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Old 06-02-2004, 03:28 PM   #1
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No more ladies night in new jersey clubs

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TRENTON, N.J. June 2, 2004 ? The state's top civil rights official has ruled that taverns cannot offer discounts to women on "ladies nights," agreeing with a man who claimed such gender-based promotions discriminated against men.
David R. Gillespie said it was not fair for women to get into the Coastline nightclub for free and receive discounted drinks while men paid a $5 cover charge and full price for drinks.



In his ruling Tuesday, J. Frank Vespa-Papaleo, director of the state Division on Civil Rights, rejected arguments by the nightclub that ladies nights were a legitimate promotion. Commercial interests do not override the "important social policy objective of eradicating discrimination," he ruled.

Gov. James E. McGreevey criticized the decision, calling it "bureaucratic nonsense."

"It is an overreaction that reflects a complete lack of common sense and good judgment," McGreevey said in a statement.

The governor does not have the authority directly rescind the ruling. But he met with state Attorney General Peter C. Harvey on Wednesday, telling him that the civil rights division had better things to do with its time, said Micah Rasmussen, a spokesman for McGreevey.

A spokesman for Harvey did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

The ruling specifically addressed the weekly ladies nights at the Coastline in Cherry Hill, but it carries the force of a court decision and applies statewide. Vespa-Papaleo said state officials would write formal rules after a public hearing.

The restaurant's attorney, Colleen Ready, did not immediately return a telephone message left Wednesday by The Associated Press.

Courts in other states have issued divergent opinions on such promotions.

Judges in Pennsylvania and Iowa have said similar events are illegal, but courts in Illinois and Washington state have said that ladies nights are permissible because they do not discriminate against men but rather encourage women to attend.
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Old 06-02-2004, 03:29 PM   #2
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Thats fucking stupidest thing I have ever heard....
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Old 06-02-2004, 03:30 PM   #3
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Well I moved just in time then.


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Old 06-02-2004, 03:30 PM   #4
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sweet. too bad its only new jersey. if girls dont want to pay for drinks they will need to find some chump to buy them drinks.
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Old 06-02-2004, 03:31 PM   #5
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What a dumbass - doesn't he realize the purpose of ladies night is to get them liquored up, shed their inhibitions and get them into bed?

Probably a fat fuck that no amount of alcohol in any women will help...
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Old 06-02-2004, 03:31 PM   #6
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what a fucking idiot that guy is. now the sausage to hottie ratio is gonna be 50 : 1. ah well, i'll stick to my long island guido clubs
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Old 06-02-2004, 03:31 PM   #7
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Those guys are pussy, pay the extra for the beer and get the hot chicks drooling over you
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Old 06-02-2004, 03:32 PM   #8
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I think that is the most stupidest thing they have ever done. There is nothing more sexier than a Jersey Girl. In fact many people have written songs about them...
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Old 06-02-2004, 03:33 PM   #9
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I think that is the most stupidest thing they have ever done. There is nothing more sexier than a Jersey Girl. In fact many people have written songs about them...
lol I like your nick "yenta"
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Old 06-02-2004, 04:34 PM   #10
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Old 06-02-2004, 04:55 PM   #11
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what a fucking idiot that guy is. now the sausage to hottie ratio is gonna be 50 : 1. ah well, i'll stick to my long island guido clubs
you're crazy. before it just helped women decide what bars to go to, now with the different rules it will only have them go to different bars. its not like they're going to stay home because of this.
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Old 06-02-2004, 04:59 PM   #12
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That is the so stupid
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Old 06-02-2004, 05:01 PM   #13
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you're crazy. before it just helped women decide what bars to go to, now with the different rules it will only have them go to different bars. its not like they're going to stay home because of this.
its gonna hurt the ratio at the hotter clubs and bars because most of these women cant turn down a free night. i know i wouldnt turn one down if i was a woman. so now, most of them are just gonna hit cheaper bars and clubs just because the cover charges and drinks will be less then the old hotspots
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Old 06-02-2004, 05:08 PM   #14
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that guy has to be a fag, who bitches about a $5 cover fuckin scum bag goes sues and shit
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Old 06-02-2004, 05:08 PM   #15
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What a dumbass - doesn't he realize the purpose of ladies night is to get them liquored up, shed their inhibitions and get them into bed?

Probably a fat fuck that no amount of alcohol in any women will help...
Pretty much.. probably a homo.
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Old 06-02-2004, 05:11 PM   #16
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Well, I think some tavern owners are going to feel the pinch. I'm sure many of them got good crowds of women looking for a cheap night and men looking for a lot of woman.
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Old 06-02-2004, 05:20 PM   #17
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If you guys think about the wider repercussions of judicial rulings like this, you should be happy. It's the first step to eradicating more serious inequalities like expensive insurance penalties simply for being born male.

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Old 06-02-2004, 05:23 PM   #18
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They wanted equal rights...they got them! LOL

Now I'll be more than willing to let them have ladies night if they would just get back into the kitchen and cook.
j/k you guys don't all gang up on me at once.
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Old 06-02-2004, 05:25 PM   #19
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I think the important issue here is the government once again stepping in and telling someone what they can and can't do with their business. I mean the solution is simple here. People don't have to go to bars and clubs as a means to survive. If a private business wants to make rules like "ladies night' or whatever and someone doesn't like it then they don't have to fucking go there.
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Thats fucking stupidest thing I have ever heard....
I agree. I heard that shit on the news today and my jaw dropped.
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I think the important issue here is the government once again stepping in and telling someone what they can and can't do with their business. I mean the solution is simple here. People don't have to go to bars and clubs as a means to survive. If a private business wants to make rules like "ladies night' or whatever and someone doesn't like it then they don't have to fucking go there.
Individually people should be able to do/say anything they want. But once you start a business or a corporation, you become a sort of government. You provide services, make rules, etc. I would argue business influences society more than government.

Would it be ok for a business to offer deep discounts only to whites?
How is that much different from restaurants refusing to serve blacks?
Just charge blacks $1000 a drink and you have legal apartheid?
You don't have to go to a resturaunt to survive...

Automobile insurance is a private industry, but you are required to have liability by the government. Yet, men are usually charged double what women are, with identical driving history. That IMO violates the rights of individuals who are unfairly discriminated against based on being born the wrong sex.

If you go to a bar and have to pay more because you were born the wrong sex or race, that is equally unfair.
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Old 06-02-2004, 08:33 PM   #22
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sweet. too bad its only new jersey. if girls dont want to pay for drinks they will need to find some chump to buy them drinks.

Thats a real struggle for a hot chick, considering the shortage of chumps nowadays
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Ladies Night! (not applicable to fat chicks)


someone should try that
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Old 06-02-2004, 08:38 PM   #26
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Sad. This is just a sad sad thing. No ladies night? What kind of fruit flavored asswipe came up with that rule?
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Well said, bureaucratic nonsense.
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Crazy...next the woman won't be able to show nipples and have to wear panties when they strip like in the olden days
No, quite the opposite. Equal protection means a woman cannot be punished for showing her bare chest when/where/if a man is allowed to.
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No, quite the opposite. Equal protection means a woman cannot be punished for showing her bare chest when/where/if a man is allowed to.
So to make a topless club legal, they just have to let them men in the club go shirtless too! Yay, no more pasties!
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