Which porn sponsors generate $100 million and more in revenue? - GoFuckYourself.com

Quotealex · 05-27-2004, 07:30 AM

Do you know of any?

DarkJedi · 05-27-2004, 07:32 AM

I'd say TCG

montel · 05-27-2004, 07:34 AM

i would be surprised if any do. i say none.

Gman.357 · 05-27-2004, 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by montel
i would be surprised if any do. i say none.

Same here. You talking gross or net?

Quotealex · 05-27-2004, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357
Same here. You talking gross or net?

Gross revenue

studio · 05-27-2004, 07:46 AM

I know some that spend more than that on content... So figure it out...

Brad Mitchell · 05-27-2004, 07:48 AM

Gross, I say none except perhaps someone that's in both video and internet. I think think the only companies that have done that business were the organized crime families that were perpetrating the hundreds of millions of dollars in credit card fraud...

Brad

gregtx · 05-27-2004, 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by studio
I know some that spend more than that on content... So figure it out...

$100million on content???

lay off the crack pipe

studio · 05-27-2004, 07:51 AM

It must be morning, I thought is said a million... Sorry... LOL

Gman.357 · 05-27-2004, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by studio
I know some that spend more than that on content... So figure it out...

Name one.

Veterans Day · 05-27-2004, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by gregtx
$100million on content???

lay off the crack pipe

right

Gman.357 · 05-27-2004, 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by studio
It must be morning, I thought is said a million... Sorry... LOL

Oh. Nevermind then.

Manowar · 05-27-2004, 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by studio
It must be morning, I thought is said a million... Sorry... LOL

i was kinda like "wtf? no sponsor spends 100mil on content"

gregtx · 05-27-2004, 07:55 AM

you have to remember companies who have been in the game for several years.. have hundreds of thousands to several million in just rebills alone... plus the new traffic they take in... then if the company is run efficiently they also maximze that traffic to produce other income besides the obvious.. again a game of numbers..

yes there are sponsors who GROSS over $100 Million

Doctor Dre · 05-27-2004, 07:56 AM

ARS might have been there ... except that I don't really know

TheSwed · 05-27-2004, 07:59 AM

here is one

Thanks for being a Adult FriendFinder affiliate! Adult FriendFinder is the world's largest sex personals site in the world with over 8 million active members and over 30 million registered. This size advantage results in the highest conversion for your traffic and the largest payouts anywhere. Our affiliates get paid over $1,000,000 every month!

jay23 · 05-27-2004, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
Do you know of any?

If you look at some one who is pure Internet then iFriends should be up their.

Jay

Doctor Dre · 05-27-2004, 08:04 AM

Ifriends might cut it too .

AWW - Kevin · 05-27-2004, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by TheSwed
here is one

Thanks for being a Adult FriendFinder affiliate! Adult FriendFinder is the world's largest sex personals site in the world with over 8 million active members and over 30 million registered. This size advantage results in the highest conversion for your traffic and the largest payouts anywhere. Our affiliates get paid over $1,000,000 every month!

huh ?

ok say they pay $2mil. month x 12 = 12million/year
then say affiliates get only 25% so again x 4 = $48 million
way short of $100.000.000

skillfull · 05-27-2004, 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by AWW - Kevin
huh ?

ok say they pay $2mil. month x 12 = 12million/year
then say affiliates get only 25% so again x 4 = $48 million
way short of $100.000.000

you dont count shaving + direct sales + others revenue they may have

ldinternet · 05-27-2004, 08:12 AM

Oracle Porn does that volume in about 15 days.

Gman.357 · 05-27-2004, 08:14 AM

I once read somewhere that MicroSoft was pulling down over $1M per HOUR gross. I wonder if there's any truth to that, or perhaps I'm not recalling the figure correctly.

TheSwed · 05-27-2004, 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by AWW - Kevin
huh ?

ok say they pay $2mil. month x 12 = 12million/year

Hmm that what i call shaving*lol*
2x12=24

nofx · 05-27-2004, 08:16 AM

paris hilton tape owners this year maybe?

