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KRL 06-12-2004 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by clickhappy
lol, I dont get that one either.

KRL if you were going to start a dating service would you hit the general sector like a match.com and go for everyone, or would you try to niche it out and go for a smaller sector like say jdate or swingers personals?

since theres no content involved I dont know if it's dumb to cut the audience down and the profit potential, or if it's a smart move to niche because you have a more eager audience.

We're testing a variety of sectors. Overall it seems to be there's a lot more men looking than there are women.

KRL 06-12-2004 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by Nima
KRL we have a free membership dating site with over 30,000 members, active members posting on message board as well as its very own instant messenger. Got any ideas to expand its opportunities? hit me up 63125103
E-mail the URL or post it to see.

[email protected]

JulianSosa 06-12-2004 09:51 PM

Question to escortbiz. Why dont you do a pay per join program?

gornyhuy 06-12-2004 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Well, this is really EB's thread, but since you asked, I'll give my 2cents worth.

Thanks for the info - this thread is becoming very valuable. What a greaty night for GFY business usefulness. :) Now I "just" need to crank out some well targeted FPAs with several strategic exit consoles and alternate filters.

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
In regards to your second question, a 50/50 revshare means both the affiliate and site owner are in the same boat revenue wise.
True - but in this case the affiliate is the one paying for the PPC so there is no risk for the site owner.

Nima 06-12-2004 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
E-mail the URL or post it to see.

[email protected]

you've got mail

WiredGuy 06-12-2004 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa
I dont play with adwords much but I understood you could not have exit on them?
Adwords does not. Other PPC engines allow 1-2 exit consoles.
WG

EscortBiz 06-12-2004 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by Chaldoray
For example, to open one in san diego....
maybe around 10k square feet.
Can i get your icq so i can ask you a few more stuff?
Thanks

158802076

sure

EscortBiz 06-12-2004 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by bdjuf
that's fantastic

also, if you get them for 70% off, how much will you sell them for to the general public?

also about the rolex I am not too sure, but if you are interested in a Tag Heuer watch for good price, hit me up in about 2 weeks :thumbsup

on ebay just look around what others sell for

local I would test different pricing, you def want to be able to provide documentation that the watch is authentic

EscortBiz 06-12-2004 11:58 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
What is your main sources of traffic..(for your tushycash sites) in order... (excluding affiliates)

When you advertise on TGPs.. are you looking for instant profits.. or is cashing in only on rebills a viable biz model..?

SE
Strong trades with people who have traffic that match the niche

Def have to break even right away for it to be worth it, especially with my niche stuff if a TGP cant break even right away its not worth it for me.

Rebills from TGP traffic dont come in as nice as SE traffic, simply because the TGP surfer likes to cancel right away before even checking out the members area, fear of recurring, thats why all my sites sell the one time memberships well to.

kush 06-13-2004 12:01 AM

If I wanted to mount a 45 inch plasma or LCD TV on the wall in my master bedroom, which kind do you recommend I get?

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by gornyhuy
What SE PPC programs do you recommend/which ones do you find give the best ROI for your sites?

Is SE PPC a viable option for affiliates or does the 50% cut erode the margins too much?

Google
Overture
FindWhat

I know many affiliates who make a nice living using PPC to promote programs, it takes lots of patience constant tweaking and very important to go after specific terms and not so much the broad terms everyone is after.

You have to research the niche and see what others words people use to refer to it, what lines people would type in, too many just go to the inventory.overture and rely on that too much.

You can make a killing if you are creative and take the time.

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by serious
Did your se software ever go anywhere or did you put that on hold for now?
for now on hold

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by KC
I buy all my watches from a broker in Singapore who can get at least 70% off retail. Let me know if you want his info.
would really appreciate that

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by Mike33
Good advice Escortbiz. Wanted to bring up this point with you. There are sponsors that are now using "Traps" where there is a non-stop bombardment of pop-ups right on their site if you use that option as an affiliate. Is this a fad, bad business, or good business because they seem to be using it to make sales?
def think anything that annoys surfers is bad for everyone.

but when affiliate programs are trying to give big per signups payouts they get desperate, especially the ones who have sites loaded with bad content they really are desperate.

I do believe in a last chance popup, 1 popup if the surfer leaves the signup page to offer them to join for a lower price.

I use that on all my sites.

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
what's your last bad decision you made? :)
hiring a content provider without doing more research on them.

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:23 AM

1. I started a gay paysite and it was doing pretty well converting at 1:400, but then I got nervous about obscenity laws and I pulled the plug on it. Do you think theres anything we need to be concerned about with laws or am I being paranoid? It was just a standard hardcore site, nothing weird.
I miss the site and the profit potential and I'd like to fire it back up again.

Every site is different and If I was you for the sake of being able to sleep at night I would have an industry attorney like richard chapo or lawrence walter etc. look it over, provide any advice on changes etc.

I am very paranoid in general so im not the right guy to ask about paranoia lol but I think everyone should be concered just for that 1% chance that they are planning something etc. Its def worth to do whatever you can to protect yourself.

2. If you were starting out today as a new site maker what niche would you pick?

Def some of the same niches im in now, spanking, ass licking, medical etc. I try to avoid all the common niches simply because its harder to get listed on TGP's MGP's, harder to convert since there is so much of it out there, harder to get any good SE traffic and many more reasons, but again most people including myself once upon a time like to do what everyone else is doing.

