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Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 10:14 AM

Okay, if I see one more of you shitheads offering helpful tips to newbies I am going to bitch slap you. Most of you don't view other webmasters as competition but they most definitely are competition.

Let's say you open up a restaurant. A couple of months after you are up and running, someone wants to open another similar restaurant across the street from you. This would-be restaurateur stops by one day for some tips. Now here's where things get good. In real life, you'd be evasive, vague, possibly downright rude with this person.

Since we're online and other webmasters aren't viewed as competition some of you are willing to share the knowledge and experience you have gained over the years to expedite and simplify this person's trek into adult webmasterhood.

Helping out newbies is like taking the new restaurant owner under your wing, showing him your expenses, income, distributor lists, recipes, and telling him which dishes your customers like the best. Would you do that in a brick & mortar business? I think not.

We're all vying for the same surfers attention. Helping another webmaster attain those surfers is downright stupid.

pornstar2pac · 06-12-2004, 10:15 AM

sig sale day is on the 27th newbies

Doctor Dre · 06-12-2004, 10:17 AM

I dont care helping newbies because I know 99 % will NOT and NEVER do as good as I do ...

I mean this whole business is full of amateurs ... The only thing that is good is networking ...

I mean who the fuck use CSS in this business ... we are years behind on everything .

Just think about it, newbs are still 5 years behind you anyways ... not really competition if you are at a certain level .

And I got another question for you : How did you start out in this business ?

My guess is that some people helped you out

Doctor Dre · 06-12-2004, 10:18 AM

And the 1 % that will be successfull will just help the industry become better since they bring something new .

pornstar2pac · 06-12-2004, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
And the 1 % that will be successfull will just help the industry become better since they bring something new .

Thanks for the mentioned.

just a punk · 06-12-2004, 10:20 AM

Many partnership program owners are browsing this forum you know. They are interested in recruiting as many gallery posters as possible. Even if these posters are newbies, but not the experienced ones like you ;)

AMADude · 06-12-2004, 10:20 AM

Grammar Police....
YOU are a noobie.

Basic_man · 06-12-2004, 10:21 AM

no more newbies!

BAN THE NEWBIES! :D

Doctor Dre · 06-12-2004, 10:21 AM

Oh and one last thing ... when theses newbies grow up, and become succesfull (Ive been in there for years ... Ive seen a lot of people come and go), they always remember you . The day you need something most of them will be there for you too .

sake · 06-12-2004, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
And the 1 % that will be successfull will just help the industry become better since they bring something new .

Well said.

Internet God · 06-12-2004, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by Grammar Police
Okay, if I see one more of you shitheads offering helpful tips to newbies I am going to bitch slap you. Most of you don't view other webmasters as competition but they most definitely are competition.

Let's say you open up a restaurant. A couple of months after you are up and running, someone wants to open another similar restaurant across the street from you. This would-be restaurateur stops by one day for some tips. Now here's where things get good. In real life, you'd be evasive, vague, possibly downright rude with this person.

Since we're online and other webmasters aren't viewed as competition some of you are willing to share the knowledge and experience you have gained over the years to expedite and simplify this person's trek into adult webmasterhood.

Helping out newbies is like taking the new restaurant owner under your wing, showing him your expenses, income, distributor lists, recipes, and telling him which dishes your customers like the best. Would you do that in a brick & mortar business? I think not.

We're all vying for the same surfers attention. Helping another webmaster attain those surfers is downright stupid.

You are 100% correct. Well said.

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
And the 1 % that will be successfull will just help the industry become better since they bring something new .

That's a dangerous and stupid attitude.

Internet God · 06-12-2004, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Oh and one last thing ... when theses newbies grow up, and become succesfull (Ive been in there for years ... Ive seen a lot of people come and go), they always remember you . The day you need something most of them will be there for you too .

lol

So you teach them and they end up doing better than you...and the only thing you can hope for is they will throw you some scraps because you showed them the ropes.

Man, that's pretty fucking lame.

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by AMADude
Grammar Police....
YOU are a noobie.

Judging from your photography skills (or lack thereof), the same could be said for you.

Global Dialers · 06-12-2004, 10:26 AM

todays newbie is tomorrows cannon fodder

iwantchixx · 06-12-2004, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by cyberxxx
Many partnership program owners are browsing this forum you know. They are interested in recruiting as many gallery posters as possible. Even if these posters are newbies, but not the experienced ones like you ;)

a good program looks for things OTHER than just gallery posters

Gallery is 10 percent of the revenue.

just a punk · 06-12-2004, 10:28 AM

Using this excellent opportunity I'm gonna invite all the newbies to visit our site (see sig.) and pick up as many sponsors with FHG galleries as they want, also read all those useful manuals that gathered there ;)

loverboy · 06-12-2004, 10:28 AM

sorry, i just can't help it

monaro · 06-12-2004, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMADude
Grammar Police....
YOU are a noobie.

I think so also, because even the best have given myself a tip or two when i started out.

Thank you Kevin Ho.

just a punk · 06-12-2004, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by iwantchixx
a good program looks for things OTHER than just gallery posters

Gallery is 10 percent of the revenue.

