xenigo

Honestly I think guns are pointless peices of shit, meant for killing people. But lately I'm starting to realize my security needs to be increased, because there's a lot of weirdo's calling, and the occasional weirdo gets through my phone screening process. Seems like once a week something somewhat scary happens, and I feel like my security could have been compromised.

Anyway, some people have suggested I buy a gun. Should I? If I go out and plunk down a couple hundred on a 9mm, what am I going to do with it... wear it on my hip? I honestly think I just want a higher profile display of power and authority, so it can curb anyone's thought they can overtake me for cash or whatever. I'm kind of afraid of getting robbed at this point.

goBigtime

Not unless you will use it.

Babaganoosh

Heh, it'll be a lot more than a couple hundred.

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buddyjuf

no, especially if you have kids in the house

xenigo

Well, I don't know how much they cost.

xenigo

I have no kids, no wife, and no girlfriend. It's just me.

dennisthemenace

If you're kind of anti-gun to begin with, perhaps a vicious dog would be more up your alley.

If you can own a gun responsibly, learn how to use it properly and such - they're not a bad "plan B" if things get out of hand.

Nothing says security like a shotgun though..

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xenigo

Yeah my brother said I should mount one under my desk.

Magg

Are you aloud to wear it on your hip in a holster?

Can it just not be showing (except in texas)? or are you not allowed to bring one out in public?


Im thinking about getting one too, but I need to be able to carry it on my person; If I get a shoulder strap holster, will it be legal?

I'd have a coat over it of course, or could I get a hip holster and put my shirt over it in public - or could i let it show?

xenigo

From what I understand, any sort of concealment requires a concealed weapon permit. Those are difficult to get, as far as I know.

Mr Pheer

a gun that only costs a couple hundred is likely to blow up in your hand

Magg

ok, what if i dont conceal it? I dont care if it shows or if it doesnt..


Can I wear it as long as it isnt concealed?

doober

i would look at the source of the problem and try to fix that first.
Where is all this heat coming from?

maybe you shouldn't atttract all these morons and invite them into your home in the first place



something to think about

dennisthemenace

it is NOT hard to get a carry permit at all. You take a cakewalk class, take a lame test, fire some rounds, do some paperwork, get fingerprinted, get your picture taken, done.

It's frighteningly easy.

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StarkReality

I wouldn't buy a gun, loads of people get killed with their own guns or get shot because they point a gun at someone and he's faster...you may feel safer with one, but a dog is much better, if someone comes to your house and sees or hears a dog, he'll prolly just leave and not even try to touch ya.

In addition, a dog is fun and you have to go out of the house several times a day...better than any fitness club !

Magg

Whats the age requirement?

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dennisthemenace

I believe it's dependent on the state.. 18 or 21 likely.

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xenigo

Right-wing Christian extremists, and perhaps those upset if they try to rob me. I dunno, I'm just thinking ahead here. I haven't pissed anyone off yet.

bill555

go to packing.org That has the state laws and procederes for getting a conceal carry permitt.

I got mine last June when the new law passed here in minnesota. It was cool to carry for about a month.

It's bulky. you hit doorways. Gets annoying. Pretty much i just keep it in my car now.

I would go with a .40 Handgun. 9mm is a pretty weak round.

you can get something decent for around 400-700.

bill555

oh forget it. you're in california. Its a may issue state. meaning you must show a need, and prove it. Completely up to your police department

They can deny it for any reason.

Buddah00

Yes, you need a gun for protection. As long as that is what it is for, too many people get a gun and get into situations they normally would not. False sense of security, don't get a 9mm though. For personal protection a .40cal is the way to go. I recommend Glock or SpringfieldXD. You should be able to get one for around $600.

Carlito

Hey, if Kerry has a chance getting elected, i`d say buy a whole lot of illegal guns. If you buy legal guns and Kerry gets elected and does what he wants, they will come to your door and demand the guns.

He has not SAID he wants to do this, however, he has voted for EVERY act of gun restriction that has ever gone by his blank face.

Carlito

it is illegal to carry a gun in all states, without a permit, permits are extremely hard to obtain in most states, but some states like missouri, its just a test.

Carlito

Guns don`t do this.

Carlito

Some people have been sued because their dog bit a criminal as he ran thru their backyard.

