how much is too much

Isn't the premis of the tgp to serve as a come on to get the surfer to join the site it advertises? We have been thinking that when we really start submitting we'll probably get rejected by some tgp sites due to we're thinking we want to include some text along the lines of Even juicier images inside this site!
It looks like with the new Fed Regs (an rightly so maybe) that the more hard content will have to be behind closed doors. Thinking of the tours and such being softened. And face it, -we- have a responsibility to help keep kids seeing too much too. Just adding net nanny links doesn't cut it.
I work as a union rep and have polled many women lately in factories. Their kids have puters and the parents have NO clue how to get net nanny or in fact that such things exist. We need to watch what we do now or the tgp's will end up with federally ordered black dots........... Something to consider we think. Praying this one doesn't strikethru like other posts!

One other thing...hosting offshore will NOT prevent prosecution. I hope folks realize that. The UK has some laws about the 'citizens' themselves and its too easy to trace a site back to the owner. I think they WILL push this thing moreso in the next couple of years.

Anyone else think something along these lines?

Richard's Realm will reject a gallery for "not enough nudity." Heh. I personally think there is a big market for lingerie pictures that don't show any nudity or just a bit of nudity.

As for hardcore, I don't think it matters if a gallery has hardcore or softcore pics. Any porn surfer who goes to the big TGPs everyday will see the exact same photos day after day and eventually give in and purchase a membership to a quality site that is updated with fresh photos sets every day or several times a week.

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Rather a monetary reason than a moral reason, Ive been using less hardcore on my galleries too. When I use less hardcore on my galleries, I find that they convert a lot better. Ill post the softer pics leading up to the money shot....leaving the surfer wanting more.

On my teen galleries Ill show pics of the girls getting undressed...but try not to show the pink...make the surfer have to pay for it!

Plus I guess it's good to keep the Wholesome Christians and Republicans from seeing too much. We know how much they love it...and you know they do! They fuckin jerk off then feel guilty for sinning! Fucking Bastards!!

Fuck Fuck Fuck them all!

I hate hardcore and doing only Teen galary
every beauty girls like to show body, I only help them and earned some money.

Say what?

I now 1 bloke that get 5 sign ups per day with max cash doing bikini sites But hes a king of of SE traffic.

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The harder I work the luckyer I get.

I have found a nice mix of using a softcore set of pics on a gallery, like a girl getting undressed and the sponsor's ad being hardcore, like a couple fucking, works well for me.

I try to have gallery content that matches the banner theme. If I have AP banners on my gallery, then the gallery contains amateur pics. I have tried other different combinations, but the results get a bit worse.

I like to use a hc banner on a soft gallery. I think of it like wathing a preview for a movie, here's the hot chick naked - sign up to see her getting poked.

BUT:

If the parents don't know about netnanny maybe they shouldn't have a computer. I'm going with George Carlin on this "When did the fucking world start revolving around kids? 'It takes a village to raise a child', fuck you, raise your own kids."

The internet isn't for children, it's marketed that way by they PC companies with their "your kids will grow up retarded if you don't buy them this" marketing, but it's not true and it never was. What are the ratio of websites for kids vs. the websites for adults (not just porn, CNN isn't for kids)? Now take out all the websites for kids that are just advertisements (buyme sites) and compare again. They keep talking about making .porn or something - they need to make a .kid and a browser that will only work on those sites and the problem's solved.

Let's see W. come up with that.

