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  • DickShoke
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2003
    • 1236

    #1

    Building a Paysite is harder than you think!

    Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
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  • MetaformX
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 6704

    #2
    no shit sherlock...

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    • DickShoke
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2003
      • 1236

      #3
      Originally posted by MetaformX
      no shit sherlock...
      your design for the studio cash logo looks SOLID!! great work

      who's the designer?
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      • strobi
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2002
        • 7383

        #4
        now comes the traffic part.. be prepared

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        • DickShoke
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2003
          • 1236

          #5
          Originally posted by strobi
          now comes the traffic part.. be prepared

          looking at your sig maybe you can help me with that when all my sites are up and running
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          • Carlito
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2001
            • 856

            #6
            I do it all the time...

            BUT!

            Learning how to write my own scripts for the members area management has been priceless. Actually considered selling them to other paysite owners.

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            • VIPimp
              Marina WILL have my babies!
              • May 2003
              • 9234

              #7
              That was the easy part, now get ready for the real work.

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              • DickShoke
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2003
                • 1236

                #8
                Originally posted by VIPimp
                That was the easy part, now get ready for the real work.
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                • kmanrox
                  aka K-Man
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 29295

                  #9
                  That's just the grunt work. More time goes in to planning, bumpin gums to your connections, etc.
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                  • Raf1
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 12117

                    #10
                    getting good affiliates and promoting your site will probably be harder
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                    • Jamie
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 2517

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DickShoke
                      Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
                      Yep, too much work.... go play with lego's
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                      • Jdoughs
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 5794

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jamie
                        Yep, too much work.... go play with lego's
                        LMAO good point!
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                        • SykkBoy2
                          Jesus loves bacon
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 19969

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DickShoke
                          Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
                          wait til you have the fun of affiliates who'll try to card you, then run to the boards crying about what a piece of shit you are when you can them......and of course the guys who send you 300 clicks and scream about you shaving them becuase they didn't get 5 signups out of it....

                          the fun is over, the work begins, hehehe
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                          • EviLGuY
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 12745

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DickShoke
                            Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
                            Paysites are very time intensive.. there is a ton of little things that always seem to need doing.

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                            • TAMPA_TOKER
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • May 2004
                              • 1907

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Raf1
                              getting good affiliates and promoting your site will probably be harder
                              Thats the easy part to me. the design and scriping is what does me in

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                              • sexsup
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3004

                                #16
                                Originally posted by strobi
                                now comes the traffic part.. be prepared
                                That's what I thought

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                                • hova
                                  Traffillionaire
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 22430

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by strobi
                                  now comes the traffic part.. be prepared
                                  hehe
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                                  • boyw_utr
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 310

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DickShoke
                                    Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....

                                    It takes about 2 weeks from scratch....
                                    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                    • Reak
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 17920

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DickShoke
                                      Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....

                                      It's one of the biggest things in the online adult business. A paid site, make big money. It's like a dream.

                                      But you need to work for it, it cost you lots of money to set it up. Not everyone who owns a paysite is rich. The hard part comes after the setup, get traffic, affiliates, make sales. Most paysites owners drop there site after a couple of months some try to sell it.

                                      I think you need to be atleast 2 years in the business to get a '' good '' paysite started. And i'm not talking about a tgp owner who runned a tgp with 5k traffic daily for 2 years long. You really need to have some mad business skillz to set one up. Buying a bulk content deal isnt enough.

                                      Just my

                                      Reak.

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                                      • DutchTeenCash
                                        I like Dutch Girls
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 21684

                                        #20
                                        nah dont do paysites its not worth it just send the traffic to dutchteenamateurs.com

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                                        • hentaivip
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 588

                                          #21
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                                          • strobi
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 7383

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DickShoke
                                            looking at your sig maybe you can help me with that when all my sites are up and running
                                            I know a thing or 2 about filtering traffic yes...

