70% of Republicans say a president should be guided by "faith"

[Mr.Fiction]

Asked if a President should be guided by his faith when making policy, 63 per cent Democrats say "no" while 70 per cent Republicans say "yes".

http://www.deepikaglobal.com/latestnews.asp?ncode=16866

Republicans are fucked up.

[emmanuelle]

I see they all agree with the seperation of church & state

[Jace]

no shit...wow

that reminds me of the whole "pope is infallible" thing....to think a dying 90 year old man doesn't make mistakes...LOL

[Jace]

Originally posted by emmanuelle
I see they all agree with the seperation of church & state

there is nothing anywhere in the constitution about seperation of church and state, this is a huge myth..

grab a copy of it, read it...the only thing you will find similar is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Thomas Jefferson however did send a letter in 1802 and it included this "I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." which is where we get the quote from

[12clicks]

Originally posted by JaceXXX

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Yet the uneducated, liberal, rabble would like to prohibit the President from the free exercise of his religion.

typical but still sad.

[Jace]

Originally posted by 12clicks
Yet the uneducated, liberal, rabble would like to prohibit the President from the free exercise of his religion.

typical but still sad.

i am a very liberal person, but I do agree with what you just said.....if I was president, and I was not allowed to use my religious (which are comparable to buddist) views while making decisions, then the world would not be a good place

while I don't agree with christianity, i do agree that our religious or spiritual views do make up who we are

[cherrylula]

Everyone who consults with and worships some dead guy on a cross surely gets my respect.

One Nation Under God hahaha

[theking]

Originally posted by JaceXXX
there is nothing anywhere in the constitution about seperation of church and state, this is a huge myth..

grab a copy of it, read it...the only thing you will find similar is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Thomas Jefferson however did send a letter in 1802 and it included this "I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." which is where we get the quote from

You win the "ring" for being correct.

[Tom_PMs]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Thats right for sure. In other words, no official religion or official endorsement of one faith OVER another as a matter of policy.

Yet some view a president or other high official to be pushing his/her religion on others when they use it in every speech, or put it on money, or carve it in marble over the supreme court building. Ya know, all those little mentions

I did find it extremely disturbing though when GW told Woodward (in the interview GW *wanted* to give mind you) that instead of asking his father for advice on Iraq, he asked a "higher father".

But it's not a religious war, oh no.. lol confusing

Isnt it interesting too that the words "under god" in the pledge of allegiance was *NOT* in the pledge originally. It was added in later by politicians. And now that a person wants it restored to its original form, people cry that you cant change it.. umm...

Anyway, I never talk politics or religion

[Jace]

Originally posted by Tom_PM

Isnt it interesting too that the words "under god" in the pledge of allegiance was *NOT* in the pledge originally. It was added in later by politicians. And now that a person wants it restored to its original form, people cry that you cant change it.. umm...

tjhat always amused me....did you hear about that dr. pepper can rumour a while back, religious people created drama by saying that pepsico removed under god or whatever....and it wasn't even true!!! hahahaha

we have just as many religious fanatics in this country as they do in iraq, they just have different tactics here...instead of killing people with action, they try and kill you with drama

[Fletch XXX]

i dont care about this freedom of religion crap.

get rid of all the crhsitians

like 12clicks says about muslims,..." only good muslim is dead muslim"

i feel the same about jesus loving folk.

they are all toweleheads to me and 12clicks!

[Tom_PMs]

LOL, no I never heard that dr. pepper thing... good lord.. lmao
Surprising? nope!

[Jace]

Originally posted by Tom_PM
LOL, no I never heard that dr. pepper thing... good lord.. lmao
Surprising? nope!

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/drpepper.asp

[Tom_PMs]

Yep I see, lol. Didnt doubt it, and it doesnt surprise me one bit.

It's probably against the religion to drink a sparkling bubbling beverage anyway

[dig420]

Originally posted by 12clicks
Yet the uneducated, liberal, rabble would like to prohibit the President from the free exercise of his religion.

typical but still sad.

The educated, enlightened liberals would like to avoid living in a theocracy and having to scrape our knees bowing to God to avoid going to jail.

You republicans should be living in Iran, that's the government you seem to favor. Religious, authoritarian and ignorant.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by dig420
The educated, enlightened liberals would like to avoid living in a theocracy and having to scrape our knees bowing to God to avoid going to jail.

the people who "feel" they are educated, enlightened, liberals aren't bright enough to see that no one wants that, we just want the common sense that comes with letting a man believe anything he wishes as long as its peaceful.

Originally posted by dig420
You republicans should be living in Iran, that's the government you seem to favor. Religious, authoritarian and ignorant.

the rants of a delusional liberal are neveer more shrill than when they are defending a core misconception of their dopey views.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
i dont care about this freedom of religion crap.

get rid of all the crhsitians

like 12clicks says about muslims,..." only good muslim is dead muslim"

i feel the same about jesus loving folk.

they are all toweleheads to me and 12clicks!

you wouldn't be the simple man you are if it was any other way.

