Thank you.


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u welcome

this is the requirement

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/164500...ngue150_ap.jpg

what plugins do you have in your members area?

none

say you could get real high quality watches for 70% off the retail price... (tag heuer, movado, rolex and such)

and you had 50 000$ to invest, how would you proceed to make this as profitable as possible?

where would you advertise/sell the watches?
would you think ebay is the right place to do it?


thanx again :thumbsup

You can get me a real rolex for 70% off? Ill buy today

But I would spend money on SE traffic and also pay money or commision to jewlery stores online that done sell watches (tons of just bracelet and ring sites) to place ads or banners there.

Def only use targetted advertising.

Ebay wont hurt (they only allow real watches) it can def be a way to sell but also generate good tragetted traffic to your site.

For example, to open one in san diego....
maybe around 10k square feet.
Can i get your icq so i can ask you a few more stuff?
Thanks

that's fantastic

also, if you get them for 70% off, how much will you sell them for to the general public?

also about the rolex I am not too sure, but if you are interested in a Tag Heuer watch for good price, hit me up in about 2 weeks :thumbsup

What is your main sources of traffic..(for your tushycash sites) in order... (excluding affiliates)

When you advertise on TGPs.. are you looking for instant profits.. or is cashing in only on rebills a viable biz model..?

What SE PPC programs do you recommend/which ones do you find give the best ROI for your sites?

Is SE PPC a viable option for affiliates or does the 50% cut erode the margins too much?

Did your se software ever go anywhere or did you put that on hold for now?

I buy all my watches from a broker in Singapore who can get at least 70% off retail. Let me know if you want his info.

Good advice Escortbiz. Wanted to bring up this point with you. There are sponsors that are now using "Traps" where there is a non-stop bombardment of pop-ups right on their site if you use that option as an affiliate. Is this a fad, bad business, or good business because they seem to be using it to make sales?

what's your last bad decision you made? :)

If youre still answering I have some

1. I started a gay paysite and it was doing pretty well converting at 1:400, but then I got nervous about obscenity laws and I pulled the plug on it. Do you think theres anything we need to be concerned about with laws or am I being paranoid? It was just a standard hardcore site, nothing weird.
I miss the site and the profit potential and I'd like to fire it back up again.

2. If you were starting out today as a new site maker what niche would you pick?

3. Do you think softcore content can make as much money as hardcore?
I mean if I were to film content I dont want to have to deal with hardcore shoots and hiv tests and all that. I'd rather just have a model masturbate on camera. But is that something that surfers wont pay for?

Good question :)
WG

Doing things no one else knows about or has figured out yet.

Do you think theres still money to be made with starting and owning a dating site, or do you think theyre over saturated now?

Thanks... your rep says that you would have a good answer... I'm listening. :)

BD if they are positively the real deal let me know what you have. And make sure they didn't fall off the back of a truck in Hong Kong also.

I can move them all day long in South Florida through a dealer I know if you can get them consistenly at those prices.

Dating sites are one of the strongest sectors out there.

Barry Diller's USA Interactive paid $165 Million to acquire uDate.com.

Go look at the site then come back here and shake your head along with me.

BD

I have a few hundred K to invest if you can get those prices.

I have people in NY and Boston ready.

leave your e-mail

Spankstrocko

Well, this is really EB's thread, but since you asked, I'll give my 2cents worth.

In regards to getting the best ROI (and for the sites I push, not necessarily EB's), I find AdWords and the smaller PPC engines like Findwhat work rather well. The key is to look at the top results and try to figure out what would make your site convert better. Some thoughts to put into the mix is delivering exactly what the surfer looked for. If a surfer searched for "black midgets", you better show a black midget in your landing page. If you can and your competitors can't, you now have a competitive advantage. Similiarly, if you can target your exits by keyword, this is a huge boost. Say that surfer came to your site but decided to leave without buying. You've already qualified that surfer as interested in black and midgets. So if you can reflect this in your exits, you stand a better chance on capturing the clickthrough. It's all about margins in PPC SE's and every single opportunity you can find to give you a little edge will put you slightly ahead of your competitors.

In regards to your second question, a 50/50 revshare means both the affiliate and site owner are in the same boat revenue wise. It's in both your interest to maximize your sales, but assuming everything else is equal, if you can optimize your landing pages better, you stand to make a better profit. With that being said, a large portion of my business is based on PPC SE's, mostly for the stability that traditional search engines can't offer, so it definitely is a viable option.

