Legal Documents...Model Release/Photographer release - GoFuckYourself.com

RightHandMan · 05-31-2004, 11:36 AM

Im Having trouble drafting my new model release forms and photographer release forms for the upcoming summer season...do any of you know where i can get a few templates for them or the actual forms?

And what do you guys do about legal representation?

I just want to make sure all my bases are covered before i get into all this...

AaronM · 05-31-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by RightHandMan
I just want to make sure all my bases are covered before i get into all this...

Then quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

RightHandMan · 05-31-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Then quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

Not to step on your toes there fella, but thats what im looking to do, im looking to get information, that is all, i want to be able to understand this shit...

AaronM · 05-31-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by RightHandMan
Not to step on your toes there fella, but thats what im looking to do, im looking to get information, that is all, i want to be able to understand this shit...

Then quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

RightHandMan · 05-31-2004, 11:44 AM

If I had the money to pay a lawyer $1000 bucks an hour to draw up something i could do just as well myself, i wouldnt be talking to you right now...step on

AaronM · 05-31-2004, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by RightHandMan
If I had the money to pay a lawyer $1000 bucks an hour to draw up something i could do just as well myself, i wouldnt be talking to you right now...step on

If you could do it just as well yourself then you would not be asking about it here.

If you can not afford an attorney then you clearly can not afford to be in this business.

Quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

If you like...I will email some info to you on a great attorney who can help you with this for far less than $1000 per hour.

RightHandMan · 05-31-2004, 11:48 AM

Aaron, you talk shit to me, then you help me...must be the GFY way...

my e-mail is [email protected]

LadyMischief · 05-31-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Then quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

Lifer · 05-31-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

Not

This forum is not very helpful... just a bunch of big dicks trying to prove themselves day after day.

You really have to wade through the shit just to get a decent answer. Pretty sad.

Of course, had you posted some boobs, and said you needed to document their release, these corn balls would have dragged their balls a half mile over broken glass just to get their count up.

Go figure...

AaronM · 05-31-2004, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by RightHandMan
Aaron, you talk shit to me, then you help me...must be the GFY way...

my e-mail is [email protected]

I didn't talk shit......I posted hard info.

Quit being a pussy.

Email is on it's way.

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Originally posted by Lifer
Not

This forum is not very helpful... just a bunch of big dicks trying to prove themselves day after day.

You really have to wade through the shit just to get a decent answer. Pretty sad.

Of course, had you posted some boobs, and said you needed to document their release, these corn balls would have dragged their balls a half mile over broken glass just to get their count up.

Go figure...

Pay attention to the board name. How about if you go post on hugsandkisses.com instead?

Fucking tool.

LadyMischief · 05-31-2004, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Lifer
Not

This forum is not very helpful... just a bunch of big dicks trying to prove themselves day after day.

You really have to wade through the shit just to get a decent answer. Pretty sad.

Of course, had you posted some boobs, and said you needed to document their release, these corn balls would have dragged their balls a half mile over broken glass just to get their count up.

Go figure...

Really? I don't know about that... Actually, what Aaron said was correct, if you're going to shoot content and you don't have the money to get yourself a lawyer to go over your documents, you shouldn't be fucking shooting content. Why? Because when you fuck up, it makes it harder for those in the industry who ARE doing things the right way. Content can be a risky gig as it is... when people cheap out and figure it will all slide, they are making MY job harder, Aaron's job harder, and all the other content shooters/sellers who are willing to put out the bucks to protect their own asses. All it takes is ONE fuckup to put us ALL under the scope.

Do you not get that?? It doesn't just apply to content either. If you are IN THIS INDUSTRY WHATSOEVER and don't have a lawyer, you are just asking for fucking trouble.

AaronM · 05-31-2004, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by RightHandMan
Aaron, you talk shit to me, then you help me...must be the GFY way...

my e-mail is [email protected]

Yahoo?

Christ.