[ADL Colin]

No, the Constitution does not specifically say that there should be "separation of Church and State" but a number of Supreme Court decisions have interpreted the "establishment of religion" clause to mean, for the most part, just that.

[dig420]

Originally posted by 12clicks
the people who "feel" they are educated, enlightened, liberals aren't bright enough to see that no one wants that, we just want the common sense that comes with letting a man believe anything he wishes as long as its peaceful.


the rants of a delusional liberal are neveer more shrill than when they are defending a core misconception of their dopey views.

is that right? Then what's up with all these 'faith based initiatives'? What's up with the Repubs trying to loosed the rules that prohibit churches from being actively involved in campaigning for a particular candidate?

If Bush thought he could squeeze a few more votes out of his base by burning witches, he'd have a pyre set up on the white house lawn the next day. You're not a brick wall morons bang their heads against Ronnie, your head IS a brick wall nothing can penetrate.

common sense tells you that religion mixing with govt. is NEVER NEVER good, but seeing as how conservatives are incapable of learning from history and past mistakes, and your entire self-image is derived from your status as a redneck republican, it's not surprising that you either don't understand that or pretend not to.

[dig420]

Originally posted by 12clicks
you wouldn't be the simple man you are if it was any other way.

simple and correct. A fundamentalist christian is no better than a jihadist muslim, they're cut from the same ignorant cloth.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by dig420


If Bush thought he could squeeze a few more votes out of his base by burning witches, he'd have a pyre set up on the white house lawn the next day. You're not a brick wall morons bang their heads against Ronnie, your head IS a brick wall nothing can penetrate.

instead of pointing out your inaccuracies, I'll simply repost your idiotic stantments for the group to laugh at once more.

[Honeyslut]

Originally posted by theking
You win the "ring" for being correct.

You mean he win's "my precious" !


(for all ya Lord of the Rings fans )

[12clicks]

Originally posted by dig420
simple and correct. A fundamentalist christian is no better than a jihadist muslim, they're cut from the same ignorant cloth.

No, diglet. One group is basically harmless (if misguided) while the other group has killed 10s of thousands of innocent people during our lifetime.

to the dopey liberal who's been misguided by his tin foil hat, the 2 might be the same but to intelligent people, they're not similar at all. but you go girl!

[cluck]

We need an atheist president.

[NiTe-HaWk]

We need an atheist president.

Where do bad folks go when they die? They don't go to heaven were the angels fly. They go to a lake of fire and fry. See em again till the 4th of July.

Sorry lol I was just listening to this song as I read this

[dig420]

Originally posted by 12clicks
No, diglet. One group is basically harmless (if misguided) while the other group has killed 10s of thousands of innocent people during our lifetime.

to the dopey liberal who's been misguided by his tin foil hat, the 2 might be the same but to intelligent people, they're not similar at all. but you go girl!

and christians have killed millions just slightly before your lifetime.

but history never repeats itself, does it Ronnie?

[Rich]

Originally posted by 12clicks
No, diglet. One group is basically harmless (if misguided) while the other group has killed 10s of thousands of innocent people during our lifetime.

Hey look, I almost agree with 12clicks. Although, I wouldn't say Muslim extremists are harmless, they did kill thousand of people on sept. 11.

You're right about Christian extremists killing 10s of thousands in our lifetime though, not to mention millions before we were born.

[tony286]

Which bible are they reading if they are guided by faith . If Bush was following the ways of Jesus :

He would not be fucking the poor in the ass
Going to war with a country that did nothing to us
lying at every turn.

He has no faith its a buzz word , polls said the sheep like to hear.


The best line about this was in the Woody Allen movie Hannah and her sisters : " If Jesus came back and heard all the things being done in his name. He would never be able to stop throwing up "

[12clicks]

Originally posted by dig420
and christians have killed millions just slightly before your lifetime.

really diglet?
got a link?

[dig420]

Originally posted by Rich
Hey look, I almost agree with 12clicks. Although, I wouldn't say Muslim extremists are harmless, they did kill thousand of people on sept. 11.

You're right about Christian extremists killing 10s of thousands in our lifetime though, not to mention millions before we were born.

the only reason christians are 'harmless' right now is because of the laws we've made protecting ourselves from them.

I think the repubs are right though. We should have a Biblical rule of law and a police govt. with the absolute right to spy, search and seize. Also, everyone will be required to bow and scrape before the flag while they sing hosannas to Jesus Christ the Savior every morning.

That'll keep the godless communist liberals down.

[dig420]

Originally posted by 12clicks
really diglet?
got a link?

it's called the FUCKING CRUSADES, the fucking INQUISITION for FUCK'S SAKE Ronnie!!

Does it hurt, not knowing anything?

[AsylumN]

70% of republicans are stupid

[dig420]

Originally posted by AsylumN
70% of republicans are stupid

that's a conservative estimate.

[Tom_PMs]

Dont forget overthrowing the Greeks and declaring any other worship illegal and seizing the statues and artworks for their museums.
oh and dont forget coming up from mexico and putting up crosses and forcing those crazy natives to kneel and pray, lol.

Theres a lot of fucked up things in the world man. Every faith shares in some shames of the past. It's "holier than thou" attitudes that are fucked up.