FlyingIguana · 05-27-2004, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by ldinternet
Oracle Porn does that volume in about 15 days.

rofl

scoreman · 05-27-2004, 08:20 AM

To achieve 100 million gross off of internet subscription sales would be quite a feat. $8.33 million a month is not out of the question though. ARS 18-24 months ago, The Ox/Nasty/BBO crew come to mind.

A more likely scenario is a company that has non internet properties that are revenue generators. Magazine, video, DVD, cable revenues, licensing, internet would be the platforms that would seem to be the needed. LFP would be a candidate for these gross numbers, but take that with a caveat as magazine publishing has a much lower margin than internet. The printing and distribution costs alone are enormous.

tony286 · 05-27-2004, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by scoreman
To achieve 100 million gross off of internet subscription sales would be quite a feat. $8.33 million a month is not out of the question though. ARS 18-24 months ago, The Ox/Nasty/BBO crew come to mind.

A more likely scenario is a company that has non internet properties that are revenue generators. Magazine, video, DVD, cable revenues, licensing, internet would be the platforms that would seem to be the needed. LFP would be a candidate for these gross numbers, but take that with a caveat as magazine publishing has a much lower margin than internet. The printing and distribution costs alone are enormous.

I remember in a interview LF said hustlers sites did 10 mil a month.

WiredGuy · 05-27-2004, 08:36 AM

I doubt anyone is doing $100 million per year. Since formation, I would say iFriends, Hustler (video, magazine and internet sales) and possibly BangBros/NastyDollars.

WG

Quotealex · 05-27-2004, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
I doubt anyone is doing $100 million per year. Since formation, I would say iFriends, Hustler (video, magazine and internet sales) and possibly BangBros/NastyDollars.

WG

I seriously doubt BangBros/NastyDollars/OxCash make anywhere near $100M in annual gross revenue.

WiredGuy · 05-27-2004, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
I seriously doubt BangBros/NastyDollars/OxCash make anywhere near $100M in annual gross revenue.

Read the first line of my reply again.
WG

Jon · 05-27-2004, 10:48 AM

Wow, no one mentioned CECash.. Those guys definitely bank over the $100M mark, or at least used to.

iFriends probably does over $100M as well..

Both Gross, not Net..

donnie · 05-27-2004, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by TheSwed
Hmm that what i call shaving*lol*
2x12=24

SmutGiant · 05-27-2004, 11:00 AM

Vivid... if you count their offline video production they gross over a billion.

scoreman · 05-27-2004, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357
I once read somewhere that MicroSoft was pulling down over $1M per HOUR gross. I wonder if there's any truth to that, or perhaps I'm not recalling the figure correctly.

Its actually much higher. MSFT netted $9,993,000,000.00 last year. $10 billion equals over 1.1 million NET an hr.

What a money printing machine..truly awe inspiring numbers.

WiredGuy · 05-27-2004, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by scoreman
What a money printing machine..truly awe inspiring numbers.

At that rate, I bet Microsoft makes more than printing presses could produce

WG

LA Mike · 05-27-2004, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by gregtx
$100million on content???

lay off the crack pipe

LoL, Thats funny...

And for the rest of you... 100 million? lol Are you guys crazy?

First of all if you did 1000 signups a day (using a round number) which would be a large program you figure only 25% of those signups go past trial. So 250x39.99 which after processing is really about 35 = $8,750 a day. Out of those they only stay an average of 1.5 months so that is anohter 12,000 over time. Now take away chargebacks, and credits and you are at about 10,000 a day. Then you have to pay your wembasters for those 1000 signups at 35.00 each (35,000)..... you are already down 10,000 dollars a day... So lets say you make 3k a day off dialers and another 3k off your exits. Not you are only down 4k a day... You see where I'm going.

Not to mention that we pay for bandwidth, servers, staff, content.. (reality sites costing 60-80k per) and so on.

There is much, much, much smaller margin then anyone has a clue of.