[email protected]

Lifer · 05-31-2004, 12:03 PM

Yeah! My tool in your ass cum wipe

RightHandMan · 05-31-2004, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Yahoo?

Christ.

[email protected]

Pop 3 server is down...my host sucks monkey nutz

AaronM · 05-31-2004, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Lifer
Yeah! My tool in your ass cum wipe

Ah...You bring such a convincing arguement to the table too.

LadyMischief · 05-31-2004, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by Lifer
Yeah! My tool in your ass cum wipe

Wow! That was so profound and intelligent.. A true gem and a worthy contribution to a business discussion. Man, are you for hire? I want you on my team!

Lifer · 05-31-2004, 12:22 PM

Drama everywhere.

If you have your shit together, it doesn't matter that that other guy did. If he wants to cheap out... it's his ass.

I think one of the objectives of this board is to help.

And the tone makes the music.

So if that ass wipe wants to give wise ass answers fuck'em.

I might not be profound or intelligent... but if a person asked for help... or even asked me to do it before he really tried to find the answer on his own, I would either ignore the post... or tell him in a nice way what the proper course of action is.

I would say he is a cheap MF... even if I thought it.

What do you defend that ass for? It wasn't your biz?

AaronM · 05-31-2004, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Lifer
Drama everywhere.

If you have your shit together, it doesn't matter that that other guy did. If he wants to cheap out... it's his ass.

I think one of the objectives of this board is to help.

And the tone makes the music.

So if that ass wipe wants to give wise ass answers fuck'em.

I might not be profound or intelligent... but if a person asked for help... or even asked me to do it before he really tried to find the answer on his own, I would either ignore the post... or tell him in a nice way what the proper course of action is.

I would say he is a cheap MF... even if I thought it.

What do you defend that ass for? It wasn't your biz?

I emailed him the info he was looking for.

WTF have you done to help the situation?

Oh yeah...Nothing.

Keep running your mouth...Tool.

LadyMischief · 05-31-2004, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Lifer
Drama everywhere.

If you have your shit together, it doesn't matter that that other guy did. If he wants to cheap out... it's his ass.

I think one of the objectives of this board is to help.

And the tone makes the music.

So if that ass wipe wants to give wise ass answers fuck'em.

I might not be profound or intelligent... but if a person asked for help... or even asked me to do it before he really tried to find the answer on his own, I would either ignore the post... or tell him in a nice way what the proper course of action is.

I would say he is a cheap MF... even if I thought it.

What do you defend that ass for? It wasn't your biz?

Did you read nothing I wrote? ONE guy gets his ass busted, and it puts us all in a bad light.. Apparently you need to find a new business too, or you need to learn reading comprehension.

Lifer · 05-31-2004, 12:36 PM

Piss off Lady.

And I had emailed him with a zip already...

Where is that guy anyway... I guess he left us to duke it out.

Why don't you two go make out somewhere?

RightHandMan · 05-31-2004, 12:43 PM

im here

RightHandMan · 05-31-2004, 12:44 PM

im here...i just dont feel like getting into a pissmatch...i came looking for info. This thread turned out to be a piss match, dont want to be a part of it

AaronM · 05-31-2004, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by Lifer
Piss off Lady.

And I had emailed him with a zip already...

Where is that guy anyway... I guess he left us to duke it out.

Why don't you two go make out somewhere?

Yeah...A zip file that most likely contains legal info from Germany...I'm sure that will be helpful.

Tool.

LadyMischief · 05-31-2004, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by RightHandMan
im here...i just dont feel like getting into a pissmatch...i came looking for info. This thread turned out to be a piss match, dont want to be a part of it

That's cool.. at least you get it.. Too bad idiotstick there doesn't have a clue.

Lifer · 05-31-2004, 12:52 PM

Here is a lady (?) from Hickville who sells shitty content telling me I don't get it.

You don't know me.

It's not your business.

I didn't say Aaron was wrong, I said his attitude sucks.

And that's true.

