Here's how that convo should have went::::

[amacontent] - Hi, wanna shoot for me?

[nina] - No!

[amacontent] - OK, have a nice day:winkwink:

Ok ok ... it's over now .

Moral of the story : Don't post stupid personal stories on GFY, NOBODY gives a fuck

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I'm pissing in my pants right now !

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Correct amundo!

As far as I can see the drama queen is simonsynister, posting private convo logs. Yet I don't get why AMA goes this mad on this chick saying no. There are thousands of talented shooters and this guy insists and insists on somebody new with no experience just wishing to start? OK, whatever, first page

:glugglug

That's what I'm talking about, nice to see somebody with a working brain :)

me either:1orglaugh

the reason I posted the convo was because on her thread he tried to sugar coat the situtation, she got pissed and wanted to post it..There was no problem..she just didn't want to work with him ..end of discussion...he got bent out of shape and wanted to insult her..

Sounds to me Ama wouldn't stop, because he couldn't understand what the fuck was wrong with the girl! or understand what she was saying She barely made any sense from one message to the next when I read it! From my dealings with Ama... he's very professional and helpful to new people... I think you guys sound like the weird ones! :2 cents:

Well, I don't know either party personally, but just from reading that log it sure looks like someone over-reacted. She could have just got to the point at the beginning and said something to the effect of:

Why thank you so much for the offer, it is appreciated, however I have decided that I would rather not shoot for any other producer and would rather do all the shooting and sales for myself at this time. I will however keep your generous offer in mind for the future as I am new to the game and things may change.

Now, like in all business, you may not mean it exactly that way, but you say it that way....you sound professional and you keep all your doors open because no one knows what the future may bring and you want people on your side.

Just my :2 cents:

SHE DID...

With all due respect Simon - your lady could have handled this better as well. When I have someone hastling me on ICQ, I simply hit my "block" button and I never hear from them again. It's quick, it's painless and it works flawlessly :thumbsup

Good luck to you and your lady in the content biz. It's a hard and difficult line of work man :thumbsup

You dumb shit . you did more to hurt her with this thread than anyone could have. I wanted her because I wanted a women POV, not your garbage..OK. And if you wanna start the shit about me catching STD a couple times, well Ill save you the trouble.. Yes GFY , I caught it a couple of times, as has half the porn industry. Hazzards of the job.

I take it I am the chris said there?

it happends a few times a year for all of us in the industry... like you said a job hazard... god bless medicine and the stupid whores that gave it to me

SHE DID... and thanks for the heads up about the biz

WHAT!!! are you talking about!!!?? I didn't know anything about that!

the real drama just begun :)

DIdnt know anything about that... HMM should we look back at the numerous times you referred to reason why I needed take week off from shooting. Does that refresh your memory

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Sure..thanks!

new ICQ from JOE..I love how he now refers to Nina as a WHORE"

amacontent [7:39 PM] :
what the fuck is your problem fucko, you want an on board war u got one
amacontent [7:39 PM] :
as u can see by the responses to your post , people think youre a moron
amacontent [7:39 PM] :
all i did was offer the whore work
amacontent [7:39 PM] :
you truely are a dumbass
amacontent [7:39 PM] :
i never said anything bad , matter or fact i gave her every chance to prove her professionalism and youve done nothing more than make her look bad
amacontent [7:39 PM] :
LOL now you post on EBs thread, that will make him happy. man you are a dumb shit , I dont even need reply.. youve done more for me than I could have
amacontent [7:39 PM] :
"WHAT!!! are you talking about!!!?? I didn't know anything about that!"
you are a lying schuck , should i go back in history and find your quotes referring the reason why i needed time off, HUH !!!!

amacontent [7:39 PM] :
should i go for the kill and REALLY make u look like a dick
amacontent [7:39 PM] :
i was just trying to help your girl you pair of idiots

Funny thing is , I was legitamately trying to help your girl out as I know how difficult it is to get started, now it turns out you both working of the SOBE GIRL handbook. Too bad. You could learn a thing or 2 also Simon. Ive work with various photographers and video ographers to enhance my skills... Dean Capture has helped immensely.. Brian from Won Ton girls alot. But your too THICK headed to see big picture.

