How are you getting cards in the users hands?

EDIT: 50 Visa Rules

I'm all for alternative billing solutions.

IMHO, options like Duocash, etc boil down to found money!
So why not deploy an alternative method?

As I said in my post, we currently have three ways to get the cards to the customer

One, Physical:

We are right now in about 3k stores in the US. We will be in about 11k stores in the US and Canada by the end of the summer. This will basically put us within about 15 minutes of almost every consumer in North America.

Two, Online:

We have two online partners that are distibuting virtual cards, (it will be three by the end of this week). You would be surprised at how many people that will not entrust their CC info to an adult site, WILL be willing to give that info to a pre-paid telcom site.

Three, Phone:

We have a call center partner that is selling the cards over the phone right now.

All good stuff! I'd still like to hear from the original guy that started this thread in response to my posts.

Brad

Doesn't doucash have a signup fee? Around 1500$ or so...

:)

Sorry, didn't see this question until now. Actually, we have waived all set up fees for the time being, so putting Duocash on your site is a NO LOSE situation. The worst thing that could happen is that you don't see any increased revenues and you have spent 2 hours settting it up.

Hmm... Which one should I answer?..

Yes.
Agreed.

Cyberxxx, I guess I was hoping you would address my original concerns about your web site being incomplete, etc and not appearing ready to do business. No harm intended, I just felt that you should clear some of these things up if you want people to seriously consider your alternative.

Brad

Actually I have no relation to DSMcard - the site mentioned in the article :) It is NOT a my site.

My apologies, that was the impression I had. Perhaps if you know the owner you could have him come visit this thread.

Brad

A point to ponder:
I understand what you and Aaron are saying (and I'm not saying the alternatives discussed here are fantastic) but personally I do NOT like Visa telling me what kind of content I can and cannot produce and sell. I do NOT like Visa telling us that chicks can stick baseball bats up there twats but we're not allowed to depict ourselves being sexual when we're on the rag or when it is and isn't okay to include piss in sex play, etc.

Hey, I know other people are just in this biz for the money, and could care less about portraying honest sexuality or challenging fucked up misogynistic stereotypes -- but how can we have five billion images of facials . . . and never once show a chick with a bloody twat? That's ridiculous.

The period thing is just an example -- I don't have a problem with the chargeback ratios or anything like that, and I believe I run my sites with an above-standard level of integrity. I just don't think it's cool for Visa to discriminate against sites that shows women being sexual during all four weeks of the month, but it's cool to process payments for bukkake and all that bullshit.

So for now, I'll go with verotel for my "disgusting" period content.:
http://bloodytrixie.com The period thing is just an example, and yeah . . . I know most people have no interest in this content and are happy sticking with tried and true niches like the tiresome bogus "reality" sites.

Again, I agree that an above-board operation has nothing to worry about with chargebacks, etc. Just wondered if anyone was giving the issue of free speech any thought whatsoever.

What info do you need to get set up?

We've given quite a bit of thought to free speech issues.. I believe they're very much the center of many of today's issues. Come talk to us about your site :thumbsup

Cheers,

Brad

I still have the playboy one you guys sent out. Sucks when you're drunk and give it to the old waitress at Ihop by accident.
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