Speaking of sucking... your profile says promote eating people... so do me.

Shampoo boy... get a life. Weiner

I'm US by the way

Lifer · 05-31-2004, 12:53 PM

RightHandMan... did you get the zip?

ModelPerfect · 05-31-2004, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Lifer
Drama everywhere.

If you have your shit together, it doesn't matter that that other guy did. If he wants to cheap out... it's his ass.

I think one of the objectives of this board is to help.

And the tone makes the music.

So if that ass wipe wants to give wise ass answers fuck'em.

I might not be profound or intelligent... but if a person asked for help... or even asked me to do it before he really tried to find the answer on his own, I would either ignore the post... or tell him in a nice way what the proper course of action is.

I would say he is a cheap MF... even if I thought it.

What do you defend that ass for? It wasn't your biz?

The best advice anyone on or off this board could give on this issue is "get a lawyer". This is too important an issue to go about half-assed and trusting people's advice who's credentials or legal knowledge you have no way of verfifying. Sure, AaronM could have been nicer about it, but like he said, this is GFY and you have to learn quick to have tougher skin around here. My advice is: don't trust a board for legal advice...talk to an actual lawyer.

Shoehorn! · 05-31-2004, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

Pay attention to the board name. How about if you go post on hugsandkisses.com instead?

Lifer · 05-31-2004, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by ModelPerfect
The best advice anyone on or off this board could give on this issue is "get a lawyer". This is too important an issue to go about half-assed and trusting people's advice who's credentials or legal knowledge you have no way of verfifying. Sure, AaronM could have been nicer about it, but like he said, this is GFY and you have to learn quick to have tougher skin around here. My advice is: don't trust a board for legal advice...talk to an actual lawyer.

Thank you...

I checked your site.

You got some nice content. Like your spash too.

I'll need some stuff in a couple weeks... will look at what you have. I was really surprised, cuz I had never seen your site before.

Who did your design work?

ModelPerfect · 05-31-2004, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Lifer
Thank you...

I checked your site.

You got some nice content. Like your spash too.

I'll need some stuff in a couple weeks... will look at what you have. I was really surprised, cuz I had never seen your site before.

Who did your design work?

Digifan from www.dreamdesigns4u.com did the splash, and I did the rest. Digifan's awesome and treats people right. You can email her at: digifan [at] dreamdesigns4u.com

hitinface · 05-31-2004, 07:26 PM

Get a lawyer but you can at least download the forms at www.adultsitelaw.com. I would download it and then have a lawyer review it..

hitinface

ModelPerfect · 05-31-2004, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by hitinface
Get a lawyer but you can at least download the forms at www.adultsitelaw.com. I would download it and then have a lawyer review it..

hitinface

Out of curiosity, where did those forms come from, and what qualifications does the author(s) have?

pussyluver · 05-31-2004, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Really? I don't know about that... Actually, what Aaron said was correct, if you're going to shoot content and you don't have the money to get yourself a lawyer to go over your documents, you shouldn't be fucking shooting content. Why? Because when you fuck up, it makes it harder for those in the industry who ARE doing things the right way. Content can be a risky gig as it is... when people cheap out and figure it will all slide, they are making MY job harder, Aaron's job harder, and all the other content shooters/sellers who are willing to put out the bucks to protect their own asses. All it takes is ONE fuckup to put us ALL under the scope.

Do you not get that?? It doesn't just apply to content either. If you are IN THIS INDUSTRY WHATSOEVER and don't have a lawyer, you are just asking for fucking trouble.

I don't need to make enemies on the board, but Christ you ?pros? are acting like shitheads with their collective asses in the sand! ??when you fuck up, it makes it harder for those in the industry who ARE doing things the right way?. If you think there aren?t thousands of would be pornographers shooting and posting with out benefit of a contract let alone a lawyer, then you?re blinder than I thought. Perhaps a stroll through Yahoo might enlighten you a bit.

