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|  06-08-2004, 08:57 AM | #1 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell 
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				 |  Hey TGP Pros..... Is it possible to make $$$ without skimming? No offense.. but man I hate that shit... nothing worse than clicking a link and getting another site that may or may not have popups that go on forever. Can it be done? I am makeing some $$$ with Thumbwhore.com but would like to bump it up a few notches. ICQ me if you do not want to post your suggestions here... I could really use some advice. Thanks  | 
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|  06-08-2004, 08:59 AM | #2 | 
| Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... 
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				 | The Hun, Shemp, and Sleazy Dream are broke.  So no, it's not possible. 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:00 AM | #3 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 
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				 | skimming is stupid 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:01 AM | #4 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA 
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				 | Is possible  but not as easy now as it was when hun,shemp, and sleazy dream started . will take a while to get you traffic base built up to where surfers trust ya and bookmark ya | 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:01 AM | #5 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sweden 
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				 | No problem at all..you just need some kind of feeder to the site. Like 3Ka day traffic flowing into the site will do.. 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:02 AM | #6 | 
| in a van by the river Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2003 
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				 | skimming doesn't make money clicks do... however skimming increases your traffic which unless you're The Hun you probably need. It's kinda a vicious cycle. Try to skim as little as possible, if you have a few sites start one non skim site and feed it with your CJ style sites. 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:07 AM | #7 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell 
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				 | but isn't that how traffic trades are made? through skimming?  and if that is so.. what other means of getting traffic are there?  My submission base is out the roof... I have like over 6k in galleries waiting approval... and I get about 200 a day... so I am getting my recip out there and that has helped a lot... Guess I need to pump the database with more of my sponsor galleries and less of submitters galleries... think that will help? | 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:09 AM | #8 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 
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				 | Someone find a happy medium with skimming and let me know what it is 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:10 AM | #9 | |
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:11 AM | #10 | 
| in a van by the river Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2003 
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				 | you can still trade traffic on a no skim site, you just use top lists..  Also a lot of guys still use a trade script on no skim sites in order to track the traffic. Personally I wouldn't try starting a no skim site unless you had a source of feeder traffic as they are very hard to grow. 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:11 AM | #11 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium 
					Posts: 7,383
				 | quick upfront money = skim no money for long time and bank in the future = noskim but you have to have the best galleries on the web to succeed. | 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:21 AM | #12 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia 
					Posts: 260
				 | it would take a fucking long time to build a site from scratch with no skim. You'd need a lotta patience. I guess if you've already got quite a bit of traffic and multiple tgp's you could feed your non skim tgp with your others | 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:26 AM | #13 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ON, Canada 
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				 | simple 1. build a high quality and unique site 2. update every day 3. be patient | 
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|  06-08-2004, 09:51 AM | #14 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell 
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 Actually taking up more time than expected and that I have... Tried to sell... well... you all see how that went lol.... So... if anyone would like to take over this site and run it and have it make a profit... I will be willing to let you have 75% of everything that comes through... Would like to just pay a salary.. but cannot do that at this time... so.... IF, anyone should be interested... let me know.. | |
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|  06-08-2004, 09:55 AM | #15 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles 
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 1. Stick huge toplists at the top, middle, bottom of your pages 2. Use Comus Thumbs 3. Use Comus Thumbs Open in Frames Option. When someone opens a gallery you get to control the frames. 4. In the top and bottom frames stick your trades in there (Use text, or to make it even more effective stick a small 88x88 thumb with the sites name under it) And there you go... | |
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|  06-08-2004, 09:58 AM | #16 | |
| Orgasms N Such! Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario 
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|  06-08-2004, 10:00 AM | #17 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell 
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|  06-08-2004, 10:03 AM | #18 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2001 
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				 | you are better off making a few skim, then feed the one that doesnt skim. | 
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