CJ will be dead within a year!! - GoFuckYourself.com

tha_timinator · 02-07-2001, 07:37 AM

I'm doing CJ for a few months now (originally from the free (quality) site scene) and I'm already feeling the difference! The CJ scene is going down VEERRRY fast right now and will probably near to dead within a year I guess. It seems like the whole world suddenly discovers the ability to make a nice amount of money without having any experience, real motivation, talent or time...

I'm already working on moving to other area's coz this is just doomed to die sooon!

Do you guys see/feel the same?

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Andy · 02-07-2001, 07:48 AM

you know
thread like this was on AWI
and yeah the old console hells ( CJ sites ) are going to die soon cause there's new CJ2 thing ... it's almost like TGP but there's an exit console to a sponsor ..
very great thing

tha_timinator · 02-07-2001, 08:06 AM

Ah man, CJ2 is an aircastle!! (is that an english word??) Many people have great respect to this standard but it's nothing more than some stupid rules some guy made up!

The worst thing about it is that there are many webmasters now in the CJ scene that only wanna trade with CJ2 compliant sites... I think that attitude is crap! Why can't a webmaster decide for itself whether he wants to trade with a particular site or not?!
f.e. I used to have a chained exit popup on my CJ (I had an exit trade with a site with alternative exit popup), for the rest my site was 2000% percent clean and I was really having great traffic (compared to the average CJ traffic)... In this case I really didn't understand webmasters who declined a trade just because my site wasn't fully CJ2 compliant... why shouldn't they just give it a shot!? The wouldn't have regretted it...

But anyway; I don't think CJ2 makes much difference in the dying process of CJ. And; there are more gradations between console hell and CJ2!!

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MrCockTale · 02-07-2001, 08:43 AM

lol, cj will never die

There will always be visitors looking for
porn! Every month there is another guy
saying like this, that's like for 2 years
now! But it doens't DIE believe me.

kemp · 02-07-2001, 11:27 AM

I can't see CJ's dying off anytime soon. Mabye the way people are curretly running their CJ's are not working but they will remain in some form I am sure...

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xApster · 02-07-2001, 11:40 AM

CJ sites will die (the console hell) but CJ2 sites will live... i think its a great idea you can not trade with console hells... it lowers the traffic quality a lot.

dropped9 · 02-07-2001, 12:01 PM

CJ's will not die..... I remeber back when rimmer was giving the free script out... I had a cj way back then.... Fucking great traffic, i went from 5k to 45k in 3 days and the $$$ was good too...

Yes the cj's will change and the standards of all cj's might change but they will never go away!

If anyones interested on Friday im doing a workshop on CJ's on plrradio.com

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Wizzo · 02-07-2001, 03:09 PM

tha_timinator, you said, "The worst thing about it is that there are many webmasters now in the CJ scene that only wanna trade with CJ2 compliant sites... I think that attitude is crap! Why can't a webmaster decide for itself whether he wants to trade with a particular site or not?!"

Isn't that what they are doing? CJ2 only decision?

Mikey · 02-07-2001, 10:36 PM

A CJ site trading with a CJ2 site will lower the overall productivity for your trade partners.

MrCockTale · 02-07-2001, 11:27 PM

I think what Tim means is that he likes
to add trades in his exit, but then CJII
sites won't trade with them.. Am i right?

tha_timinator · 02-09-2001, 09:33 PM

What I just meant was that many guys don't even look at your site or give it a try but simply decline because it's 99% CJ2 instead of 100%... I really don't understand that...

Coz the only thing that's important is that the traffic is good right? So why not give a trade a try if it's 99% CJ2 compliant!??!

And about CJ that's dying; we will see... but you all know that 3 years ago you could make muuucch more money with CJ, so if you think logically that money will only get less, until you make so less that it isn't worth the time anymore!!! (And that's what I call 'dead').

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jaYMan · 02-09-2001, 11:29 PM

im not sure if it will be dead...

if i had to bet on it, id say its gonna evolve...

hell may be doing so as we speak.

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MrCockTale · 02-10-2001, 12:16 AM

Hey Tim, that's 100% BULLSHIT! It's true
that it was EASIER to make lotsa money
3 years ago, but that was NOT only CJ!
Also paysites, free sites, AVS sites made
a LOT more money with LESS traffic...

About tje CJ2 thing, i understand what you
mean! I personally don't think we should go
back to CJ1, simply because:
- Sponsors don't pay console hells
- Exit/Per Click/Signup sponsors will pay less
- A lot of more reasons..

Tim, I'm not sure if you had a CJ site a
few months/year ago, when it was quite
normal for a sponsor not to pay to a CJ1 site

Really

It sucked. Most of the current
CJ-ers don't wanna go back there.

TheJimmy · 02-10-2001, 01:08 AM

Ditto to what JayMan said, they'll evolve....