Point being, these people are going to shoot that porn whether you mouth off or not. So helping them along which at least one of you did do is the smart thing. Did ya have to whip his sorry ass along the way too? Oh yeah, it?s the GFY way.

While we?re at it, what did you think, every successful webmaster started out with a drawer full of cash and a law firm on retainer? Right!!!

LadyMischief · 05-31-2004, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by ModelPerfect
Out of curiosity, where did those forms come from, and what qualifications does the author(s) have?

That and the fact that some specifics of laws will vary from state to state, unless they are written locally and with local laws in mind, they could miss very important elements of protection for all parties involved. Touchy stuff.

LadyMischief · 05-31-2004, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Lifer
Here is a lady (?) from Hickville who sells shitty content telling me I don't get it.

You don't know me.

It's not your business.

I didn't say Aaron was wrong, I said his attitude sucks.

And that's true.

Speaking of sucking... your profile says promote eating people... so do me.

Shampoo boy... get a life. Weiner

I'm US by the way

Yep, apparently you got it all figured out. You haven't even seen my site, have you? Dumbass/

pussyluver · 05-31-2004, 08:29 PM

Just curious LadyMischief, I looked at your site and did a peak at your meta tags. I did see a PIC tag. Did your lawyers advise you to leave that out?

pussyluver · 05-31-2004, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by pussyluver
Just curious LadyMischief, I looked at your site and did a peak at your meta tags. I did see a PIC tag. Did your lawyers advise you to leave that out?

BTW, that was a question, not a flame.

LadyMischief · 05-31-2004, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by pussyluver
Just curious LadyMischief, I looked at your site and did a peak at your meta tags. I did see a PIC tag. Did your lawyers advise you to leave that out?

? Hit me up on icq I am not sure what you mean? Last I heard my Lawyers didn't do html, just law :P

AMADude · 05-31-2004, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by RightHandMan

I just want to make sure all my bases are covered before i get into all this...

All your base are belong to us.

pussyluver · 05-31-2004, 08:53 PM

For those that may be new and not know ? a PIC tag can identify you as an adult content site and help protect children from seeing what many parents prefer they don?t.. Many law firms don?t know jack about HTML it would appear and might miss this. I am not an attorney, but I think it is of moral value to include the info on your site and to list with an organization like ICRA. Could you use it as some protection in court??? Don?t know. Would it be an open admission to something??? That?s why you hire an attorney, one that knows his/her stuff. Assuming you have the cash. Until then, wing it and use resources available online.

Got to believe 95%+ of those on GFY know about this. If you don?t, take a look at:
icra.org

pussyluver · 05-31-2004, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by pussyluver
Just curious LadyMischief, I looked at your site and did a peak at your meta tags. I did see a PIC tag. Did your lawyers advise you to leave that out?

That should read didn't see

steffie · 05-31-2004, 08:59 PM

My Attorney only charged $ 250.00 for a one page model release. He is familiar with them. Call around a bit, look for Media Attornies they normally have Model release forms already and won't charge much

pussyluver · 05-31-2004, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by steffie
My Attorney only charged $ 250.00 for a one page model release. He is familiar with them. Call around a bit, look for Media Attornies they normally have Model release forms already and won't charge much

Thanks. Live in a midwest city. Chances are the attorney is going to advise "don't do that"!

Many firms of value or size won't touch it here.

JohnW · 05-31-2004, 10:43 PM

1st rule of operating a content production business: Consult a lawyer and get your paper work in order before snapping any pics of shooting any video.

2nd rule of operating a content production business: DON'T consult anyone on GFY for anything other than finding out if the majority of these pudknockers would "hit" any of your models...

;)

J.

Jimmy Lifestyles · 06-01-2004, 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by JohnW

2nd rule of operating a content production business: DON'T consult anyone on GFY for anything other than finding out if the majority of these pudknockers would "hit" any of your models...
.

Yeah, thats all i thought the buard was good for, that and stroking egos.

