 10:40 AM   #53
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odd.. seems the rules you need to play by have changed of late.
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Old 06-18-2004, 10:42 AM   #54
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google is going a bit far banning sites.
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Old 06-18-2004, 10:43 AM   #55
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He wasn't rigging his PR, but when he discovered what PR was and that he had an 8, he decided to sell it.
so thats why he was banned?
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Old 06-18-2004, 10:45 AM   #56
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so thats why he was banned?
I can only assume. I mean they probably keep tabs on sites with PR that ridiculously high. He had the #1 listing for "web site traffic" too. Someone at google has *probably* at least visited it once or twice.
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Old 06-18-2004, 01:37 PM   #58
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1st time i see such penalization
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Old 06-18-2004, 01:39 PM   #59
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wow thats sucks never heard theyre doin whole c-class bans as well... must be true they just hate porn
They BETTER not be doing c-class IP bans.

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wow very interesting. thats alot of banned domains.
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Old 06-18-2004, 02:47 PM   #63
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OMG, the sky is falling. Google has been banning my ips for months, nothing new here. They have been banning a lot of sites that have nothing to do with me. Look around you they are everywhere. Google does not penalise sites that are linked to from a banned site. As someone else stated if that were the case, then every page on the web would be banned. Google traffic was at best 1%, yahoo traffic has not only replaced it, but is triple per day what google sent on it's best day. I have never, and never will depend on SE traffic for any of my sites. What is good today is gone tomorrow.

I am not saying that I don't care, but I am not going to loose any sleep over every bump in my life. Traffic sales are at a all time high, every affiliate is getting paid on time as always. Life is good. Google banned my ips because I make hundreds of sites that contain the same terms. They see this as spam. There's no big conspiracy going on here. I am not going to model my business after anyones rules. Never.
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Old 06-18-2004, 02:54 PM   #64
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OMG, the sky is falling. Google has been banning my ips for months, nothing new here. They have been banning a lot of sites that have nothing to do with me. Look around you they are everywhere. Google does not penalise sites that are linked to from a banned site. As someone else stated if that were the case, then every page on the web would be banned. Google traffic was at best 1%, yahoo traffic has not only replaced it, but is triple per day what google sent on it's best day. I have never, and never will depend on SE traffic for any of my sites. What is good today is gone tomorrow.

I am not saying that I don't care, but I am not going to loose any sleep over every bump in my life. Traffic sales are at a all time high, every affiliate is getting paid on time as always. Life is good. Google banned my ips because I make hundreds of sites that contain the same terms. They see this as spam. There's no big conspiracy going on here. I am not going to model my business after anyones rules. Never.
Chicadee, you sound like Choker, i hope you dont look like him... ;)
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Chicadee, you sound like Choker, i hope you dont look like him... ;)
Ah fuck, I am using her computer. Mine got fried
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Chicadee, you sound like Choker, i hope you dont look like him... ;)

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Old 06-18-2004, 03:01 PM   #67
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Traffic sales are at a all time high, every affiliate is getting paid on time as always. Life is good.

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OMG, the sky is falling. Google has been banning my ips for months, nothing new here. They have been banning a lot of sites that have nothing to do with me. Look around you they are everywhere. Google does not penalise sites that are linked to from a banned site. As someone else stated if that were the case, then every page on the web would be banned. Google traffic was at best 1%, yahoo traffic has not only replaced it, but is triple per day what google sent on it's best day. I have never, and never will depend on SE traffic for any of my sites. What is good today is gone tomorrow.

I am not saying that I don't care, but I am not going to loose any sleep over every bump in my life. Traffic sales are at a all time high, every affiliate is getting paid on time as always. Life is good. Google banned my ips because I make hundreds of sites that contain the same terms. They see this as spam. There's no big conspiracy going on here. I am not going to model my business after anyones rules. Never.
Right on, this is old news. I've watched choker sites I've traded with go up and down and drop to PR Hell. I THINK google does penalise you if you link to the sites. So decide if it's worth the hit on your PR for the traffic you get from choker. As stated in the quote, the man does not run his biz model on what google does.

Hard to knock anything that is producing so much traffic. I can't afford to ignore google, but they sure fuck with ya some times on keyword placement. Don't really see the sense in having so many sites that all look the same, but then again hard to argue with the $$$ choker is making. The traffic he sends produces and he doesn't have to worry about shaving and sponsors cheating...
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Google only will penalize you for bad sites you link to, you can't be penalized due to bad sites that link to you.

I am suprised everything got banned however, usually they would just get a decrease in PR.

Its time to re-register a whole batch of domains and start over again.
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I'm willing to bet that only 1/2 of 1% of choker's traffic comes directly from SE's if even that.

Getting linked from banned sites won't hurt you.
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I'm willing to bet that only 1/2 of 1% of choker's traffic comes directly from SE's if even that.