I've run one in the past...might do another in the future...actually certain of it...

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Red7 · 02-10-2001, 01:51 AM

Well you all are missing the point here! CJ's now own most of the traffic in the top 100 of sextracker stats, theses sites are so called tgps, the UCJ script sends a certain amount of traffic to trades and they are all CJ sites just no pops-consoles..What they are called is Hybrid TGPS. a fake TGP that trades traffic, most of these sites update there galleries once a week if lucky, but that is what is making it now days as i have had over 15 CJ sites and none of these Hybrid TGP-CJ sites, CJ is alive and well and kicking most regular TGPS into the Dirt except the old timers like hun-jjj-worldsex and so on.

Just setting the record straight.. go look a t Rimmers top CJ list, also he has a traffic breakdown about the top 30 UCJ sites on sex tracker on AWI.

OK enough said..

Out..

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Much0S · 02-10-2001, 03:19 AM

What Tim means is that the whole adult market in general is getting fucked up, not because the market is being fucked up, but because more and more and more ppl realise that XXX is the only way to make money on the internet.

Therefor more ppl start new XXX sites (in whatever categorie) than new ppl add to the internet. Therefor the total amount of XXX money increases, yet because the number of XXX sites increases more rapidly, webmasters get less money.

Ofcourse nothing will totally die, but at the speed this whole thing is decreasing, you never ever can buy a nice car for yourself anymore

MrCockTale · 02-10-2001, 03:54 AM

Much0s I agree, BUT more newbie webmasters
doesn't have to mean less money...

Much0S · 02-10-2001, 11:47 AM

If newbie webmaster wouldn't earn scrat that would be true, but newbie webmasters DO earn money, so indeed $$ takes off..

man even 9 months ago i made $30 a day when i had only 3k traffic!! Now can you point SOMEBODY to me that makes the same amount on 3k???

No, why not? Because the whole fuckin' market is being fucked up...

MrCockTale · 02-10-2001, 11:50 AM

actually I do make $30 with 3k

But
that's probably because I get 1.5k daily
from yahoo

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02-07-2001, 07:37 AM	#1
tha_timinator Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 590	CJ will be dead within a year!! I'm doing CJ for a few months now (originally from the free (quality) site scene) and I'm already feeling the difference! The CJ scene is going down VEERRRY fast right now and will probably near to dead within a year I guess. It seems like the whole world suddenly discovers the ability to make a nice amount of money without having any experience, real motivation, talent or time... I'm already working on moving to other area's coz this is just doomed to die sooon! Do you guys see/feel the same? ------------------ Tha Timinator IEP http://www.iephosting.net/

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02-07-2001, 07:48 AM	#2
Andy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A nice little folder on some C drive inside a huge server ;) Posts: 460	you know thread like this was on AWI and yeah the old console hells ( CJ sites ) are going to die soon cause there's new CJ2 thing ... it's almost like TGP but there's an exit console to a sponsor .. very great thing

02-07-2001, 08:06 AM	#3
tha_timinator Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 590	Ah man, CJ2 is an aircastle!! (is that an english word??) Many people have great respect to this standard but it's nothing more than some stupid rules some guy made up! The worst thing about it is that there are many webmasters now in the CJ scene that only wanna trade with CJ2 compliant sites... I think that attitude is crap! Why can't a webmaster decide for itself whether he wants to trade with a particular site or not?! f.e. I used to have a chained exit popup on my CJ (I had an exit trade with a site with alternative exit popup), for the rest my site was 2000% percent clean and I was really having great traffic (compared to the average CJ traffic)... In this case I really didn't understand webmasters who declined a trade just because my site wasn't fully CJ2 compliant... why shouldn't they just give it a shot!? The wouldn't have regretted it... But anyway; I don't think CJ2 makes much difference in the dying process of CJ. And; there are more gradations between console hell and CJ2!! ------------------ Tha Timinator IEP http://www.iephosting.net/

02-07-2001, 08:43 AM	#4
MrCockTale Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 669	lol, cj will never die There will always be visitors looking for porn! Every month there is another guy saying like this, that's like for 2 years now! But it doens't DIE believe me.

02-07-2001, 11:27 AM	#5
kemp Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 392	I can't see CJ's dying off anytime soon. Mabye the way people are curretly running their CJ's are not working but they will remain in some form I am sure... ------------------ Get some traffic - Hardcore Free Sex Starved Lesi TGP

02-07-2001, 11:40 AM	#6
xApster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,188	CJ sites will die (the console hell) but CJ2 sites will live... i think its a great idea you can not trade with console hells... it lowers the traffic quality a lot.

02-07-2001, 12:01 PM	#7
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	CJ's will not die..... I remeber back when rimmer was giving the free script out... I had a cj way back then.... Fucking great traffic, i went from 5k to 45k in 3 days and the $$$ was good too... Yes the cj's will change and the standards of all cj's might change but they will never go away! If anyones interested on Friday im doing a workshop on CJ's on plrradio.com ------------------ Hey want some rukas? Goto http://www.plrradio.com [This message has been edited by Headless (edited 02-07-2001).]