Theo · 05-27-2004, 11:22 AM

read what LAMike says

millions dont fall from the sky

FlyingIguana · 05-27-2004, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by LAMike
LoL, Thats funny...

And for the rest of you... 100 million? lol Are you guys crazy?

First of all if you did 1000 signups a day (using a round number) which would be a large program you figure only 25% of those signups go past trial. So 250x39.99 which after processing is really about 35 = $8,750 a day. Out of those they only stay an average of 1.5 months so that is anohter 12,000 over time. Now take away chargebacks, and credits and you are at about 10,000 a day. Then you have to pay your wembasters for those 1000 signups at 35.00 each (35,000)..... you are already down 10,000 dollars a day... So lets say you make 3k a day off dialers and another 3k off your exits. Not you are only down 4k a day... You see where I'm going.

Not to mention that we pay for bandwidth, servers, staff, content.. (reality sites costing 60-80k per) and so on.

There is much, much, much smaller margin then anyone has a clue of.

100 mil in revenue...

milambur · 05-27-2004, 11:28 AM

I think there is probably 1-2 companies out there that are over 100 Million in Revenue for their adult internet biz.

Theo · 05-27-2004, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
100 mil in revenue...

that would require 20k+/day sales

body · 05-27-2004, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by studio
I know some that spend more than that on content... So figure it out...

who?

body · 05-27-2004, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by LAMike
LoL, Thats funny...

And for the rest of you... 100 million? lol Are you guys crazy?

First of all if you did 1000 signups a day (using a round number) which would be a large program you figure only 25% of those signups go past trial. So 250x39.99 which after processing is really about 35 = $8,750 a day. Out of those they only stay an average of 1.5 months so that is anohter 12,000 over time. Now take away chargebacks, and credits and you are at about 10,000 a day. Then you have to pay your wembasters for those 1000 signups at 35.00 each (35,000)..... you are already down 10,000 dollars a day... So lets say you make 3k a day off dialers and another 3k off your exits. Not you are only down 4k a day... You see where I'm going.

Not to mention that we pay for bandwidth, servers, staff, content.. (reality sites costing 60-80k per) and so on.

There is much, much, much smaller margin then anyone has a clue of.

Thats so fucking true and I speak as a proggie owner

really

for LAMike words

4Pics · 05-27-2004, 11:34 AM

I know there are some that made that back 4-5years ago. Now? I dunno as members dont tend to retain what they did in the past.

milambur · 05-27-2004, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
that would require 20k+/day sales

More like 10K.

LA Mike · 05-27-2004, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by body
Thats so fucking true and I speak as a proggie owner

really for LAMike words

PR_Phil · 05-27-2004, 11:42 AM

I know of 1 program that has done that in the past, and a few that likely come close now, but my guess is that based purely on online adult transactions, there is maybe 1 doing it now!

LA Mike,
some good points, but knowone asked if anyone was making $100M a year, just if they were doing that in gross sales. Also, you are absolutely right, webmasters generally don't have a clue what a programs margin is and generally think it is 10 to 20 times higher than it is.

this brings me to my other point, there is no way Friend Finder is doing 100M a year in sales, probably closer to $20M - $25M, my guess is their payout over the last 12 months was about $16M to 18M. That leaves about 5% to 30% of their gross sales before any operating costs have been deducted!

mammy · 05-27-2004, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
I remember in a interview LF said hustlers sites did 10 mil a month.

read the same thing too

SlickRick · 05-27-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
Do you know of any?

I saw on the news several years ago (Back in like 97-98) that Danni Ashe - dannisharddrive was making 13 million a month (thats 156 million a year) with growth they were expected to make about 25 mill a month the following year in 99.

I am not gready all I want is 1-thenth % of that

Matt 26z · 05-27-2004, 01:47 PM

$100,000,000.oo without fraud or an offline aspect involved? FORGET IT!

That's about $274,000 in sales per day.