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                                            • Global Dialers
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2004
                                              • 1349

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by boyw_utr
                                              It takes about 2 weeks from scratch....
                                              remind me to never use one of your paysites it takes much longer than 2 weeks lol
                                              the hun gets revenue from pre-paid gallery placements on the top 15 spaces and banners.
                                              the rest of thegalleries are free placements.

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                                              • cool1
                                                sex is good
                                                • Sep 2001
                                                • 24939

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DickShoke
                                                Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
                                                I hear ya.
                                                I have been working on one for awhile now.
                                                But I am very fussy so I am never satisfied with the look so I end up redoing it over and over agian.
                                                Someday I may even finish it...

                                                Good luck to you.

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                                                • Psytonic
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 260

                                                  #25
                                                  I can only imagine how hard it would be, running a paysite is on my list for the distant future.

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                                                  • prostock
                                                    On probation
                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                    • 4160

                                                    #26
                                                    We can do that for ya if ya want. check out www.designermasters.com we make quality paysites. 1 warning page, 1 main page, 2 tour page, 1 join page 10 static banners and 10 Tgp Galleries for only $499 hit us up on iCQ or email [email protected]

                                                    ICQ # :158519717

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                                                    • PrivateIvy
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 4257

                                                      #27
                                                      this would be why it's called W-O-R-K ...try doing it for more than one

                                                      Ivy

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                                                      • loverboy
                                                        When it rains, it pours
                                                        • May 2003
                                                        • 20609

                                                        #28
                                                        you can always refer this work to an expert Designer in the bizz, like www.adultoutsourcing.com

                                                        worry about saving $$$ and start counting your Sales.

                                                        Hit me up for more details, see sig

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                                                        • bizmak
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                          • 10014

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MetaformX
                                                          no shit sherlock...

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                                                          • Jace
                                                            FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                            • 35562

                                                            #30
                                                            www.sitedepth.com

                                                            just got it myself

                                                            it does all the resizing (2 sizes), watermarking, thumbnailing and gallery building for you

                                                            jus zip the sets up and upload them....

                                                            i just built paysite over the weekend, took me 10 hours of design and 5 hours of uploading...and it is done

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                                                            • BadBrad
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 618

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by DickShoke
                                                              Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
                                                              Resizing and thumbnailing only takes seconds if you use Linux. Use Bash scripting and GD.
                                                              Your sig chose me!

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                                                              • 4Pics
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                • 7952

                                                                #32
                                                                one thing i dont understand, the thumbs for most paysites are utter crap compared to what tgps/mgps use. The same effort should be put into thumbs on the inside of the paysite.

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                                                                • boyw_utr
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                  • 310

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Global Dialers
                                                                  remind me to never use one of your paysites it takes much longer than 2 weeks lol
                                                                  Hit me up on ICQ and I'll show you our skills...
                                                                  Not everybody is a DickHead over here....
                                                                  See my post count... that's because I work all day on my
                                                                  paysites instead of posting here
                                                                  SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                  • Reak
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 17920

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by boyw_utr
                                                                    Hit me up on ICQ and I'll show you our skills...
                                                                    Not everybody is a DickHead over here....
                                                                    See my post count... that's because I work all day on my
                                                                    paysites instead of posting here
                                                                    With all the respect, post count doesnt matter. I know you quite well you are a hardworking guy with a great team. But still i think 2 weeks for a paysite is pretty quick. It takes me up to 3 months to build a good one.


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                                                                    • boyw_utr
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 310

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Reak
                                                                      With all the respect, post count doesnt matter. I know you quite well you are a hardworking guy with a great team. But still i think 2 weeks for a paysite is pretty quick. It takes me up to 3 months to build a good one.



                                                                      Dude I'll show you our project we started june 1st and what we have done so far... we will talk in a few min okay
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                                                                      • Reak
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 17920

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by boyw_utr
                                                                        Dude I'll show you our project we started june 1st and what we have done so far... we will talk in a few min okay
                                                                        The testingperiods take more then 1 month of work.