I wasn't putting this industry back by anything I said. I look at all of us as proprietors of 'shops'. Hmmmm, ok
Parents can't have their kids in eyeshot every waking moment. They go off on their own adventures, net or RT. So if on this adventure, they wander into a gun store, the proprietor has to deal with it. Sure, the parents probably told them not to every do that, but....
I guess I don't think with my wallet in my hand first. As adults we all have a job to do tho. I was brought up in the time when a neighbor saw me screw up, they'd paddle my ass as well as tell my mom. lol We didn't carry guns, we didn't peddle drugs and we sat giggling when I found my big brothers Playboy.
I know that time is gone. Have ethics, responsibilities and all that go with it gone too? I hope not. The laws? We aren't going to stop them from happening. We're going to have to try and work out a medium ground and the sooner we all work on that the better. Or else the laws that happen will be a lot more restrictive. Don't let them totally dictate to us. If the powers that be see that we are making an effort it may go better for us. I'd rather see income coming in ten years from now then sitting back and whining about what I 'used to make'.
I guess thats from a female, ex dancers point of view. I wasn't a stripper but I knew them well. Worked right next to a place in fact. And do ya know, on good nights in 1989, *I* made 600 bucks. The strippers were lucky to pull 200. Average nights were 150-200 while the strippers were at 50-100. The imagination is the most powerful sale tool we have.
Oh well there will always be the uncaring people in any trade. It takes time but they will always be weeded out so more can take their place. lol The old man and I plan to be here when the ones that don't follow the unwritten rule are gone. Look how well Lens does and I certainly don't see him wagging the nasties out and about for all to see freely. He's playing a well thought out plan ahead of the game. <S> We had that same basic idea when we first came back in to the field.
Hookers use the same rule. Up front or no candy gets unwrapped. We have to play that abit different and entice surfers abit different since we can't spray phermones or be close enough for them to feel the body heat. Why pay to see a baseball game AFTER you're leaving?
Lets just hope after some folks have their own kids they see the same things. Grabbing the money and running nets you a short term position.
Gem hops off her soap box now. And yes, the next time I see the kid across the street playing with daddys 9mm in the yard will get involved. Its my duty as a human. Even if I *am* abit warped in the moral depts. lol

[This message has been edited by Gemini (edited 02-16-2001).]

Sorry I tried to fix the strikethru. Darn things. lol

Although I have been lurking for quite some time I finally registered yesterday....first post. I'd like to, first, wish everyone here a hearty Go Fuck Yourself! I agree with those that contend that we have an obligation to society as a whole to market our products responsibly. If not a legal obligation than at least an obligation to human decency. A lack of respect for others and a every man/woman for themselves kind of attitude equates to a horrible existence for all, and as for Warphead's statement of fuck the "it takes a village" to raise a child, raise your own children...what a terribly sad and bitter statement. I hope that you were speaking out of frustration to the imposing censorship on our trade (nobody could blame you for that), IT IS up to parents first and foremost to protect their own, but, please remember that today's children are adults in the making and it is in ALL of our best interests for kids to grow up the least fucked up as possible. In today's world that is the best we can hope for. The Cleaver's are dead, Father doesn't always know best, blah, blah, blah. By the way, as it is my first post and nobody really knows me, I don't want to come off as hypocritical. I'm a smut peddler to most...I know this...Don't know if I'm making the world better or worse (most would argue worse) so I would never presume my way of living is the right way. Just my humble opinion on the subject

I found this TGP http://www.y2snake.com/ That snake started that ONLY posts softporn galleries, no cock, no pussy, you can only show bare butt and tits. I submitted one gallery to it, but do you think this might be a wave of the future?

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The amount of hard material should depend on the type of site you are selling and on the traffic you are aiming your gallery page at. If its not appropriate to the genre/niche then you may discourage potential converts. Also too many or two few images can discourage sales. You want the surfer too be strongly interested but not overwhelmed or bored.
At my site I place softcore galleries and hardcore gallery links on seperate pages which hopefully helps the surfer to direct his interest (and credit card) straight to the object of his interst.

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I would have to agree with you on that...

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I also agree, personally when I do amateur I like to show everyhting but the triangle if it gets posted then great, but I do some harder stuff too.

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The bad thing is free movies. If TGPs could stick to pictures, everything would be fine -- even hardcore. But to show hundreds of movies, even hardcore stuff, seems rather pointless if your goal is to get members to whip out the ole credit card.

It goes too far when you actually show the cumshot.

it's always good to diversify try it and if it doesn't work drop it...

OLD as the HILLS this thread is.

Fuck people, look at the date before getting owned.

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of coarse no under age shit.

that sums it up.