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Odin88 08-10-2004 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
half of africa is infected with the AIDS virus, give it another 10 years and the problem will solve itself.
Not true. All those able and from Africa are simply trying to move to the West. It would be much better for Africa to be a stable continent in my opinion, but the odds of that happening any time soon are slim to none.

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by rambler
First of all we are all part of one race it's called "The human race".
You are being irrational. The human species has a subset of breeds or population groups that we humans have labelled as races for a very long time now. Call them inexistant, or even zorgs if you wish, but know that denying the existence of different human breeds lumps you into a fringe opinion minority.

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Originally posted by rambler
I think Your "realistic" picture of races coming together has no rational evidence to support it, as different breeds have been mixing for centuries to create other breeds.
Some admixture does not make people everywhere of the same race, and does not in any way justify attempting to make them so, therefore you are being irrational again.

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Originally posted by rambler
I believe the term is "evolution" (unless you believe in religion; which has absolutely not a shred of evidence to back it) is the arguement for bringing the races together would be .
How exactly is that an argument for bringing the races together? Evolution is what enabled the various human populations to take on differing genetic traits to begin with. You are being irrational, and laughable.

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Originally posted by rambler
If people want to mix then what do you propose to do to stop it?
The whole precept here is that multiculturalists are the instigators of the change, not us. Therefore you are now being irrelevant.

chupachups 08-10-2004 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Not true. All those able and from Africa are simply trying to move to the West. It would be much better for Africa to be a stable continent in my opinion, but the odds of that happening any time soon are slim to none.

Yes, true that.

rambler 08-10-2004 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
You are being irrational. The human species has a subset of breeds or population groups that we humans have labelled as races for a very long time now. Call them inexistant, or even zorgs if you wish, but know that denying the existence of different human breeds lumps you into a fringe opinion minority.

Some admixture does not make people everywhere of the same race, and does not in any way justify attempting to make them so, therefore you are being irrational again.


How exactly is that an argument for bringing the races together? Evolution is what enabled the various human populations to take on differing genetic traits to begin with. You are being irrational, and laughable.

The whole precept here is that multiculturalists are the instigators of the change, not us. Therefore you are now being irrelevant.

I can see having a rational discussion with you is beyond your mental abilities as, no matter what I say, you will just dismiss it as being irrelevant.

But I will ask you again; what do you propose to do to stop the mixing?(besides whining on an adult webmaster board)

Linguist 08-10-2004 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Gunni

The hammer of Thor being the most popular neo-nazi symbol today, so paganism and nationalism hold hands today (a sad thing for a very interesting religion like that of my ancestors).

Idiot.

So because I'm a pagan and have nordic pendants/am of nordic origin I'm a neo-nazi?

Get a clue. Seriosuly.

Assosiation of symbols like that with neo-nazism is what scaring people away.

chupachups 08-10-2004 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Sjelefall
Idiot.

So because I'm a pagan and have nordic pendants/am of nordic origin I'm a neo-nazi?

Get a clue. Seriosuly.

Assosiation of symbols like that with neo-nazism is what scaring people away.


Did you actually read what he wrote - "a sad thing for a very interesting religion like that of my ancestors" and "Paganism has become a symbol (unfortunately) of noe-nazis"?

Linguist 08-10-2004 04:49 PM

Of course I did read what he wrote.

People like him are generalizing pagans and neo-nazis into the same category.
Following his logic (paganism and neo-nazism holding hands), I'd be labeled a neo-nazi just from how I look.

EDIT: Ok, name calling might have been harsh, but it just angers me when people do this, not only on the board, but in real life too. And no, I'm not whining, just asking some people to get a clue and become more educated about this.
It's the same as calling all muslims terrorists.

Extremists of all sorts should be hung by nuts.

chupachups 08-10-2004 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Sjelefall
Of course I did read what he wrote.

People like him are generalizing pagans and neo-nazis into the same category.
Following his logic (paganism and neo-nazism holding hands), I'd be labeled a neo-nazi just from how I look.

No I dont think so, he is saying the same thing as you.... anyways... sad development, I think so too.

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by rambler
I can see having a rational discussion with you is beyond your mental abilities as, no matter what I say, you will just dismiss it as being irrelevant.
I explain the reasoning behind my opinions and conclusions, therefore enabling you to argument against them at will. You are being a sore loser who want to end the match.

And what was that I said about attacking persons instead of arguments? It's not very productive for your image.

Please, don't admit defeat yet. All I asked for was a rational reason for what we know as multiculturalism, preferably one that justifies its widely admitted negative consequences (conflict, hate, racism, and less admitted or realized; loss of diversity in the long run).

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Originally posted by rambler
But I will ask you again; what do you propose to do to stop the mixing?(besides whining on an adult webmaster board)
For myself, I will make money and try to find ways to combat the negative trend.

