Again. I'm not talking about what a JUDGE would say IF somebody got arrested. I'm talking about how y''all non-law degree having GFY'ers saying that something is fundamentally wrong with even wanting to be hanging with girls between the ages of 18-21.

If they busted the biker gang bar that you're drinking beers in with your friends because they might happen to have a crank lab in the back that you didn't know about won't bring you any sympathy either because it's not customary for most people to hang out with biker gangs in their own bar...

my point is AGAIN is that adults put themselves in all kinds of situations that may become fucked up but nobody in here has the right to spout off about what OTHER people are doing when they are doing some of the same shit in a different form.

WORD...when in doubt checks id's

edi-t she's 15 she WILL brag..tell you homie to SEE SIG

yeah, my thoughts is she will brag.. just like she was doing splits and tricks for some 30 year olds in their apartment. she craves attention :2 cents:

of coruse she is, she's fucking 15...also i think stan=highonacid

Pretty fucked up situation. I know it's terrible now, but my best friend and I used to tell guys that we were 19 all the time when we were 15. I didn't realize then just how bad it was. I guess most girls don't. Of course, we never had sex with any of those guys. We kissed a few, but that's all.

You know, though, without seeing an ID there really isn't much of a way to tell how old a girl is. For example, there was this girl we went to highschool with. She went to the tanning bed and lied in the sun alot for several years (from the time she was around 10) and it totally RUINED her skin. She had wrinkles and her skin was leathery... the whole deal. She used to go through the lunch line at school and new/substitute lunch ladies would try to give her the teacher's discount every single time without fail. No kidding. She was 16 years old and she looked AT LEAST 28. Could have passed for 35.

This is one way casual sex can get you into trouble. If you take the time to get to know someone before you sleep with them, you have time to get to know where they work (or go to school!), where they live, who their friends are, etc. If more people took the time to get to know each other before hopping into bed things like this would be less likely to happen. Sure, it could still happen, but it would be ALOT less likely.

I say it's a good idea to get a chick to let you come back to HER place rather than taking her somewhere else. If she doesn't want to let you, it's probably because she has a boyfriend or husband at home... or parents! :1orglaugh

Sorry your friend got in trouble. That's a bad situation. :(

looking older and takling mature is too different things...you'll know just how old a chick is...what 19+ do flips....i mean that what little girls do.....dude is up shit creek for real, now for the rest of life he's labelled as a SEX OFFENDER...

UPDATE!

I just got home from the studio and there is a note on my door to go see my neighbor (the one that divulged the age information). I'm getting changed real quick and going over there.

My heart is pounding 1000 beats per minute right now! I really don't fear for myself as much as I do for my friend, Stan. I will post when I get back and let everyone know of the outcome.

I can only assume this meeting has one purpose; him telling me that he reported Stan or someone in my community reported him and he's just giving me a head's up. Man, this is probably the worst situation I have ever been in my entire life! One of my best friends from college has a great possibility of going to prison. Even if I tell him and he decides to run, his life is forever changed. :(

I hate to break some news to you if you were there cheering them on , you could be in trouble also .

Yep, if he gets convicted, in most states he will have to register as a convicted sex offender when he's released and every time he moves. I wonder if it was worth having sex with a total stranger?

You admitted you thought she was 19. Did you or anyone in else on your house give her alcohol?!?



I agree. Especially if alcohol was involved, if she presses charges on him you could be charged as well...

It seems "Stan" most likely won't be in this predicament again. Soon enough he will becomes someone's bitch in jail.


BG

31? Sorry, what a fucking loser, especially for not verifying her age. I don't give a sh!t what anyone says, he didn't press the age issue because he didn't want to know.. And for fucking a 15 year old at 31 years old, maybe he does deserve to be a registered sex offender.

Brad

I am wondering what this girl is going to say or not say too.

Man that comparison is reeeeeally reaching. :1orglaugh

Interesting thread.

So some 30 year old plus men get drunk and one fucks a 15 year old (thinking she was 19 since she said so) that had access to alcohol and his friends cheered him on while fucking in a public place is rape.

Unbelievable that anyone would post this so I am just going to assume it is fake drama. If it is true, I hope Dad and Mom don?t find out or a neighbor who saw it doesn?t report it or whatever that guys name is in trouble.

The funny thing is that many people are saying check the ID before you fuck. What BS is that? Was it a porn shoot? I believe if I read correctly, it was a drunken thirty old plus thinking with his dick. Next time he should think with his brain. Since when do you card a person to have sex with?


BVF, you are disgusting. I work with inner city people and they think I am racist because I am white?I get shit all the time, but I am not allowed to say look who are the drug dealers and pimps in your neighborhood and can you link them up to a white conglomerate. It is really sad.

Im 23 and I still talk about my highschool cheerleading days.


2, 4, 6, 8

you can watch me masturbate


:Graucho


Seriously, young chicks lie about thier age. If I were a man, I would demand to see an ID. An older chick (even 21) would take it as a compliment, whereas a 14 yr old would get mad and leave, thus saving you from prison time.