3. Do you think softcore content can make as much money as hardcore?
I mean if I were to film content I dont want to have to deal with hardcore shoots and hiv tests and all that. I'd rather just have a model masturbate on camera. But is that something that surfers wont pay for?

The key is targetted traffic and you can sell anything, its like a BBW site sells but not with teen traffic.

Surfers sure will pay for solo, there are some huge sites that are solo masterbation, by the way softcore is really where girls do nothing more then pose etc. masterbating is not hardcore but def way easier to sell then some model standing undressing and thats it.

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by clickhappy
Do you think theres still money to be made with starting and owning a dating site, or do you think theyre over saturated now?
Dating and anything that give a surfer hope of meeting for real will always sell.

Yes there are tons of dating sites but if you are creative and come up with different features you can def make decent money.

JulianSosa 06-13-2004 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa
Question to escortbiz. Why dont you do a pay per join program?
Im sure your stuff retains.. why not?

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Well, this is really EB's thread, but since you asked, I'll give my 2cents worth.

In regards to getting the best ROI (and for the sites I push, not necessarily EB's), I find AdWords and the smaller PPC engines like Findwhat work rather well. The key is to look at the top results and try to figure out what would make your site convert better. Some thoughts to put into the mix is delivering exactly what the surfer looked for. If a surfer searched for "black midgets", you better show a black midget in your landing page. If you can and your competitors can't, you now have a competitive advantage. Similiarly, if you can target your exits by keyword, this is a huge boost. Say that surfer came to your site but decided to leave without buying. You've already qualified that surfer as interested in black and midgets. So if you can reflect this in your exits, you stand a better chance on capturing the clickthrough. It's all about margins in PPC SE's and every single opportunity you can find to give you a little edge will put you slightly ahead of your competitors.

In regards to your second question, a 50/50 revshare means both the affiliate and site owner are in the same boat revenue wise. It's in both your interest to maximize your sales, but assuming everything else is equal, if you can optimize your landing pages better, you stand to make a better profit. With that being said, a large portion of my business is based on PPC SE's, mostly for the stability that traditional search engines can't offer, so it definitely is a viable option.

Cheers.
WG

wow good stuff thanks

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by POV Porn guy
Still keeping an eye out for that ring right?
yup, how serious is it?

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by JulianSosa
Question to escortbiz. Why dont you do a pay per join program?
def something im thinking about

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by kush
If I wanted to mount a 45 inch plasma or LCD TV on the wall in my master bedroom, which kind do you recommend I get?
I really know nothing about that sorry

chodadog 06-13-2004 12:34 AM

I remember a while back, you posted about a phone verification system for check joins. How did that work out?

Also, i vaguely remember something about an SEO program you were working on. Is that still in the works?

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
I remember a while back, you posted about a phone verification system for check joins. How did that work out?

Also, i vaguely remember something about an SEO program you were working on. Is that still in the works?

the phone verification system is still working and def helping us stop potential check scammers

the seo stuff is on hold

chodadog 06-13-2004 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
the phone verification system is still working and def helping us stop potential check scammers
Are you thinking about applying it to credit card joins, too? Or do you think it would have too much of a negative effect on sales?

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
Are you thinking about applying it to credit card joins, too? Or do you think it would have too much of a negative effect on sales?
I only applied it to checks because like everyone else check signups are over 50% bogus, this is a good way to deter them.

I dont have that problem with CC's

WiredGuy 06-13-2004 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
wow good stuff thanks
Thanks, means a lot coming from you.
WG

chodadog 06-13-2004 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
I only applied it to checks because like everyone else check signups are over 50% bogus, this is a good way to deter them.
Oh yeah, that's what i forgot to ask about. What were your bogus percantages before and after implementing the system? Just to get an idea of the impact.

EscortBiz 06-13-2004 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
Oh yeah, that's what i forgot to ask about. What were your bogus percantages before and after implementing the system? Just to get an idea of the impact.
Between the phone system and the ccbill email verification im down to about 8% bad checks from over 70%

chodadog 06-13-2004 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
Between the phone system and the ccbill email verification im down to about 8% bad checks from over 70%
Damn. That's pretty awesome. Congrats.

kelly 06-13-2004 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
Between the phone system and the ccbill email verification im down to about 8% bad checks from over 70%
WOW!!! That is very impressive.

teomaxxx 06-13-2004 01:05 AM

whats avereage retantion on your sites?
I used to promote only bad tushy and it was about 2 months.

detoxed 06-13-2004 01:06 AM

Would you be willing to assist someone in setting up the phone verification system for checks? Either do it through you for a monthly fee or just pay to set it up.

clickhappy 06-13-2004 06:53 AM

I just got up and checked the thread.
Thanks to EscortBiz and KRL :thumbsup

mrgica 06-13-2004 08:26 AM

What tracking system/statistics shod I use in my galleries?
I have webalizer and urchin stats, but they do not show referrers for a single page/gallery...
And I don't like using sextracker, sexlist etc...

So I would like something that can track which links in the gallery are most clicked, where are visitors come from...I don't know anything that can help me analyze the traffic better.

RRACY 06-13-2004 11:09 AM

bump

mrgica 06-13-2004 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by mrgica
What tracking system/statistics shod I use in my galleries?
I have webalizer and urchin stats, but they do not show referrers for a single page/gallery...
And I don't like using sextracker, sexlist etc...

So I would like something that can track which links in the gallery are most clicked, where are visitors come from...I don't know anything that can help me analyze the traffic better.

What the hell? Everyone gets an answer and I don't? :NopeNope


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