Agreed.

AMADude · 06-12-2004, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Grammar Police
Judging from your photography skills (or lack thereof), the same could be said for you.

I have been in this business for 5 yrs.
I am not a photographer, I do it for fun. I am not the one that shoots for ama.

Why dont you check out my pics....
can you do better?
http://www.onemodelplace.com/member.cfm?P_ID=5980

What do you do in this biz?

devilspost · 06-12-2004, 10:33 AM

There is no money in porn get out now!

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by cyberxxx
Using this excellent opportunity I gonna invite all the newbies to visit our site (see sig.) and pick up as many sponsors with FHG galleries as they want, also read all these useful manuals that gathered there ;)

You have found the only thing that can be done with newbies. You make money off them. If you can do that, then more power to you. Let's be honest though, there isn't anything on your site that is educational or profound in any way. It's all about making yourself more money.

Designers, content providers, programmers, etc can ignore this thread. You sell things to newbies that you KNOW they won't be able to properly utilize. You exploit the newbies visions of grandeur for profit and for that I applaud you.

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMADude
I have been in this business for 5 yrs.
I am not a photographer, I do it for fun. I am not the one that shoots for ama.

Why dont you check out my pics....
can you do better?
http://www.onemodelplace.com/member.cfm?P_ID=5980

What do you do in this biz?

I can't do better. I pay people for quality content though. Yours is not what I would consider quality.

Holly · 06-12-2004, 10:48 AM

Can I at least wait tables at your restaurant, or be a cocktail waitress or something?

just a punk · 06-12-2004, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMADude
I have been in this business for 5 yrs.
I am not a photographer, I do it for fun. I am not the one that shoots for ama.

Why dont you check out my pics....
can you do better?
http://www.onemodelplace.com/member.cfm?P_ID=5980

What do you do in this biz?

I believe he is just a poster. 2Grammar Police: can you dissuade me?

D_Nell · 06-12-2004, 10:49 AM

Um yeah 300 posts. YOu are so High Up in the FOOD CHAIN!

just a punk · 06-12-2004, 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by Grammar Police
You have found the only thing that can be done with newbies. You make money off them.

Correct. I also have a partnership proram and web design studio. So I know how to make the money - be sure

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Originally posted by Grammar Police
If you can do that, then more power to you. Let's be honest though, there isn't anything on your site that is educational or profound in any way. It's all about making yourself more money.

There isn't anything educational at my site? Are you sure??? Just open your eyes and go to http://www.fhgstore.com/articles.html - I hope you can read English...

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
Designers, content providers, programmers, etc can ignore this thread. You sell things to newbies that you KNOW they won't be able to properly utilize. You exploit the newbies visions of grandeur for profit and for that I applaud you.

Why should we ignore this thread? IMHO it's very funny

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by D_Nell
Um yeah 300 posts. YOu are so High Up in the FOOD CHAIN!

So postcount determines one's position in the food chain? My mistake. I thought it was income.

TGP owners crack me up. How's your day job, dipshit? Made enough money to stop using free scripts yet? Obviously not.

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by cyberxxx

There isn't anything educational at my site? Are you sure??? Just open your eyes and go to http://www.fhgstore.com/articles.html - I hope you can read English...

Find me something to read there that isn't

a) News copied and pasted from somewhere else.

or

b) Common sense.

MaDalton · 06-12-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by D_Nell
Um yeah 300 posts. YOu are so High Up in the FOOD CHAIN!

does postcount on GFY really tell how successful you are in the business? or let me say it that way: how can you be successful when you do nothing but posting?
I bet there are lots of people around here with not more than 100 postings that have much more money than you can ever dream of.

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cyberxxx
I believe he is just a poster. 2Grammar Police: can you dissuade me?

Why do you feel that would be in my best interest? What makes you think your opinion is worth more to me than a squirt of piss?

MaDalton · 06-12-2004, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
So postcount determines one's position in the food chain? My mistake. I thought it was income.

TGP owners crack me up. How's your day job, dipshit? Made enough money to stop using free scripts yet? Obviously not.

sorry - you can certainly speak for yourself

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by MaDalton
sorry - you can certainly speak for yourself

Internet God · 06-12-2004, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by D_Nell
Um yeah 300 posts. YOu are so High Up in the FOOD CHAIN!

My god, you are a COMPLETE FUCKING MORON.

just a punk · 06-12-2004, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
Find me something to read there that isn't

a) News copied and pasted from somewhere else.

or

b) Common sense.

AMADude · 06-12-2004, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
Why do you feel that would be in my best interest? What makes you think your opinion is worth more to me than a squirt of piss?

And what makes you think your opinion is worth more than a squirt of piss to us?
Its not.

monaro · 06-12-2004, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
So postcount determines one's position in the food chain? My mistake. I thought it was income.

TGP owners crack me up. How's your day job, dipshit? Made enough money to stop using free scripts yet? Obviously not.

I can see your point on not showing all your cards, but to give a tip or a pointer or two(2) eg; Don't buy traffic from this guy. ie. blah blah. That is just looking out for someone whom of which is new to earning money online.