Lifer · 06-01-2004, 04:20 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Yep, apparently you got it all figured out. You haven't even seen my site, have you? Dumbass/

Sure... I checked your site out.

That is how I knew you have shitty content.

Is Foxxy #1 you? You know... the fat ugly one?

Great content...

Lifer · 06-01-2004, 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Yep, apparently you got it all figured out. You haven't even seen my site, have you? Dumbass/

Here... let me help you out a little.

LadyMischief's premium content:

http://www.jactcontent.com/nav/set/98111274

You be the judge. Pretty HOT HOT HOT!!

Mr. Marks · 06-01-2004, 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Then quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

Best advice you'll ever get!

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Lifer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Working Posts: 871	Drama everywhere. If you have your shit together, it doesn't matter that that other guy did. If he wants to cheap out... it's his ass. I think one of the objectives of this board is to help. And the tone makes the music. So if that ass wipe wants to give wise ass answers fuck'em. I might not be profound or intelligent... but if a person asked for help... or even asked me to do it before he really tried to find the answer on his own, I would either ignore the post... or tell him in a nice way what the proper course of action is. I would say he is a cheap MF... even if I thought it. What do you defend that ass for? It wasn't your biz? __________________ CCBill Sponsor Programs Get Paid On Time - Everytime!

05-31-2004, 12:36 PM	#20
Lifer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Working Posts: 871	Piss off Lady. And I had emailed him with a zip already... Where is that guy anyway... I guess he left us to duke it out. Why don't you two go make out somewhere? __________________ CCBill Sponsor Programs Get Paid On Time - Everytime!

05-31-2004, 11:36 AM	#1
RightHandMan Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,694	Legal Documents...Model Release/Photographer release Im Having trouble drafting my new model release forms and photographer release forms for the upcoming summer season...do any of you know where i can get a few templates for them or the actual forms? And what do you guys do about legal representation? I just want to make sure all my bases are covered before i get into all this... __________________

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RightHandMan Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,694	im here __________________

05-31-2004, 12:44 PM	#22
RightHandMan Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,694	im here...i just dont feel like getting into a pissmatch...i came looking for info. This thread turned out to be a piss match, dont want to be a part of it __________________

05-31-2004, 12:52 PM	#25
Lifer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Working Posts: 871	Here is a lady (?) from Hickville who sells shitty content telling me I don't get it. You don't know me. It's not your business. I didn't say Aaron was wrong, I said his attitude sucks. And that's true. Speaking of sucking... your profile says promote eating people... so do me. Shampoo boy... get a life. Weiner I'm US by the way __________________ CCBill Sponsor Programs Get Paid On Time - Everytime!

05-31-2004, 12:53 PM	#26
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05-31-2004, 07:26 PM	#31
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pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Just curious LadyMischief, I looked at your site and did a peak at your meta tags. I did see a PIC tag. Did your lawyers advise you to leave that out?

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pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	For those that may be new and not know ? a PIC tag can identify you as an adult content site and help protect children from seeing what many parents prefer they don?t.. Many law firms don?t know jack about HTML it would appear and might miss this. I am not an attorney, but I think it is of moral value to include the info on your site and to list with an organization like ICRA. Could you use it as some protection in court??? Don?t know. Would it be an open admission to something??? That?s why you hire an attorney, one that knows his/her stuff. Assuming you have the cash. Until then, wing it and use resources available online. Got to believe 95%+ of those on GFY know about this. If you don?t, take a look at: icra.org

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steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	My Attorney only charged $ 250.00 for a one page model release. He is familiar with them. Call around a bit, look for Media Attornies they normally have Model release forms already and won't charge much __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

05-31-2004, 10:43 PM	#44
JohnW Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: under your bed Posts: 642	1st rule of operating a content production business: Consult a lawyer and get your paper work in order before snapping any pics of shooting any video. 2nd rule of operating a content production business: DON'T consult anyone on GFY for anything other than finding out if the majority of these pudknockers would "hit" any of your models... ;) J.