i would be more worried about STD's since from your story Stan did not use a condom

Most of the time yes, but there are cases where girls can look alot older or alot younger then they are. We would have to see a pic to really judge I suppose.

This is a VERY SMART MAN talking. :thumbsup

Fletch - I'm not agreeing with the situation - but like I said, I was twelve and people thought I was 22-23. Since I started going to clubs at an early age, I was in clubs at 13 & never got questioned for ID whereas the people I was with, who were over 18 did. The first time I got asked for ID I was 22 and in a nightclub in Florida.

no, the fact that people want to see the pic is the problem.

the guy admitted he thought she was 19.

well, judge and parents are going to bring up the fact they were giving these girls alcohol, and if it happened on his property, the alcohol and minors thing is just as important as sex with minors.

the guy was 31 years old, sounds like he is hanging around with children because he likes them.

he knew she was young, but didnt care to make sure she was legal.

i would have asked for IDS.

nothing funnier then guys who put themselves in these positions and then people feel sorry for them?

this guy was OWNED by his own dick. OWNED BY UNDERAGE PUSSY.

now some dumb kid slut is gonna be in school while homie is finding out what cock in the ass feels like.

OWNED. no ones fault but his own.

Exactly, maybe 99% of the time you can tell if she is underage.

But saying that you can absolutly always tell a girls age 100% of the time is BS.

a very extraprdinary story.

regardless 30 year old giving alcohol to 19 year olds is still a problem.

as i said, when the lawyers and judges get involved it wont just be about "oh she looked 21"

thats not the issue, ;)

Looks can be deceiving sure, but even Stevie Wonder can tell a 15 year old girl ... I have not met an overly mature 15 year old yet.

The way one acts in their 20's cannot really be faked. It can only be got thru experience.

Hopefully the girl will not write about her ecounter in some diary, so her parents will be able to read it

I wasnt saying I want to see a pic of a underage girl. I was stating that you cant judge what he should have done when you have no idea what he was faced with.

ok i understand you, but that will never change the fact that 1 question could have changed this.

a friendly "girl you look too tasty to be legal, lemme see your ID to make sure"

if you arent man enough to ask that you arent man enough to be fucking girls in front of your friends.

the guy wanted to show off in front of his boys and so he did, he could have EASILY avoided this.

"girl i got a little sister your height, lets see your ID"

the moment she start playing it off and wont show, you know somethings up.

i was young once too guys.

;)

OK, what if he had asked for ID and she produced a fake one. It doesnt seem unreasonable for a girl like this to have one. What should he have done then?

HAHAHAHHAHAAAA

those lines are cheesy!

but yes this is the idea

Just don't use FletchXXX lines!

Stan is not a pedo and dates women his own age. His last girlfriend was 29. What happened was a spur of the moment encounter and what he did was wrong.

We had been drinking all day and it was a spontaneous encounter. He did think with his dick, but never did he think of asking for ID. Maybe he was being naive but If you sit there and preach about how wrong he is then your shit must not stink. Spontaneous sexual encounters happen all the time and if you're in that situation, the last thing you think about is asking the girl for an ID when she totally looks of age.

Some of the girls on teen sites look like they're 12 - although legal, if you were to see them on the streets you would think they were 12! It works both ways! Some girls that are 15 honestly look of age. I can assure you, she was not built like a 15 year old!

too many what ifs.

doesnt matter.

but at least he asked.

bars are responsible for people with fake IDs.

are you even old enough to get into a bar? Sometimes I have to remember this board is filled with 19 year olds, so there is no way you can understand the experience of a man when half of you are kids yourself. ;)

I see 15-17 year old hotties walk past my apt all day, am i fool enough to assume they are legal?

buahahaha

im not that dumb

:1orglaugh

I was a doorman at a club for long time

It is easy to learn how to spot fake ID

only an Ignoramus Rex would fall for the fake ID

if it looks fake - probably is!

I am 25 thank you. Again I am not condoning what he did. I just belive that the way the sysyem is setup is wrong. If a girl is going to lie and delibritly misrepresent her age she should face some repercussions as well. This girl certianly doesnt sound like a victim to me.

Isnt expecting normal people to spot fake IDs going a little to far. Besides some of the fakes I have seen people get online have been extemely good.

id love to see content providers use this same excuse after shooting content of a girl that was 15.

"officer, she gave me an ID, but it was fake"

grow up, any man involved with shit like this put himself there, FACT.

:1orglaugh

I keep trying to explain to you people that the sex is only part of this.

the judges and lawyers KNOW they can convict on giving alcohol to minors.

the guys admitted they thought the girls were 19, if that was the case they were giving them alcohol.