HighOnAcid how sure are you that your neigbour wasn't just kidding you about her age for the fun of it?

this is some wcky shit.

are you smoking weed right now???

going to a public place to have some beers and putting your cock in a 15 year old in your buddys jacuzzi are a bit different.

not even the same fucking ballpark, Vic!

SHE'S 19!!!!!!!!!!!

My neighbor was fucking around and he said that if he had my cell# he would have called me earlier today to tell me that he was just fucking around! If he had realized the ramifications of his joke he would have stopped over last night and told me the truth, saving me from a day of stress. Not to mention Stan's stress (his name is Tony now that the coast is clear). He fed me with a great dinner his wife cooked as a sort of redemption for his sick joke.

I explained to him how much stress he put not only me but Tony in and he apologized numerous times. Every other word was, "I'm sorry.".

You want to talk about a monkey off your shoulders...well HOLY SHIT, this was a Gorilla! I told him that the girl didn't look anywhere near 15 and he thought I would have called him out. Instead, I freaked out.

WHAT A DAY!!!!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh I had a funny feeling this was the case

i love it.

:1orglaugh

you should have spit in his food and kicked his ass. that is not fucking funny .

now get a pick of the dumbass attention whore doing splits like an idiot for the boys..lol

joining ya :stoned

*CONE*

(for the aussies)

As we speak, my friend. :rasta

I plan to this weekend when she comes back to the pool. :Graucho

Asshole. You thought she was 15 and now that you know she is 19 and you are over 30, you have a plan?

Grow up:1orglaugh

What a lot of bullshit...I was a bouncer for just over 10 years and ive gotta say if a girl really wants to look 19 - 21 its almost impossible to tell. Dunno about the states but in oz the amount of girls that we had showing up to pubs and clubs looking every bit matured and fully formed was staggering. We got burned all the time by 15 or 16 year olds getting in with good fake id but without even being given a second glance by the doorman.

Alot of it has to do with there confidence and the way they carry themselves.
I feel for your mate i think he is in a fucked up situation but the chances are he is stressing over nothing...just make sure he lays low untill this chick goes back to whence she came.

I'm 29, dipshit. :321GFY

If you would have followed along, my friend was over 30. It's real easy. Words joined together form sentences...you read them from left to right. I can draw it out in crayon or paint a picture with finger paints if it makes it easier for you to understand.

Of course I have a plan...to shoot her! Doing splits, stretching, the whole 9 yards. After I get a copy of her ID and a signed release, the world is my oyster!

What's your plan? To get off of welfare within the next 3 months? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Just got to the end of this thread and read the outcome.

Dude go back to your mates place with a sledge hammer and bust his fukin knees...that shit isnt funny at all.:feels-hot

whatever....no one who hangs with criminals needs to talk about somebody else hanging with teenagers...

If you think that's reaching then so be it.

Jesus christ...what are YOU smoking?

The dude DIDN'T KNOW that the girl was 15...He though that she was 18...Yes, he would still get screwed with the judge but that isn't the fucking point...the POINT is that he THOUGHT that she was 18 and y'all are giving him shit for hanging with 18 year old girls...And it ESPECIALLY shouldn't come from someone who hangs with criminals in a fucking bar period.

Like I said..It's a matter of opinion...YOU don't think what YOU is wrong no matter what the fuck anybody says and I'm the same way...Difference with me is that I keep my mouth shut so that I won't be a hypocrite.

BVF, You are absolutely correct!

Now that we all know she is 19, I feel a lot better but that doesn't change the fact that we all THOUGHT she was 19 in the first place. We were drunk and hanging out by the hottub when a bunch of hot young girls joined us. Show me one 30 year old that would ask for ID after everyone in the party stated they were above the legal consent age and I'll show you one anal mother fucker that probably wouldn't be in the hottub to begin with!

I understand BVF's analogy and by saying it's a "stretch" or any other bullshit just makes you a very close minded individual, in my opinion. You've obviously never been put into a sitution where younger girls actually approached you. The LAST thing on your mind is to ask them for proper ID and a signed release!

Then your friend is just fucking stupid for having sex without a condom lol.

Yep. I must admit that fucking a stranger rawdog was dumb.

Sorry, 29 years old or 30, what is the difference when you thought your friend was fucking a 15 year old and cheered your friend on.

I am not on welfare so I guess my plan is when you try to sell the content I won't buy :)

You just showed that you have absolutely no reading comprehension..

He NEVER said that he cheered on somebody to fuck a girl that they KNEW was 15 years old...

I'm so sure of it, I'll bet you $1,000 of "High Acid's" money that he didn't say it. :)

It's very clear that you didn't take the time to read the entire thread or at least comprehend the initial post. Either one or the other but most likely the latter.

Sit down, grab your spectacles and read the paragraph that follows...Right there in the initial post. It's real interesting. Something in regards to NOT KNOWING HER AGE UNTIL MY NEIGHBOR POINTED IT OUT. Reading is fundamental. It's not really that complicated, champ.