02-07-2001, 03:09 PM	#8
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	tha_timinator, you said, "The worst thing about it is that there are many webmasters now in the CJ scene that only wanna trade with CJ2 compliant sites... I think that attitude is crap! Why can't a webmaster decide for itself whether he wants to trade with a particular site or not?!" Isn't that what they are doing? CJ2 only decision?

02-07-2001, 10:36 PM	#9
Mikey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 665	A CJ site trading with a CJ2 site will lower the overall productivity for your trade partners.

02-07-2001, 11:27 PM	#10
MrCockTale Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 669	I think what Tim means is that he likes to add trades in his exit, but then CJII sites won't trade with them.. Am i right?

02-09-2001, 09:33 PM	#11
tha_timinator Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 590	What I just meant was that many guys don't even look at your site or give it a try but simply decline because it's 99% CJ2 instead of 100%... I really don't understand that... Coz the only thing that's important is that the traffic is good right? So why not give a trade a try if it's 99% CJ2 compliant!??! And about CJ that's dying; we will see... but you all know that 3 years ago you could make muuucch more money with CJ, so if you think logically that money will only get less, until you make so less that it isn't worth the time anymore!!! (And that's what I call 'dead'). ------------------ ThaTiminator e-mail [email protected] ICQ 29354876 IEP hosting http://www.thedaily3.com/ http://www.mynudebabes.com

02-09-2001, 11:29 PM	#12
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	im not sure if it will be dead... if i had to bet on it, id say its gonna evolve... hell may be doing so as we speak. ------------------ jaYMan http://www.plrradio.com

02-10-2001, 12:16 AM	#13
MrCockTale Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 669	Hey Tim, that's 100% BULLSHIT! It's true that it was EASIER to make lotsa money 3 years ago, but that was NOT only CJ! Also paysites, free sites, AVS sites made a LOT more money with LESS traffic... About tje CJ2 thing, i understand what you mean! I personally don't think we should go back to CJ1, simply because: - Sponsors don't pay console hells - Exit/Per Click/Signup sponsors will pay less - A lot of more reasons.. Tim, I'm not sure if you had a CJ site a few months/year ago, when it was quite normal for a sponsor not to pay to a CJ1 site Really It sucked. Most of the current CJ-ers don't wanna go back there.

02-10-2001, 01:08 AM	#14
TheJimmy ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,747	Ditto to what JayMan said, they'll evolve.... I've run one in the past...might do another in the future...actually certain of it... ------------------ ...type-atcha-later, TheJ

02-10-2001, 01:51 AM	#15
Red7 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: www.sexgrfx.com Posts: 221	Well you all are missing the point here! CJ's now own most of the traffic in the top 100 of sextracker stats, theses sites are so called tgps, the UCJ script sends a certain amount of traffic to trades and they are all CJ sites just no pops-consoles..What they are called is Hybrid TGPS. a fake TGP that trades traffic, most of these sites update there galleries once a week if lucky, but that is what is making it now days as i have had over 15 CJ sites and none of these Hybrid TGP-CJ sites, CJ is alive and well and kicking most regular TGPS into the Dirt except the old timers like hun-jjj-worldsex and so on. Just setting the record straight.. go look a t Rimmers top CJ list, also he has a traffic breakdown about the top 30 UCJ sites on sex tracker on AWI. OK enough said.. Out.. ------------------ Red7 Free Shit For The AdultWebmaster

02-10-2001, 03:19 AM	#16
Much0S Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 54	What Tim means is that the whole adult market in general is getting fucked up, not because the market is being fucked up, but because more and more and more ppl realise that XXX is the only way to make money on the internet. Therefor more ppl start new XXX sites (in whatever categorie) than new ppl add to the internet. Therefor the total amount of XXX money increases, yet because the number of XXX sites increases more rapidly, webmasters get less money. Ofcourse nothing will totally die, but at the speed this whole thing is decreasing, you never ever can buy a nice car for yourself anymore

02-10-2001, 03:54 AM	#17
MrCockTale Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 669	Much0s I agree, BUT more newbie webmasters doesn't have to mean less money...

02-10-2001, 11:47 AM	#18
Much0S Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 54	If newbie webmaster wouldn't earn scrat that would be true, but newbie webmasters DO earn money, so indeed $$ takes off.. man even 9 months ago i made $30 a day when i had only 3k traffic!! Now can you point SOMEBODY to me that makes the same amount on 3k??? No, why not? Because the whole fuckin' market is being fucked up...

02-10-2001, 11:50 AM	#19
MrCockTale Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Posts: 669	actually I do make $30 with 3k But that's probably because I get 1.5k daily from yahoo