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GTS Mark 06-05-2004 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by juice
wow! that sounds too good to be true Whats the catch? I may be missing something but If that was this easy everyone would be doing it.. Do you need to have a ton of money in the bank to get the loan? Any down payment?

And is there any risks? vacancies maybe but how high of a risk is it really for your 4plex?

Go read "Rich Dad Poor Dad"

:)

DH

SleazeQueen 06-05-2004 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
LOL, I would prefer to go through a property management company and never see my tenants. They can bitch to someone who gives a shit :)
Not necessarily. I worked in property management for years and there were LOTS of times I didn't give a shit. :)

We've talked about getting an income property, but I'm not sure I'm ready for that again yet. My last couple properties were a real challenge. I dealt with all kinds, including a guy who tried to break into my apartment (where I lived alone) with a baseball bat because I gave him a late notice on his rent.

I don't know. It's still too easy to do this pornographer thing and not have to deal with those idiots to get my income. :)

candyflip 06-05-2004 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Go read "Rich Dad Poor Dad"

:)

DH

B-I-N-G-O!

You can actually download all the books on tape on Kazaa. Save a little for that first down payment :1orglaugh

Illicit 06-05-2004 12:48 AM

Management Companies sound like the way to go ! How much do they get paid to do the shit jobs you dont want to do ?

FlyingIguana 06-05-2004 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by DrinkingHard
My mortgage on that building is only $1700 a month and the rental income is $3500

You do the math. I think I am covering the expenses :winkwink:

DH

if they pay :winkwink:

marcu5 06-05-2004 01:51 AM

I feel your pain, My one of my tendants is complaining that she won't have her money until money. I'm going to start taxing them when they are late for this shit. It's in their contract I just try to be nice and people take advantage of that. It's all good however, I'll raise the rent another 100-200 dollars next year. :321GFY

clickhappy 06-05-2004 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
the lower the rent, the higher the hassle.
Thats a really good one. I'll remember that one.

Manowar 06-05-2004 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by JupZChris
http://www.wishdc.org/images/slumlord/arrival.jpg
:1orglaugh

Pornwolf 06-05-2004 02:17 AM

For $1000 and two plane tickets I will send you two property managers named Leroy and Melquan. They will quickly collect and or evict for you.

JFK 06-05-2004 03:45 AM

Sorry to hear that DH.....Its a good thing that you served notice on them for late payment. If they are persitent at it you can get them out for that reason under the Landlord and tenants act.Tell then You are NOT a bank , you do not lend money! Having the property managed is the best thing you can do. They earn their keep. I love income properties, but hate the hassle that goes along with it, so I have it managed. Good luck :thumbsup

JFK 06-05-2004 03:46 AM

Fitty Dead Beat Tenants:BangBang:

GTS Mark 06-05-2004 06:44 AM

So another lovely suprise this morning. One of the tenants that was late came this morning to drop off her rent payment.

At 8:30AM on a Fucking SATURDAY!!!

That's it property management company coming in Monday morning for sure now.

DH

VeriSexy 06-05-2004 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by BVF
paying 400 CANADIAN for an apartment would rock
You get what you pay for :2 cents:

pradaboy 06-05-2004 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Hey can I move into one of the spare bedrooms of your new house? Hell I'll even pay you $400 USD and if I'm ever late you can just push me down the stairs or take away my headset.
you and your friggin' headset LOL

undermyspell 06-05-2004 07:59 AM

Well, at least you haven't had to deal with them trashing or stealing the place. My mother in law owned 4 rental homes and hired a property management company. They charged her an arm and a leg and then rented her home out to Section 8 renters. Those are the ones the government pays for their rent while they set around and get fat and make more babies to mooch off the welfare system.

Anyway, two of the last 4 renters she had moved off leaving the nastiest mess i've ever seen, broken windows, junk all over the place, dogshit in the carpet and even stole her appliances. All of the times the management company (which was run by "good christian people") wanted to charge her an additional fee to clean up after the renters. I called them and told them that was bullshit and that if they cashed the last rental checks and took their percentage we would take them to court that I was revoking the contract she made with them effective immediately.

So, be sure to ask the management company if they allow destructive renters and the place has to be cleaned or repaired if they charge you additional fees for it.

WiredGuy 06-05-2004 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by SleazeQueen
We've talked about getting an income property, but I'm not sure I'm ready for that again yet. My last couple properties were a real challenge. I dealt with all kinds, including a guy who tried to break into my apartment (where I lived alone) with a baseball bat because I gave him a late notice on his rent.

I don't know. It's still too easy to do this pornographer thing and not have to deal with those idiots to get my income. :)

Wow. For me, I'd rather invest into a mutual fund or company that manages it all and get a percentage of the profit. I'm good only in SEO, not real estate so all I'm going to do is throw money into a fund or fully managed company. Sure the ROI is a little lower but no work is involved either.

WG

xxxdesign-net 06-05-2004 11:39 AM

the question is.. is it a good time to buy...? Sure the interest rates are low... but apartment complexes and condos are selling at very high cost right now... the market is booming... Condos (and I think apartment complex also) in Montreal are being built at a crazy rate.. everyone wants a piece of the pie... and maybe soon enough.. they'll be more offers than demands.. and you might have problems just finding tenants (if you bought an apartment complex...)

Meloman 06-05-2004 11:57 AM

Wow. I guees I've been lucky so far. I own a 4 plex and live in one of the units. So I have 3 tentants. So far we haven't had too many problems at all (knock on wood).

When I bought it we had everyone sign new contracts that included late fee penalties.

Had someone just a few months ago pay there rent 3 days late. They got a letter in the mail stating how much of a late fee they needed to add to there next rent check. The following month was on time including the penalty payment and they haven't been late again.

I got lucky and the property I bought was a very slight fixer upper and since my brother (and partner) is a contractor everything gone fixed easily. Plus the property is excluded from rent control. And most importatnly here in San Francisco property value increases constatnly. In the 2 years we've owned the property it has all ready gone up about $200K-$300K in value.

We just refinanced and lowerd our morgtage. We're definetly going to get another building in probably another year...just need to save up a bit more for the down payment. Anything decent in SanFrancisco costs at least a million so u need a good down payment first.

Anyways...good luck with your property.

P.S. A good way to screen tenants before they move in is to do credit checks.

JFK 06-05-2004 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Meloman
Wow. I guees I've been lucky so far. I own a 4 plex and live in one of the units. So I have 3 tentants. So far we haven't had too many problems at all (knock on wood).

When I bought it we had everyone sign new contracts that included late fee penalties.

Had someone just a few months ago pay there rent 3 days late. They got a letter in the mail stating how much of a late fee they needed to add to there next rent check. The following month was on time including the penalty payment and they haven't been late again.

I got lucky and the property I bought was a very slight fixer upper and since my brother (and partner) is a contractor everything gone fixed easily. Plus the property is excluded from rent control. And most importatnly here in San Francisco property value increases constatnly. In the 2 years we've owned the property it has all ready gone up about $200K-$300K in value.

We just refinanced and lowerd our morgtage. We're definetly going to get another building in probably another year...just need to save up a bit more for the down payment. Anything decent in SanFrancisco costs at least a million so u need a good down payment first.

Anyways...good luck with your property.

P.S. A good way to screen tenants before they move in is to do credit checks.


Right On Melo ! There is nothing Like Real Estate for longterm investment:thumbsup


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