I dont care what anyone worships. But I demand a recip!

[dig420]

Originally posted by 12clicks
really diglet?
got a link?

what's really funny is the cute little nicknames, the smirk on your face while you're just typing the stupidest shit imaginable, actually thinking you're putting someone in their place.

You are the prototype Republican, proud of not knowing anything.

[Manowar]

Originally posted by emmanuelle
I see they all agree with the seperation of church & state

they seemed to merge together when bush got in power

[The Truth Hurts]

Originally posted by dig420
what's really funny is the cute little nicknames, the smirk on your face while you're just typing the stupidest shit imaginable, actually thinking you're putting someone in their place.

Uhmm... as much as I hate pointing out the blatantly obvious, that quote describes 99% of your posts.

[dig420]

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Uhmm... as much as I hate pointing out the blatantly obvious, that quote describes 99% of your posts.

yeah except none of you guys are ever able to point out anything I say that's wrong. You just give me a hurt look and go away, then you pop up in another thread saying the same ignorant shit you just got blasted out of the fucking water saying in the first thread. No learning curve for you guys, it's all intellectual flatline from start to finish.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by 12clicks
you wouldn't be the simple man you are if it was any other way.

at least I have moved up from "kid" to "man"

im improving!

[cluck]

I think Johnny Cash should have run for president.

[Jace]

Originally posted by 12clicks
really diglet?
got a link?

http://crusades.boisestate.edu/contents.html

[AnalProbe]

Originally posted by cluck
I think Johnny Cash should have run for president.

How about Willy Nelson ?

[webseth]

quote:
Originally posted by AsylumN
70% of republicans are stupid

Originally posted by dig420
that's a conservative estimate.

HAHAHA conservative estimate! harrrrrrrrrrrrr i get it

[12clicks]

Originally posted by dig420
it's called the FUCKING CRUSADES, the fucking INQUISITION for FUCK'S SAKE Ronnie!!

ahhh, so now to win your silly argument we have to go back several hundred years? this is why America is turning their backs on liberals. You're an embarrassment.

Originally posted by dig420
Does it hurt, not knowing anything?

I can't tell just by looking at you but christ, I AM embarrassed for you.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by dig420
what's really funny is the cute little nicknames, the smirk on your face while you're just typing the stupidest shit imaginable, actually thinking you're putting someone in their place.

You are the prototype Republican, proud of not knowing anything.

Its not surprizing that, having been shown your place, you're still not bright enough to take it.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
at least I have moved up from "kid" to "man"

im improving!

lol,,, lol ,,,, And note the " improvement" in the smiley department also.

You got instead of the usual

Congrats FletchXXXX....

[CraigA]

Originally posted by 12clicks
Yet the uneducated, liberal, rabble would like to prohibit the President from the free exercise of his religion.

typical but still sad.

You need to check yourself, you old fossil. When speaking of the uneducated, it's the Republicans who appeal to the LCD in this country with their simple, sound bite advertising and one liners that appeal to the uninformed. And what party in charge wants to put the squeeze on this industry and has made it impossible for me to listen to Howard Stern down here where I live since Clear Channel has pulled his program off the air from pressure by the FCC?
Who was that? Better check your rabble first. I could care less what Bush or any other person in his administration wants to practice as long as religion of ANY KIND has no impact on government.
That shouldn't be so hard to understand, even for the LCD.

[Rich]

12clicks is hilarious, 100% lame insults, 0% points. You can break his "arguments" apart with facts all day, he'll come back and call you "diglet" and think he somehow one upped you. It's amazing, he's like a child.

"this is why America is turning their backs on liberals", lol, I wish I could just talk out of my ass like he does but I'm forced to consider reality. I've often wondered if people like him walk around in a daze believing this shit themselves, or if they're conscious of their BS but just can't admit to every having been wrong.

Seeing as Kerry is up in the polls by about 6-7 points I'd suggest that America is turning it's back on conservatives, now that they remember how incompetent they are.

[CoolE]

Originally posted by 12clicks
...One group is basically harmless (if misguided) while the other group has killed 10s of thousands of innocent people...

Hmmm. A pornographer arguing that fundamentalist christians are harmless. Weird.

Here's some of the more recent harm done: http://freespeechcoalition.com/archives.html

Fundamentalist christians may not cut people's heads off (anymore) but that hardly is the benchmark to declare them "harmless".

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Rich
12clicks is hilarious, 100% lame insults, 0% points. You can break his "arguments" apart with facts all day, he'll come back and call you "diglet" and think he somehow one upped you. It's amazing, he's like a child.

"this is why America is turning their backs on liberals", lol, I wish I could just talk out of my ass like he does but I'm forced to consider reality. I've often wondered if people like him walk around in a daze believing this shit themselves, or if they're conscious of their BS but just can't admit to every having been wrong.

Seeing as Kerry is up in the polls by about 6-7 points I'd suggest that America is turning it's back on conservatives, now that they remember how incompetent they are.

Gee, quoting the poll where they asked more registered dems than republicans who they're likely to vote for.

uninformed child.
run along