As for a general proposal; let your opinions be known, and if your opinions are illegal (as it is in many European countries), let your opinions be known together with other people, in as public a venue you can find.

Linguist 08-10-2004 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
No I dont think so, he is saying the same thing as you.... anyways... sad development, I think so too.
Right, it can be interpreted both ways, especially the "*whatever famous nazi* instead of "odin" or thor" part, him being certain that 88 means something about hitler (when being told that this is not the case), and saying that heathenism and paganism are holding hands together.

I do see that he might have not meant it and retract the "idiot" statement. My apologies to Gunni.

rambler 08-10-2004 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
I explain the reasoning behind my opinions and conclusions, therefore enabling you to argument against them at will. You are being a sore loser who want to end the match.

And what was that I said about attacking persons instead of arguments? It's not very productive for your image.

Please, don't admit defeat yet. All I asked for was a rational reason for what we know as multiculturalism, preferably one that justifies its widely admitted negative consequences (conflict, hate, racism, and less admitted or realized; loss of diversity in the long run).

For myself, I will make money and try to find ways to combat the negative trend.

As for a general proposal; let your opinions be known, and if your opinions are illegal (as it is in many European countries), let your opinions be known together with other people, in as public a venue you can find.

I don't know why I am responding ; but, first of all as I stated before I am not for or against mixing of "breeds"; second of all no matter what I (or anyone else for that matter) says you will find some way to justify your erroneous opinions as fact, and thirdly I am getting hungry and want to go out for dinner(otherwise we could have continued this thread with you just dismissing everything(and keeping me entertained):winkwink:

Repetitive Monkey 08-10-2004 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by rambler
I don't know why I am responding ; but, first of all as I stated before I am not for or against mixing of "breeds"; second of all no matter what I (or anyone else for that matter) says you will find some way to justify your erroneous opinions as fact, and thirdly I am getting hungry and want to go out for dinner(otherwise we could have continued this thread with you just dismissing everything(and keeping me entertained):winkwink:
How can my opinion be dismissed as erroneous when the counter-opinion can't be explained with a rational argument in spite of multiple polite requests, and when you have not even argued against my opinion to begin with?

I think I will conclude at this time that to me, multiculturalism appears to be some kind of a neo-religion.

Gunni 08-11-2004 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Sjelefall
Right, it can be interpreted both ways, especially the "*whatever famous nazi* instead of "odin" or thor" part, him being certain that 88 means something about hitler (when being told that this is not the case), and saying that heathenism and paganism are holding hands together.

I do see that he might have not meant it and retract the "idiot" statement. My apologies to Gunni.

Sure, I can see my words could have been misunderstood :)
I'm deffinately not saying all pagans are neo-nazis, I'm Icelandic and have a lot of friends that are of that religion (I don't think anyone actually belives that the gods exist, but it is a cool phylosophy).

And regarding Odin88, if he is indeed not a Nazi I do appologize, but have to point out to him that his choice of names could have been better if he does not want to be asociated with them.

Personally I am all for tougher immigrant law's, I think if an immigrant comes somewhere and brakes the laws of the land he is in he should get deported immediately, even if he has a status of residency, and I think immigrants that have citizenship and brake the laws should get stripped of the citizenship and deported. There are a few rotten apples everywhere, but most of the immigrants I see everyday in Barcelona are extremely hardworking, like the guys on the beach selling beer, walking up and down in the Spanish heat for 14-16 hours.

The only thing that pisses me off are extremists, I'm extremely against them...:1orglaugh

Ar3s 08-11-2004 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Oh no! A black Britain!

What a tragedy.

:1orglaugh

:glugglug

:1orglaugh

Goatse 08-11-2004 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
pretty soon we will all be just one big melting pot and all one race

that will be cool

If the resulting race has an average IQ of 88, is pathologically violent, is unable to sustain a modern civilization, and loses most technological advances created by the white man, it won't be so cool. Just read about the fate of the Egyptian civilization when the Nubians took over...

DevilsBackbone 08-11-2004 05:26 PM

This racist bullshit is Boooring

Odin88 08-11-2004 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Ar3s
:1orglaugh
Don't worry Ar3s, the Arabs will take over Israel with time. It won't be through war (they could never win one currently) it will be through numerical invasion (it is already happening there I believe). It should be funny (no?) when liberals are screaming that any Israeli that opposes it is a racist Zionist that should be shunned by the *enlightened* community. Will you still be laughing than?

Joe Citizen 08-11-2004 06:08 PM

You need to sacrifice for your race, Odin instead of bitching about it on a messageboard.

It's time for you to have a dozen aryan children, put your flanny back on and move back to Bogan country.

The mental midgets there will love your racist nonsense.


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