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Old 06-10-2004, 10:22 AM   #1
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How do you feel about the black porn niche?

Just wondering..
as a webmaster who makes his sole income from the black porn niche.

How do you feel about it, did you even know it existed?
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:25 AM   #2
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Just wondering..
as a webmaster who makes his sole income from the black porn niche.

How do you feel about it, did you even know it existed?
Aak that question to Amp.

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Old 06-10-2004, 10:27 AM   #3
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i feel like they have a high chargeback rate, inst that why you closed your site?
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:30 AM   #4
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I think that black porn as a niche works.. just promote it in the right place..

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Old 06-10-2004, 10:31 AM   #5
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It's harder to convert because alot of whites don't find the girls attractive, and it's a bit harder to get blacks to spend that money on a porn sign up. I've had much better sucess using black traffic for products that are tangible.
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:31 AM   #6
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No Probilling closed my account..
wasn't a choice I made

I just made a bad decision of picking a processor...
had about 100 transactions about 4-5 chargebacks....

yea that's about 5% but still feel like I was running a successful site.

You can't stop people from doing what they want to do...

A year later, and I see that probilling can't even process credit cards anymore, all Online Checks

Also notice they don't post or advertise on this board anymore
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:32 AM   #7
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:36 AM   #8
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5% CB ratio on a new paysite is really really high,
probilling arent the only ones that would have canned your account.
You realize in the USA you can NOT go over 1% CB ratio right?
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:37 AM   #9
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It's harder to convert because alot of whites don't find the girls attractive, and it's a bit harder to get blacks to spend that money on a porn sign up. I've had much better sucess using black traffic for products that are tangible.
Ha!

thats a HUGE misconception marcu5

I'll tell you about something I've noticed that I call "The Black Stripper Theory"

I've been to several "white" stripclubs and have noticed this...
they could have 15 white strippers, and only 1 or 2 black strippers

These black chicks can be "average"
And still have thong full of tips and a line for private dances....

I've seen it SO MANY TIMES

So I don't believe that "white guys don't find black women attractive" idea
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:39 AM   #10
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there are black niche sites? wow, who would have ever thought.
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:40 AM   #11
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5% CB ratio on a new paysite is really really high,
probilling arent the only ones that would have canned your account.
You realize in the USA you can NOT go over 1% CB ratio right?
Were talking about month 1...
There is a volume limit to the chargeback percentage rule

But it's not worth debating about...

100 sales
and 5 people who downloaded everything they could and charged back

For month 1...

What was I supposed to do cry about it?
I look at it like a success...

nothing in life is ever going to be perfect
that 95% success rate felt good to me...
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:40 AM   #12
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Black people have sex?

Woa!
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:43 AM   #13
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Black people have sex?

Woa!
personally I think he's just bullshitting us
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:49 AM   #14
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I talk to Platinum from time to time he has actually focused on the Black niche since day one and I seen some of his stuff.

He prolly does pretty well
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:50 AM   #15
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Were talking about month 1...
There is a volume limit to the chargeback percentage rule

But it's not worth debating about...

100 sales
and 5 people who downloaded everything they could and charged back

For month 1...

What was I supposed to do cry about it?
I look at it like a success...

nothing in life is ever going to be perfect
that 95% success rate felt good to me...
A one month old site should have 0 CB unless its a site that has 200 pics and plug in feeds as its only content.

if you look at it exponentially and say it was 1000 signups with 5 % cb factor that would be over 50 CB! something def wrong there.
In either situation it seems to be a big problem
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:59 AM   #16
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A one month old site should have 0 CB unless its a site that has 200 pics and plug in feeds as its only content.

if you look at it exponentially and say it was 1000 signups with 5 % cb factor that would be over 50 CB! something def wrong there.
In either situation it seems to be a big problem
Again..
We really have to look at Probilling...

Maybe it's something on their end..
as you can see they can't even process visa anymore..

So maybe it wasn't a "Platinum Lantern" issue

But again...
I feel good about it..

It was all a learning lesson..
I'm one of those glass half full people..

Still think it was a positive experience
learned a lot...

By the way, what paysites do you run doober?
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Old 06-10-2004, 11:06 AM   #17
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Im not sure that you can just can the whole idea that black content is on the way out - but I think that the key is finding the right model that is appealing.

If the major mags handle it - and black models have been around since porn was first shot, then its pretty safe to say that whoever your buying it from (*or shooting yourself) that you need to reconsider the quality and raise the bar.
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Old 06-10-2004, 11:13 AM   #18
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Again..
We really have to look at Probilling...

Maybe it's something on their end..
as you can see they can't even process visa anymore..

So maybe it wasn't a "Platinum Lantern" issue

But again...
I feel good about it..

It was all a learning lesson..
I'm one of those glass half full people..

Still think it was a positive experience
learned a lot...

By the way, what paysites do you run doober?
i used probilling for about 2000 joins and have a 0.37% cb ratio and maybe 25 returned checks.
You did a learn a lesson but im not sure which one it is lol
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Old 06-10-2004, 11:14 AM   #19
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Ha!

thats a HUGE misconception marcu5

I'll tell you about something I've noticed that I call "The Black Stripper Theory"

I've been to several "white" stripclubs and have noticed this...
they could have 15 white strippers, and only 1 or 2 black strippers

These black chicks can be "average"
And still have thong full of tips and a line for private dances....

I've seen it SO MANY TIMES

So I don't believe that "white guys don't find black women attractive" idea

This is very much true, I've also noticed 'the black stripper theory'. I have my own black stripper theory, but thats for another day. But honestly if you just got approved by lets say the hun, would you use white content or ebony content?
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Old 06-10-2004, 11:16 AM   #20
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I find that Mediterranian men love ebony women. geo target
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Old 06-10-2004, 12:38 PM   #21
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the black porn niche is my main money maker.especially some of the sub niches
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Old 06-10-2004, 12:53 PM   #22
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in my experience, 'ebony' sites featuring black women don't convert worth shit, I own blacked.com and it's never been a top seller. Interracial (black man white woman) converts like God (see sig).
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Old 06-10-2004, 01:17 PM   #23
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Ha!

thats a HUGE misconception marcu5

I'll tell you about something I've noticed that I call "The Black Stripper Theory"

I've been to several "white" stripclubs and have noticed this...
they could have 15 white strippers, and only 1 or 2 black strippers

These black chicks can be "average"
And still have thong full of tips and a line for private dances....

I've seen it SO MANY TIMES

So I don't believe that "white guys don't find black women attractive" idea
im white and i love black chicks !!!
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Old 06-10-2004, 01:20 PM   #24
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I personally am turned off by it.. well, nowdays I'm turned off by almost everything. But I've disliked it since my masturbating days.

Black cock is definately not something I wanna see in a movie... but that's just me, and I probably wouldn't know how to convert that shit at all. White guys on black girls is bearable, black on black or black on white girls is a major turn off.
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