AFTEr the judge hears that, the sex will come into play and THEN the question of how dumb he was will come to play.

alcohol in the mix makes this much much worst.

am i the only one that watches CourtTV???

:1orglaugh

fuk i feel for stan
its the luck of the draw man
i know in the uk u can get away with
"i didnt know how old she was until 24years old"
plus it was consensual

if she dont go to the cops then hes in the clear
with a lesson learnt!!:1orglaugh

Shooting porn and everyday excounters are two very different things.

This is the type of thing that could happen to almost anybody. All you would have to do is let your guard down just a little. Have one beer too many.

There is a difference between a 30 year pedo going out and seduing a innocent 15 year old virgin. And what happened in this situation.

Did Stan fuck up? Yes
But does he deserve 5 years in jail for it?

this is not for me to decide, no clue why you keep asking ME these questions.

ask her parents how they feel about a guy giving their daughter beer until she is fucking people in front of a crowd.

i have nothing to do with this, could not have changed it and am only laughing about it becaue i can say this will NEVER happen to me.

when i am 30 the last thing ill be doing is sitting around at some guys house trying to get girls drunk for jacuzzi sex.

women are more fun for sex than dumb bratty cheerleader girls.

he can say "she looked older" all he wants. Ive seen her type. Some dumb chatty girl, wants to be the life of the party and all eyes on her. so she starts doing splits and showing how flexible she is, the guys start giving her alcohol, then its on.

been there before guy, i was 20 and had younger friends too at one time. that has changed, I dont even hang with 19 year olds.

sorry at some point you need to grow up, and at 30 he should have long ago. Instead he wants to sit around with highschool kids drinking beer. Sorry man, im a diffferent guy ;)

:1orglaugh

See what happens when guys think with their dick? It's been the downfall of many men.

Btw, what were you doing feeding her booze if you thought she was 18/19? Isn't the drinking age there 21? You, as the host, could get into trouble for that too :2 cents:

stan needs to go to the clinic

Card them at the door before they come in...:thumbsup

saves a lot of headaches

I am so glad to be in Canada.

Our law is kinda crazy, though. I can legally have sex with a 14 year old ***yes 14*** as long as I am not in a position of influence, such as her teacher.

But I can't take a picture of her titties until she is 18.

:rasta

stan is fucked. if she presses charges, you should be scared as well for serving her. sorry.

See what happens when guys think with their dick? It's been the downfall of many men.

Btw, what were you doing feeding her booze if you thought she was 19? Isn't the drinking age there 21? You, as the host, could get into trouble for that too :2 cents:

I NEVER SERVED HER ALCHOHOL! My friends and I were sitting around drinking but I never served her a single drop of alchohol! I'm not stupid! Hell, she was coming on to me first but I rebuffed her advances so she moved over to Stan. Stan was a victim of circumstance.

She did not drink when she was in my place and she did not drink when we were by the pool. When I stated that "we" were drinking I meant it as in my friends and I were drinking...not the girls. I just wanted to make that clear.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

that's the best advice you can give someone

and she will state otherwise, no one will believe yuou and him over her. adults drinking alcohol with kids around? better yet, drunk adults fucking straight 15 year olds, see the issue at all?

kids lie to their parents as well as everyone they come into contact ith.

now its, "her ass or his" or even yours since it was at your pad.

this may sound funny but its really not, do not be suprised if this gets nasty.

as soon as she finds out he was 30 she will flip.

good luck

i dont know what kind of women you meet or where, but the 30 something women i know may mention the fact they were cheerleaders in passing conversation (if we are talking about old times) but NEVER do they break out doing splits, back flips or anything else.

didnt something set you off (other then horniness) when she stated she was a cheerleader AND started doing tricks on your floor? didnt the giggling with friends alert you to how young they were? granted some 19 y/o's are still in that frame of mind (the haha hee hee mindset) but most 19 y/o's, who are just out of school, will do most anything to impress upon others how mature they are (in most cases it's never the opposite because they want older men and you dont get an older man by acting like your 12...in most cases).

your friend is screwed! unless he is just visiting in which case tell him to leave and you may be guilty by association. you know contributing to a minor is not a good thing.

btw it doesnt matter if you gave her a drink, your friend gave her a drink or she took it out of your fridge all on her own, it happened in YOUR home.

first thing that came to mind was how could a 30 year old have a conversation with a 15 year old for more than 10 mins and not realize she wasd a kid?

the conversations alone would give it away.

ok, 15 year olds can have a womans body, but they will NEVER have the mind of a 30 yr old woman.

you can EASILY tell how old a girl is at 15. at least through conversation.

what the hell does 15 year old talk about? Mtv ? hahah

i agree!

