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AOL/DMOZ, how to optimize to get better rankings?

06-14-2004, 08:56 PM

I remember when they started. They'd hire anybody as a reviewer.

How's their traffic nowadays? Good or just so-so?

If the traffic is worthy, how best to optimize a site for higher ranking?
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06-14-2004, 09:09 PM

content content content..

i spoke to a dmoz reviewer

thats what they look for
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06-14-2004, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by hyper
content content content..

i spoke to a dmoz reviewer

thats what they look for

You've gotta be kidding.
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06-14-2004, 11:56 PM

primary mistake is not submitting it to the most relevant sub-category available
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06-15-2004, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by Greg B
You've gotta be kidding.

Why would you say that? When I am reviewing sites for inclusion, I first make sure the site follows the rules then I make sure it's worthy of inclusion. If you have very little content or the same content as ten other sites I've listed, you're not getting in.

If you are submitting quality sites and not getting listed, the problem is probably sheer volume: some of the catgories have backlogs of tens of thousands of sites. Other categories have inactive or nonexistent editors but mostly it's just a matter of having too many sites to review.

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06-15-2004, 12:51 AM

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some of the catgories have backlogs of tens of thousands of sites. Other categories have inactive or nonexistent editors but mostly it's just a matter of having too many sites to review.

then stop posting on GFY and go review those sites now!
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06-15-2004, 01:00 AM

aol netfind uses google i think, as if you check results you will find there 1:1 of each other
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06-15-2004, 09:49 PM

I don't get it. How do you hire editors/reviewers with paysites to edit/review their competition's websites? Seems to me a conflict of interest somewhere there. If it works well, swell, but that does raise an eyebrow.
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06-15-2004, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Greg B
I don't get it. How do you hire editors/reviewers with paysites to edit/review their competition's websites? Seems to me a conflict of interest somewhere there. If it works well, swell, but that does raise an eyebrow.

DMOZ editors will mostly only add their own sites or their buddys

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06-15-2004, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by SpaceAce
Why would you say that? When I am reviewing sites for inclusion, I first make sure the site follows the rules then I make sure it's worthy of inclusion. If you have very little content or the same content as ten other sites I've listed, you're not getting in.

If you are submitting quality sites and not getting listed, the problem is probably sheer volume: some of the catgories have backlogs of tens of thousands of sites. Other categories have inactive or nonexistent editors but mostly it's just a matter of having too many sites to review.

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Would you consider this different content:
Various different web pages for the same model, each page with descriptions (at least 200 words) that are relevant to the scene?

Example: 30 pictures - 30 pages, 250 words per page
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06-15-2004, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by VeriSexy
DMOZ editors will mostly only add their own sites or their buddys

99% of us try to do the right thing. The real problem is too many submissions, period.

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06-15-2004, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Greg B
I don't get it. How do you hire editors/reviewers with paysites to edit/review their competition's websites? Seems to me a conflict of interest somewhere there. If it works well, swell, but that does raise an eyebrow.

It's an all-volunteer job so how picky can they really be about who they get to maintain the enormous DMOZ database? The general perception of corruption in the DMOZ editor pool is WAY overblown. Yes, some editors do shady crap but most are on the up-and-up and the shifty ones get busted eventually.

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06-15-2004, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by nap
Would you consider this different content:
Various different web pages for the same model, each page with descriptions (at least 200 words) that are relevant to the scene?

Example: 30 pictures - 30 pages, 250 words per page

Yes, I would consider that sufficiently unique to list as long as you kept it within reason. I don't care how much text you have, I am not listing fifteen sites built from one template and one continuous photo shoot. When I review sites, I don't care as much about whether I have seen the model before as I care that the site have some unique quality. I would never reject a site just because the model is in use on other sites.

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06-15-2004, 10:32 PM

Here are two tips for people trying to get listed in DMOZ:

#1) MAKE SURE YOU ARE SUBMITTING TO THE PROPER CATEGORY. Sorry if I am shouting but people submitting to the wrong categories is a MAJOR cause of delay in getting sites listed.
#2) Don't decide you're going to build a hardcore teen site and then go submit it to the hardcore teen gallery category. Instead, browse for a category that has very few links AND an editor listed. Yes, those categories get less traffic but getting 25 hits/day from a rarefied niche is better than getting 0 hits/day to your teen hardcore gallery which is sitting at the bottom of a list of 138,000 unreviewed sites.

Actually, I can combine both of those tips into one: Find an underserved category with an editor and then build a site that fits the category perfectly.

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06-15-2004, 10:49 PM

Thanks for the response
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06-15-2004, 11:05 PM

ook at the catergory in googles directory, if there are more PR0 sites than anything else in a catergory/ page Dont even bother submitting
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06-15-2004, 11:18 PM

Dmoz in adult is corrupt.So corrupt that they deny 99%applications for being an editor.
they don't want people moving into their territory.
If they were fair dinkum they would allow more editors and then have an overseer of those editors.
But fuck them.there is more than 1 way to get a site into dmoz.see sig
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