AdultNex

A glock? Wtf, it's not like he's living in the Bronx.

Buddah00

Where you live has nothing to do with it. if you are going to have a firearm for protection you want to make sure it works

Groove

Get a can of Mace or a dog.

xenigo

What's wrong with Glock anyway? What do you suggest?

Buddah00

Could go with an H&K if you wanted to invest more money

Froey Twe

2 words, Desert Eagle

Buddah00

The Desert Eagle is to big ....and not very accurate Too much gun to carry for personal protection

sarettah

Go with a shotgun... The sound of a shotgun being cocked will scare an intruder more than the actual gun.

Mossberg has some really nice models in both 12 and 20 guage and they can be had for around 250-300 new and less at the shows..


Guns...It's the Merican way

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sarettah

wrong.

It is illegal to CONCEAL in most states. It is perfectly legal in most places to carry a gun.

You will get stopped every 50 feet, but you won't get arrested unless you brandish it.

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Buddah00

You would be surprised how many states have liberal conceal carry permits. If you have no felonies or domestic violence charges

Carlito

Sorry, thats what I meant - usually when people carry, its loaded, and being in California I know how that goes.

Carlito

I cant even have more than a ten shot clip for my mini 30. More than three shells in my shotguns, etc. Shitty.

stephanie m.

I love ruegers. If you have the money, desert eagles are NOICE!




god i think i just came in my panites looking at that eagle!

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latinasojourn

carrying a concealed weapon is problematic, but if you live in a place that someone might want to break into while you are there you should have lethal force and know how to use it.

statistically when someone breaks into your house if you are female you will be awakened by someone who is already in your bedroom, too late to grab for the gun.

best scenario for home safety:

have a dog who is a light sleeper and will bark loudly to waken you if a stranger enters your home---this seperates the friends with a key from foes.

have either a shotgun or revolver as a weapon, they are the most foolproof, you should be awake now and be standing with the gun in a position so that opening of the bedroom door will conceal you.

the intruder enters and goes toward your bed, you are now behind him.

now do what you have to do, aiming for the legs to disable but not kill.

if this is not possible have a "safe room" you can quickly get into that contains your gun and cellphone (many times home invaders will cut your phone line)---get a 911 call off and warn anyone breaking down the door that they will be killed by a shotgun blast, stand away from the door and let them know police are on the way.

only a fool would break down the door and risk being killed.

(have been robbed at gunpoint twice in SF Bay area, and the second scenario was probably the only thing that keep me alive during a business robbery)

xenigo

Holy shit. What part of the bay area?? I'm in North Beach.

KRL

I've got guns, knives, K-9 trained dogs, 12" solid steel slam bars, baseball bats, customized chemical sprays, and stun devices.

Anywhere I go I make sure several of these defense options are always close at hand. I'm ready to use any of them without hesitation and have before.

Bring it on. I'm ready for any kind of fucktard.

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latinasojourn

haha,

well if you are in north beach you are probably in a high dollar apt bldg with good security and zero jig factor.

i was robbed in east oakland at gunpoint on macarthur blvd walking with my (black) girlfriend in 1972.

the following year i was the manager of a small business in berkeley on channing way and telegraph av. the business was held up by two black guys who had handguns.

i locked myself in the office (it was closing time and i was counting the days receipts) and told them that we were closed for the night and i could see him holding the gun through the peephole. i them told them i was ready to blow their heads off if they came through the door and the police were on their way. they immediately left.

xxxdesign-net

actually... the large majority of robbers wont shoot you... however.. if you resist and use a gun on them.. you better not miss them or you are dead...

xenigo

Damn, you're hardcore

latinasojourn

very true. if you are walking down the street and someone pulls a gun on you just hand over your wallet.

but it's a different deal if someone takes the time to break into your house at night, and your wife and minor children are with you.

someone who does that needs to understand that there is a very good chance he will be killed.

and that's the time you NEED lethal force. i don't like it, but shit happens, and when you need it, you must have it.

KRL

Damn straight. You gotta be. We live in that kind of world. When you have bucks you're especially a target. I don't fuck around when it comes to security. I've had idiots try to break into my homes, mess with me, etc. before and they got a big surprise.

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damn you sound like one crazy fucker, but glad to hear you're still alive

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