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                                                                        • KRosh
                                                                          So Fucking Outlawed
                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                          • 5114

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by boyw_utr
                                                                          Hit me up on ICQ and I'll show you our skills...
                                                                          Not everybody is a DickHead over here....
                                                                          See my post count... that's because I work all day on my
                                                                          paysites instead of posting here
                                                                          I own quite a few paysites..I would like to see you get the processing in place in 2 weeks ..let alone getting the site done!

                                                                          ICQ 115433750

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                                                                          • boyw_utr
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                            • 310

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by KRosh
                                                                            I own quite a few paysites..I would like to see you get the processing in place in 2 weeks ..let alone getting the site done!

                                                                            I'll show you get intouch with me on icq..
                                                                            Tomorrow I'm now off to bed ;)
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                                                                            • Martin
                                                                              "Assassins"
                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                              • 17278

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Carlito
                                                                              I do it all the time...

                                                                              BUT!

                                                                              Learning how to write my own scripts for the members area management has been priceless. Actually considered selling them to other paysite owners.
                                                                              Hey I would be interested in this script. 140722159 Give me a shout bro.

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                                                                              • bhutocracy
                                                                                Not making A Comeback
                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                • 10218

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Raf1
                                                                                getting good affiliates and promoting your site will probably be harder
                                                                                definately.

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                                                                                • studio
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                  • 1095

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by prostock
                                                                                  We can do that for ya if ya want. check out www.designermasters.com we make quality paysites. 1 warning page, 1 main page, 2 tour page, 1 join page 10 static banners and 10 Tgp Galleries for only $499 hit us up on iCQ or email [email protected]
                                                                                  prostock...

                                                                                  That is not a pay site... What about all the other pages? He is talking about building the entire site... Hell there are 16 + pages in my site pineapplepink.com and that is just the free area! Then you start on the members area... hundreds of pages if the site is done right, with a alphabetical model directory, on top of the main catagories and recent up dates page... Member retention comes from the heart of the site, so it has to be good! If someone says they can do it all in two weeks... LOL Man it took longer than that to get the legal crap approved...

                                                                                  I would be willing to bet that 90% + of the websites out there don't comply with the laws... Which leaves them wide open to be screw with by law enforcement... Just my

                                                                                  Denny

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                                                                                  • fuzebox
                                                                                    making it rain
                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                    • 22353

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by BadBrad
                                                                                    Resizing and thumbnailing only takes seconds if you use Linux. Use Bash scripting and GD.


                                                                                    I use Imagemagick

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                                                                                    • Major (Tom)
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                      • 32492

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      It's definatley not easy. Add filming content to the list and your free time dissapears. It takes me about 40 hours to run site properly and we are building 5 more. Needless to say I had to hire a full time staff of people. I find that updates and keeping affiliates happy are the two hardest, yet twop most important things. Without them you're fudged. 1/2 my time goes into just that.
                                                                                      Cheers
                                                                                      Duke

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                                                                                      • TheDoc
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                        • 13827

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Hehe, funny reading this thread....

                                                                                        The longest process for us is shooting the content and then processing the video. We can shoot and get online about 2 full series a day (videos/pictures/trailers)

                                                                                        To build a paysite front end and back-end (after we have the video content) it takes about 1 week. Most of this time is upload time. 2 days to put it all together.

                                                                                        It takes me 10 minutes (or 1 hour a week) to update our sites. This includes the new pages for new girls.

                                                                                        I have one person that shoots and process video and an admin. The rest of my staff doesn't work on our paysite side of the business.

                                                                                        It takes about 25 hours a week total to do updates, process updates, webmaster and customer support, update tours, hosted galleries/banners/content, promotion of the program and self promotion of the sites.

                                                                                        I out source hosted galleries, some design work, banners, and about anything else that takes to much time.
                                                                                        ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                        It's all disambiguation

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