There is a long road ahead for everyone who is just starting out! There are newbie lessons on all the time. I like to sit in as I am still after what 6 to 8 years very much wet behind my ears.
If somebody asks for some advise do you tell them to go jump, go talk to person x and leave me alone? I don't think that person will ever be back to buy what ever your selling.
Even if you cook up the finest meal in the street!

If there is a question that I feel that I can answer in some way I will spend the time where needed to help the person who asked. Each question is handled by each new webmaster can be handled differently each and every time.

Its up to you how you go about it!

tdp-Cool-content · 06-12-2004, 11:09 AM

one word: Open Source

just a punk · 06-12-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Grammar Police
Why do you feel that would be in my best interest? What makes you think your opinion is worth more to me than a squirt of piss?

No, there is nothing more I'd like to say. If you remember, I just said: "you are just a poster". And I was right. Isn't is?

FYI: Not all the people here are the posters so they may have different goals you know

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by cyberxxx
I didn't say about the news. I've just suggested you to read some EDUCATIONAL manuals there. Ok, some examples for those who can't read English enough:
http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=3637&cat=42
http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=3760&cat=42
http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=3661&cat=42
http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=3557&cat=42
http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=3335&cat=42
http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=3305&cat=42
http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=3166&cat=42
http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=3735&cat=47
http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=3757&cat=47
http://www.fhgstore.com/showarticle.html?id=3694&cat=41

Are them not educational enough for you??? So whose are educational ones in such a case?..

No, "them" are common sense. "Them" are stating the obvious. "Them" are geared towards braindead AOL level wannabe adult webmasters. I'm assuming that's your target demographic though, right?

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AMADude
And what makes you think your opinion is worth more than a squirt of piss to us?
Its not.

That would be believable if you didn't keep coming back to the thread to read my replies.

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cyberxxx
No, there is nothing more I'd like to say. If you remember, I just said: "you are just a poster". And I was right. Isn't is?

FYI: Not all the people here are the posters so they may have different goals you know

Yes, you caught me. I'm just a poster.

scottie0779 · 06-12-2004, 11:15 AM

Tape that post to the wall and re-read it the next time YOU go to learn something new... And don't come asking us newbs for help, we'll just forward you a copy of your post by email with a "FU" attached

Punk

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by scottie0779
Tape that post to the wall and re-read it the next time YOU go to learn something new... And don't come asking us newbs for help, we'll just forward you a copy of your post by email with a "FU" attached Punk

I'm sure you're just a wealth of information. I can assure you that I will never need anything from you. I doubt you can find your own ass with both hands.

just a punk · 06-12-2004, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
No, "them" are common sense. "Them" are stating the obvious. "Them" are geared towards braindead AOL level wannabe adult webmasters. I'm assuming that's your target demographic though, right?

Wow! You have discovered a mistake in my post! You can know the difference between "them" and "they". You are sooo cool dude. I really hope you can make REALLY BIG money with your great talent!

As about the manuals... They are very educational for the newbies (even for such stupid ones like me). As I already saild earlier: not everyone here is such an "experienced" poster like you.

PatrickKing · 06-12-2004, 11:21 AM

If you are confident in the strength of your own abilities , you would not fear helping people who are just starting out.

Everyone is a noob at something.

scottie0779 · 06-12-2004, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammar Police
I'm sure you're just a wealth of information. I can assure you that I will never need anything from you. I doubt you can find your own ass with both hands.

Nope. Somebody just told me the proper way to be successful here is to make idle threats and start brawls with people you don't know

Grammar Police · 06-12-2004, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by scottie0779
Nope. Somebody just told me the proper way to be successful here is to make idle threats and start brawls with people you don't know

It worked for me.

Global Dialers · 06-12-2004, 11:26 AM

hmmm so many options..

serge or lee noga is who im going to stick with though for now

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Grammar Police So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 727	Stop helping newbies, morons! Okay, if I see one more of you shitheads offering helpful tips to newbies I am going to bitch slap you. Most of you don't view other webmasters as competition but they most definitely are competition. Let's say you open up a restaurant. A couple of months after you are up and running, someone wants to open another similar restaurant across the street from you. This would-be restaurateur stops by one day for some tips. Now here's where things get good. In real life, you'd be evasive, vague, possibly downright rude with this person. Since we're online and other webmasters aren't viewed as competition some of you are willing to share the knowledge and experience you have gained over the years to expedite and simplify this person's trek into adult webmasterhood. Helping out newbies is like taking the new restaurant owner under your wing, showing him your expenses, income, distributor lists, recipes, and telling him which dishes your customers like the best. Would you do that in a brick & mortar business? I think not. We're all vying for the same surfers attention. Helping another webmaster attain those surfers is downright stupid.

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just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,386	Using this excellent opportunity I'm gonna invite all the newbies to visit our site (see sig.) and pick up as many sponsors with FHG galleries as they want, also read all those useful manuals that gathered there ;) __________________ Obey the Cowgod Last edited by just a punk; 06-12-2004 at 10:31 AM..

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