Getting linked from banned sites won't hurt you.
If you have a toplist - there's a link back unless you screw with your script
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Old 06-18-2004, 03:59 PM   #72
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wasen't he selling PR not too long ago? Wonder if this is why...
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I would bet that the pr8 selling might have hurt him. Once a porn site goes over pr6 I think google starts to look into it.

All and all, what he was doing was not that spammy and he certianly wasn't dominating any big terms.

I bet Chocker could get this unbanned. Though google are hard-asses about that shit.
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one of the perks of buying a hard link on the tgp was usually your pr went up a point
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I wonder if everyone gets their money back now?
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hehe thats really kinda asking a lot
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hehe thats really kinda asking a lot
well if it had happend at the beging of the month i would want my money back. I think it was 1 grand for the hard links per month but i could be mistaken on the price
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That's some funny shit. I don't know Choker to be a liar so I'm not agreeing with you but that is some funny shit.
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Not meaning to point out the obvious, but search engine traffic is arguably the highest quality source of traffic - so the 1% loss could potentially be 5-10% or more of all sales.

I haven't bought much Choker traffic in the past though so I wouldn't be able to make a fair controlled test.

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damn that really sux for choker
I wonder if he can email google and get that removed, I have seen that happen b4 I couldnt believe it
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OMG, the sky is falling. Google has been banning my ips for months, nothing new here. They have been banning a lot of sites that have nothing to do with me. Look around you they are everywhere. Google does not penalise sites that are linked to from a banned site. As someone else stated if that were the case, then every page on the web would be banned. Google traffic was at best 1%, yahoo traffic has not only replaced it, but is triple per day what google sent on it's best day. I have never, and never will depend on SE traffic for any of my sites. What is good today is gone tomorrow.

I am not saying that I don't care, but I am not going to loose any sleep over every bump in my life. Traffic sales are at a all time high, every affiliate is getting paid on time as always. Life is good. Google banned my ips because I make hundreds of sites that contain the same terms. They see this as spam. There's no big conspiracy going on here. I am not going to model my business after anyones rules. Never.
Nice answer. I like the way you run your biz man...
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I clicked one of his galleries and got a virus alert.

And this was in the URL

ms-its:C:\WINDOWS\Help\iexplore.chm::/iegetsrt.htm

And I assure you, there is NO spyware on my PC.

This is the gallery: http://www.1voicemailbox.net/bestadult/

And this is the trojan info: http://securityresponse.symantec.com...load.ject.html

Choker, someone's pulling a fast one on you.

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I clicked one of his galleries and got a virus alert.

And this was in the URL

ms-its:C:\WINDOWS\Help\iexplore.chm::/iegetsrt.htm

And I assure you, there is NO spyware on my PC.

This is the gallery: http://www.1voicemailbox.net/bestadult/

And this is the trojan info: http://securityresponse.symantec.com...load.ject.html

Choker, someone's pulling a fast one on you.



good catch. thanks for the heads up
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Hey choker is that offer still valid where you wanted 50 or more galleries and running it through your tgp's somehow with a sponsor linking code? I can't remember the details.

If so, let me know cause I have around 95 galleries ready.
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I clicked one of his galleries and got a virus alert.

And this was in the URL

ms-its:C:\WINDOWS\Help\iexplore.chm::/iegetsrt.htm

And I assure you, there is NO spyware on my PC.

This is the gallery: http://www.1voicemailbox.net/bestadult/

And this is the trojan info: http://securityresponse.symantec.com...load.ject.html

Choker, someone's pulling a fast one on you.
Thanks I knew something was odd about this site, but I had several people look at it and they could find nothing wrong. His traffic is stopped and he is history.
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Thanks I knew something was odd about this site, but I had several people look at it and they could find nothing wrong. His traffic is stopped and he is history.
Assume you're a new employee for choker. Or is this choker with a new name?
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Ouch that really fucking hurts. I am sorry to see that.
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Ita myth that you will get banned by google for linking to a banned site.Google will penalise you for linking into a bad neighbourhood but not to 1 banned site .
So if you are linking to all chokers domains you are in trouble if you dont remove them but linking to 1 of them wont.
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Ita myth that you will get banned by google for linking to a banned site.Google will penalise you for linking into a bad neighbourhood but not to 1 banned site .
So if you are linking to all chokers domains you are in trouble if you dont remove them but linking to 1 of them wont.

bad neighbourhood = bad site

it only takes 1
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Not true.
If you would like another bet I will bet you a $1000 that if I put a link to chokers chiken site from a pr 6 site of mine I will not get penalised.I will leave it there for a month and not suffer in the serps.
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If you would like another bet I will bet you a $1000 that if I put a link to chokers chiken site from a pr 6 site of mine I will not get penalised.I will leave it there for a month and not suffer in the serps.

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