"...We're cheering him on and people are looking from their porches to see what the commotion was all about. They wrap it up in about an hour and she scurries off because she HAS A 10:00 CURFEW!!! WTF!?!?! A 19 year old with a curfew?
..."

Read his first post.

Hell, bet $100,000. I love sure bets! :thumbsup

Amazing. You people condemning a guy for fucking a girl he thought was 19. Forget the fact that she actually turned out to be 15. Some of you people are saying he's pathetic to be fucking a 19 year old girl in the first place. Like a 19 year old girl isn't mature enough to have sex. How many of you hypocrites promote sites with teens gettign fucked by 20, 30, 40 year old guys?

A girl is mature enough to have sex and get paid for it, but yanno, not mature enough for a one night stand.

These days, it's getting harder and harder to tell a 15 year old and a 20 year old apart. All the goddamn hormones and shit in food these days. So many of my friend's younger sisters, petite girls, not chubby, have got like C cup and D cup and in some cases DD cup tits. We're talking about girls aged 14-16.

Hell, even when i was 15, which was only 5 years ago, the difference was way bigger than it is today. So i imagine that for a 31 year old, the difference is even bigger. But seriously, if i didn't know who these girls were, i would be forgiven for thinking they were easily 18.

Back to the fact she's 15. These laws are fucked up. These girls need to be accountable for their own actions. Not everybody is trained to spot a fake ID. They're not fucking bouncers. If a girl produces a fake ID just so she can get fucked, then i don't think the guy should be charged at all. That's some fucked up shit. i know this chick wasn't asked for ID, but so fucking what? Even saying it, especially if she said it in front of a lot of people, should be enough for the guy to be in the clear. I know that legally, it's not, i'm just saying that it should.

These sluts go around fucking up people's lives. They're devious little whores.

This case is an even stronger example. She was the one coming onto him, coming on strong, etc. What a slut. I don't feel sorry for her at all.

And i can't fucking believe how many people are going on about how he "should have known" because of how she talked or something. What? Did you guys hear a secret fucking audio file with all the stuff she said that i didn't know about? It's ignorant for you to assume that she sounds like and talks about the same stuff as any other 15 year old.

I've recently been emailing my cousin who i haven't seen since he was about 5 or 6 years old. I think he's about 14 now, and he types more coherently and eloquently than most 20 year old people i know. I know girls that are 14, 15 and 16 years old (again, sisters of friends) that seem more mature than some women i have met. It's not entirely impossible that this girl did actually appear to be 19, and was mature enough to pass for 19, or even 21.

About the only "wrong" thing here was giving the girl alcohol when they thought she was 19. Obviously against the law, but how many of you are honestly going to say you never had a drink before you were 21? Or never had someone over 21 give you a drink?

Such bullshit, and such hypocrisy.

Isn't this a public forum? You asked how to judge a 30 year old plus man fucking 15 year old?

I really could care less if you and your friends think it is okay to for one to fuck and the others to cheer on because IMO, you guys are sick.

It was just about a 30 old plus friend that fucked a 15 year old or a 19 year old in a public place. And know he doesn't have to worry...

Since it was fake drama:)

Well damn, that's a relief!

:thumbsup

This isn't South America...over there the laws don't apply and it's ok for a dirty 40 year old man to be with a 12 year old girl....

You hit the nail on the head! :thumbsup

Saw this article and it made me think of this thread:

The Associated Press
Monday, June 14, 2004; 1:57 PM

RICHMOND, Va. - The state is posting billboards with messages such as "Isn't she a little young?" as part of a campaign to dissuade men from having sex with underage girls.

The campaign is aimed at reducing the number of young girls who have children with older men, the Virginia Department of Health said Monday.

In 1999 and 2000 in Virginia, men over 18 were responsible for 219 births involving girls who were 13 and 14, the department said.

Messages such as "Isn't she a little young?" and "Sex with a minor, don't go there" also appear on posters, coasters and napkins in bars, restaurants and stores in five cities.

"We encourage adult men to talk to their peers and discourage them from pursuing teenagers. What they are doing is unhealthy and against the law," said Robert Franklin, a health department official.

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imagine all the fucking that was going on that didnt result in pregnancies.

Where are you from? My local grocery chain (Wegman's) started doing this exact thing yesterday. Your response looks like EXACTLY like the sign I saw in the store while checking out.

794.05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors.--

(1) A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.

(2) The provisions of this section do not apply to a person 16 or 17 years of age who has had the disabilities of nonage removed under chapter 743.

(3) The victim's prior sexual conduct is not a relevant issue in a prosecution under this section.

(4) If an offense under this section directly results in the victim giving birth to a child, paternity of that child shall be established as described in chapter 742. If it is determined that the offender is the father of the child, the offender must pay child support pursuant to the child support guidelines described in chapter 61. History.--RS 2598; s. 1, ch. 4965, 1901; GS 3521; s. 1, ch. 6974, 1915; s. 1, ch. 7732, 1918; RGS 5409; s. 1, ch. 8596, 1921; CGL 7552; s. 1, ch. 61-109; s. 759, ch. 71-136; s. 1, ch. 96-409.

that is virginia folk for ya :thumbsup