Hell even Tony from Ghost Pro showed me the light and woke me up a bit. We had our differences and I was wrong on some things and he called me out on it in public at a trade show. I didnt like what I heard, but he was right

amacontent [7:39 PM] :
all i did was offer the whore work


nice joe ..real nice

I see someone trying to make a name for themselves by knocking on someone that is established here...

Is it just me?

Sinister folks your running the wrong way, it does not help to brawl another business with the idea that it will create more business for your own venture.

That shit does not work anymore.

Pick up the pieces and take this mess as a lesson.

Not sure if anyone else has already said this or not, but I DID read that whole icq log and it looks to me like he was wanting a FEMALE shooter for a different perspective. Or so it seems that way to me from reading it.

Women can put a whole new spin on things in some ways and when you want to get that, then you go for the women that are needing the jobs, not another man that is going to put the same spin on it.

And it is NEVER bad to check out the competition, we all do it. :thumbsup

from what i've seen i would take simon over ama any day of the week.

but it doesn't matter.

what the content business sorely needs is fresh people with a different way of looking at things. we needs lots of different people shooting, and it really doesn't take a genius to hold a stabilized dv cam---a chimpanzee can do it. we just need more imagination than a chimpanzee.

i love it when you guys talk of your "studios"---a few sticks of pier one furniture and some pastel walls, gimme a fuckin' break.

gonzo should all be shot on location to make it look real.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tam
[B]

Women can put a whole new spin on things in some ways and when you want to get that, then you go for the women that are needing the jobs, not another man that is going to put the same spin on it.



exactly correct.

ever look at IFC or the Sundance channel and look at the stuff female filmmakers shoot?

completely different way of looking at the world. i'd love to see girls shoot smut, and i would probably buy some if it was any good, here's why:

of all the groups increasingly looking at online smut, guess what group is increasing the most?

it ain't the raincoaters---it's the girls.

AMEN brother!

all women are whores... if there in this industry there whores

[QUOTE]Originally posted by latinasojourn
[B] PREACH BROTHER PREACH!!!!

Well I ain't a brother....... I am one of those "whores" in the business............ rotfl

All women in the business are whores.......... that's the funniest thing I have ever read in my life. I am very much female, very much in this industry and very much NOT a whore.......... LMAO

From the looks of the timeline here Simon you fired the first shot by posting an ICQ conversation in one of AMa's content announcement threads out of the FUCKING blue!

Your stupid ass got ignored in that thread then you come and make this thread.

I know where this is going and it is definatly appearent that your playing the drama whore in this.

Its a pretty shitty fucking thing to do...

:2 cents:

Ama is a fucking pro and bottom feeders like you are remembered.

I beg to differ on that one... and if the girls are whores... then what does that make you??

that is who I thought he was referring to

i will make some simple observations about the adult web business currently:

1. female surfers are increasingly buying memberships---i see more girl CC names every day.

2. there is a dearth of quality authentic g/g content. the vast majority of content available to purchase is b/g, but good g/g has very broad appeal to both male and female surfers.

3. very rarely do guys shot girl/girl in an authentic way. most guys have no clue as to how real girls actually make love and have sex---so they shoot it in a very rough and clumsy way, totally wrong, and it's more of a turnoff than a turnon.

girls are into kissing, foreplay, nipple sucking, 69, muffdiving, sho finger banging (with short fingernails), tribadism, and some strapon fucking. girls typically use their fingers and mouths more than dildos and vibrators.

IF a gal shoot g/g you would have shit that would really convert, and if it was technically good it would sell big-time.

most guys don't have the head for it.

(ok alex derenzy did in his rosebud series) but that's about it.

Agree 100%
It is sad that someone has to got the lengths to try make a name for themselves at the expense of someones good name. We use Joe, we like Joe, he has always been right on time, and always great for a laugh at all the shows, his content is Fucking great, and I dont know what the problem is?

My advise for simonsynister....work hard and build up your own name!:2 cents:
http://www.smashbucks.com/shut1.jpg

Thanx man , hope to see you in San Diego. Amazing how people who talk the most shit , never appear at a show.