Cheers.
WG

lol, I dont get that one either.

KRL if you were going to start a dating service would you hit the general sector like a match.com and go for everyone, or would you try to niche it out and go for a smaller sector like say jdate or swingers personals?

since theres no content involved I dont know if it's dumb to cut the audience down and the profit potential, or if it's a smart move to niche because you have a more eager audience.

KRL we have a free membership dating site with over 30,000 members, active members posting on message board as well as its very own instant messenger. Got any ideas to expand its opportunities? hit me up 63125103

Real ones?
Dam and you saved up 50K already? Good work

I dont play with adwords much but I understood you could not have exit on them?

From your Daddy.:1orglaugh

Still keeping an eye out for that ring right?

We're testing a variety of sectors. Overall it seems to be there's a lot more men looking than there are women.

E-mail the URL or post it to see.

[email protected]

Question to escortbiz. Why dont you do a pay per join program?

Thanks for the info - this thread is becoming very valuable. What a greaty night for GFY business usefulness. :) Now I "just" need to crank out some well targeted FPAs with several strategic exit consoles and alternate filters.

True - but in this case the affiliate is the one paying for the PPC so there is no risk for the site owner.

you've got mail

Adwords does not. Other PPC engines allow 1-2 exit consoles.
WG

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sure

on ebay just look around what others sell for

local I would test different pricing, you def want to be able to provide documentation that the watch is authentic

SE
Strong trades with people who have traffic that match the niche

Def have to break even right away for it to be worth it, especially with my niche stuff if a TGP cant break even right away its not worth it for me.

Rebills from TGP traffic dont come in as nice as SE traffic, simply because the TGP surfer likes to cancel right away before even checking out the members area, fear of recurring, thats why all my sites sell the one time memberships well to.

If I wanted to mount a 45 inch plasma or LCD TV on the wall in my master bedroom, which kind do you recommend I get?

Google
Overture
FindWhat

I know many affiliates who make a nice living using PPC to promote programs, it takes lots of patience constant tweaking and very important to go after specific terms and not so much the broad terms everyone is after.

You have to research the niche and see what others words people use to refer to it, what lines people would type in, too many just go to the inventory.overture and rely on that too much.

You can make a killing if you are creative and take the time.

for now on hold

would really appreciate that

def think anything that annoys surfers is bad for everyone.

but when affiliate programs are trying to give big per signups payouts they get desperate, especially the ones who have sites loaded with bad content they really are desperate.

I do believe in a last chance popup, 1 popup if the surfer leaves the signup page to offer them to join for a lower price.

I use that on all my sites.

hiring a content provider without doing more research on them.

1. I started a gay paysite and it was doing pretty well converting at 1:400, but then I got nervous about obscenity laws and I pulled the plug on it. Do you think theres anything we need to be concerned about with laws or am I being paranoid? It was just a standard hardcore site, nothing weird.
I miss the site and the profit potential and I'd like to fire it back up again.

Every site is different and If I was you for the sake of being able to sleep at night I would have an industry attorney like richard chapo or lawrence walter etc. look it over, provide any advice on changes etc.

I am very paranoid in general so im not the right guy to ask about paranoia lol but I think everyone should be concered just for that 1% chance that they are planning something etc. Its def worth to do whatever you can to protect yourself.

2. If you were starting out today as a new site maker what niche would you pick?

Def some of the same niches im in now, spanking, ass licking, medical etc. I try to avoid all the common niches simply because its harder to get listed on TGP's MGP's, harder to convert since there is so much of it out there, harder to get any good SE traffic and many more reasons, but again most people including myself once upon a time like to do what everyone else is doing.

3. Do you think softcore content can make as much money as hardcore?
I mean if I were to film content I dont want to have to deal with hardcore shoots and hiv tests and all that. I'd rather just have a model masturbate on camera. But is that something that surfers wont pay for?

The key is targetted traffic and you can sell anything, its like a BBW site sells but not with teen traffic.

Surfers sure will pay for solo, there are some huge sites that are solo masterbation, by the way softcore is really where girls do nothing more then pose etc. masterbating is not hardcore but def way easier to sell then some model standing undressing and thats it.

Dating and anything that give a surfer hope of meeting for real will always sell.

Yes there are tons of dating sites but if you are creative and come up with different features you can def make decent money.

Im sure your stuff retains.. why not?

wow good stuff thanks

yup, how serious is it?