My local supermarket now ID's all purchasers of alcohol or tobbaco products, REGARDLESS of how old or young the purchaser looks.
One of the reasons cited is "to protect our cashiers from prosecution".

It's YOUR responsibility to say "How old are you?"

Statute of limitations is a long long long time.

What you need to do is ask to have this thread deleted and SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Don't waste time explaining to these people who don't live in reality. They can talk all kinds of big shit in the comfort of their own home on a COMPUTER and with 20/20 hindsight vision.

I met a girl once in a club where you had to be 18 to get in the club. She had a beautiful chocolate ass and even though she had a young face, her body said otherwise and I figured that she was eighteen because POLICE OFFICERS WERE CHECKING EVERYBODY'S ID AT THE FUCKING DOOR!

I didn't say civilian club bouncers. I said POLICE OFFICERS...

I met the girl later and of course we fucked. I didn't even think of asking for ID before fucking her...

Turned out that she was 16 years old and she didn't even tell me until she had turned 17. She said that she never told me because she thought that "I wouldn't like her" if she told me her real age.

I asked her how in the fuck she got in the club that night while showing her ID to the cops outside and she just had a friend that LOOKED LIKE HER and showed them that ID and they bought it.

Looking back now, I can see where it went wrong but I had to actually go through that experience first. I would expect cops who are being paid to be there and who checks ID's all the time would fucking know if the girl isn't her on that ID but I was wrong.

Now would I let somebody tell me I should have checked for ID and yadda yadda, Hell fucking no because they have their heads too far up their asses.

All this shit about "women fuck better than the teenieboppers" are full of Horse Puckey..If that was the case, why isn't Lightspeed picking up a MILF here and there to make even more money? And that would be ESPECIALLY since all of these people in here supposedly wouldn't fuck an 18-21 year old..

This whole thread and the hypocritical responses in it are pure garbage.

How about kids that they have? How their boyfriend beats their asses as they're taking a long drag on a Newport Cigarette? How they sling dope and how their families slings dope? How about their family life?

I don't know any bitches that talk about MTV...The girls around here, young and old, talk about real life and unless they are a very young and SHELTERED individual who just happened to sneak out of the house, they don't talk about bubble gum and mtv.

You must have a very sick neighboorhood for 15 year old girls to be being beaten up by their boyfriends. You sit around with kids smoking cigarettes?

BVF we live in different worlds guy. Some of you need to grow up. I hang with people my age and try to live like an adult, not hanging with neighborhood trash, abuse victim teenagers, and crack smoking aids victims.

You have said on this board youve coached 16 year olds til they turned 17, then finally 18 so you could take pics of them, ive seen you say it. Now here on the board you admit to fucking 16 year olds.

we clearly are VERY DIFFERENT invidiuals.

"http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=109524

some strange people on this board.

BVF i have nothing against you but calling us immature and hypocrtes because we see something wrong about fuckign 1`5 year olds is not too cool.

I dont care what you people do but dont give any one else for stating their o0pinion.

maybe if u guys werent dirty old men and had half a personality u would get girls in their later 20's

i have no sympathy for dirty old men when they say they didnt know a girls age, wtf r u doing hanging with an 18 y/o at that age in the first place?

u guys are truly fucking losers.

What the fuck are you talking about? Dirty old men? Since when was 30 old? You need a warm cup of shut the fuck up. How old are you? Show me one 30 year old that wouldn't fuck a legal 18 year old and I'll show you a fag. :321GFY

BTW, don't you think you should change your sig? Rumor has it that the Stanley Cup now resides in Tampa.

BVF - at least you understand the situation and don't have a "holier-than-thou" attitude. What happened has already happened. Only time will tell the reprecutions.

FletchXXX you are my GFY hero

Guys, this is a case of "hindsight is 20/20". It's easy to sit here and list out all the warning bells that are obvious AFTER the fact, but give the guy a break. Shit happens. Hopefully it won't end up too badly.

Also glad I'm in Canada :(

highonacid all your arguments here today suggest that you are a miserable human being. you are mean. you are nasty.

Interesting read http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm

age of consent in Paraguay is 12, so is a guy in Paraguay that fucks a 12 year old a Pedophile?

Anyway, if the autorities find out, your mate is fucked, ignorance is never an excuse :glugglug

Well that really sucks..sorry

Damn, that's some insanity. I wish I knew what to tell you, but man, I guess that's why I try to avoid any girls that seem to even possibly be in their teens.

Backtracking? :(

of course he is . children are children all around the globe . any grown man who is attracted to a prepubescent/pubescent child is a pedophile.