You'd have to sell over 9,000 $30 memberships/rebills each day. Even with a larege affiliate base and taking into account other smaller sources in connection with the site, that would be next to impossible.

Theo · 05-27-2004, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by milambur
More like 10K.

yes,correct

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Quotealex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Global Digerati Village Posts: 6,265	Which porn sponsors generate $100 million and more in revenue? Do you know of any?

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montel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig! Posts: 2,606	i would be surprised if any do. i say none. __________________ Barefootsies

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studio Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oshkosh, WI ICQ #251860879 Posts: 1,095	I know some that spend more than that on content... So figure it out... __________________

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Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,813	Gross, I say none except perhaps someone that's in both video and internet. I think think the only companies that have done that business were the organized crime families that were perpetrating the hundreds of millions of dollars in credit card fraud... Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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studio Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oshkosh, WI ICQ #251860879 Posts: 1,095	It must be morning, I thought is said a million... Sorry... LOL __________________

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DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	I'd say TCG

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gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	you have to remember companies who have been in the game for several years.. have hundreds of thousands to several million in just rebills alone... plus the new traffic they take in... then if the company is run efficiently they also maximze that traffic to produce other income besides the obvious.. again a game of numbers.. yes there are sponsors who GROSS over $100 Million __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

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TheSwed Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sweden. Posts: 3,483	here is one Thanks for being a Adult FriendFinder affiliate! Adult FriendFinder is the world's largest sex personals site in the world with over 8 million active members and over 30 million registered. This size advantage results in the highest conversion for your traffic and the largest payouts anywhere. Our affiliates get paid over $1,000,000 every month! __________________ Cheap Viagra and Cialis Erectionpills

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ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Oracle Porn does that volume in about 15 days.

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scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	To achieve 100 million gross off of internet subscription sales would be quite a feat. $8.33 million a month is not out of the question though. ARS 18-24 months ago, The Ox/Nasty/BBO crew come to mind. A more likely scenario is a company that has non internet properties that are revenue generators. Magazine, video, DVD, cable revenues, licensing, internet would be the platforms that would seem to be the needed. LFP would be a candidate for these gross numbers, but take that with a caveat as magazine publishing has a much lower margin than internet. The printing and distribution costs alone are enormous. __________________

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,501	I doubt anyone is doing $100 million per year. Since formation, I would say iFriends, Hustler (video, magazine and internet sales) and possibly BangBros/NastyDollars. WG __________________ I play with Google.

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Jon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 2,578	Wow, no one mentioned CECash.. Those guys definitely bank over the $100M mark, or at least used to. iFriends probably does over $100M as well.. Both Gross, not Net.. __________________ WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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SmutGiant Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,895	Vivid... if you count their offline video production they gross over a billion.

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	read what LAMike says millions dont fall from the sky

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milambur Mainstream since 2010 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,327	I think there is probably 1-2 companies out there that are over 100 Million in Revenue for their adult internet biz. __________________ Alea iacta est

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4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	I know there are some that made that back 4-5years ago. Now? I dunno as members dont tend to retain what they did in the past.

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PR_Phil Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: knee deep in dirty diapers Posts: 1,960	I know of 1 program that has done that in the past, and a few that likely come close now, but my guess is that based purely on online adult transactions, there is maybe 1 doing it now! LA Mike, some good points, but knowone asked if anyone was making $100M a year, just if they were doing that in gross sales. Also, you are absolutely right, webmasters generally don't have a clue what a programs margin is and generally think it is 10 to 20 times higher than it is. this brings me to my other point, there is no way Friend Finder is doing 100M a year in sales, probably closer to $20M - $25M, my guess is their payout over the last 12 months was about $16M to 18M. That leaves about 5% to 30% of their gross sales before any operating costs have been deducted! __________________

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	$100,000,000.oo without fraud or an offline aspect involved? FORGET IT! That's about $274,000 in sales per day. You'd have to sell over 9,000 $30 memberships/rebills each day. Even with a larege affiliate base and taking into account other smaller sources in connection with the site, that would be next to impossible.