So, I'm on the market for a 3chip camera - GoFuckYourself.com

J-Reel · 05-30-2004, 01:44 PM

and after doing a some research, I really like the Panasonic AG-DVC80. It is essentially the same camera as the DVX100a, same 1/3 inch CCD's, same lens, same audio components.... Without the progressive scan and 24p. Which I don't care about because I'm not interested in the film look, I want crisp clears pictures so my members can get a good jerk on.

It seems Pana's cameras are getting rave reviews for there Leica Dicomar lenses and superb audio over the sony's. I also heard there have been audio problems with the PD170.

Here's my choices... sony VX2100, PD170. Pana DVC80, DVX100a

What do you educated videographers think?

P.S. The DVC80 is $1300 bucks cheaper then the DVX100a.

J-Reel · 05-30-2004, 01:48 PM

Damn... Check out the Price for this baby...

http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp...dvc80&l=google

3-CCD Hand Held Mini-DV Camcorder: 1/3 3-CCD Mini-DV camcorder w/Precision Wide-angle Lens w/Servo/Manual Zoom (stops & barrel markings). Auto / Manual Focus f1.6 w/72mm filter size. F11 @2000 lux, min illumination: 3 lux (at +18dB). Advanced optical image stabilization. Conventional 4:3 aspect ratio & 16:9 letterbox image capture modes. 6 User settable Scene Files & 2 direct access User Set buttons. S-Video, Video & Stereo Audio IN & OUT. IEEE 1394 interface (in/out) for transfer of digital video/audio to NLE platforms. 2ch XLR audio inputs w/phantom power supply (48V) & manual audio levels. Flip-out 270 3.5 LCD panel w/superimposed audio metering on both LCD & EVF. Well balanced & highly portable. 4.2 lbs in full operating condition. 1.6 Ah Battery, AC Adapter, Mic holder, remote control, shoulder strap, lens cap, cleaning tape

DirtyDanza · 05-30-2004, 02:07 PM

I shoot with a vx2100 my partner shoots with a dvx100a there both great cameras the only advantage the dvx100a has is the 3.5 inch lcd.. I love my sony you can't go wrong with sony... here is a clip shot with my sony

http://www.dirtydanza.com/nikki.wmv you can't beat the vx2100 in my opnion.. the 24p really is not that noticable... only to the trained eye your surfers will not notice... you can icq me if you have any questions..

J-Reel · 05-30-2004, 02:24 PM

Thanks for the input Dirty...

I'm still liking the Pana... It's got to be the best camera for the money. It's got 1/3 inch chips and a great lens, for $2100.

Sony has the better lux rating, but I don't shoot in low light. I use lights. and 3 lux ain't bad.

B and H has good prices

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=277532&is=REG

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=303956&is=REG

Paul Waters · 05-30-2004, 02:41 PM

I have had my Sony VX2100 for a month and I think it is excellent. I went Sony cause I was able to get a deal, and I already had one.

In truth, you will be happy with any one of the cameras you mentioned.

Go with the one that feels the best in your hands.

BV · 05-30-2004, 03:12 PM

the sony is built like a tank, i'd go for it,

i have the vx2000

Danny K · 05-30-2004, 04:56 PM

I'd go with the panasonic it has 24frames per second,
looks as great as film!

Jace · 05-30-2004, 05:04 PM

think of it this way though, if your doing it for a site, and that site gets big enough...why not get the best you can so you can archive all your tapes, then release a dvd of your best material later?

BV · 05-30-2004, 05:06 PM

24 fps needs a very steady hand or a tripod, especially when using zoom

SureFire · 05-30-2004, 05:42 PM

Cannon Xl 1s

http://www.canondv.com/xl1s/f.html

Kind of big but I like mine

PatrickKing · 05-30-2004, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SureFire
Cannon Xl 1s

http://www.canondv.com/xl1s/f.html

Kind of big but I like mine

Mee Too!

Danny K · 05-30-2004, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BV
24 fps needs a very steady hand or a tripod, especially when using zoom

so are u using it yourself ?

gage · 05-30-2004, 07:04 PM

if you want a smaller 3ccd cam i would go with the canon gl2 .. best colour that I have seen in a pro-sumer(or professional, for that matter) 3ccd cam. good luck -g

J-Reel · 05-30-2004, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danny K
I'd go with the panasonic it has 24frames per second,
looks as great as film!

I don't want the Film look. I want the live video look.

J-Reel · 05-30-2004, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
think of it this way though, if your doing it for a site, and that site gets big enough...why not get the best you can so you can archive all your tapes, then release a dvd of your best material later?

That's the plan.

Any 3 chip cam wiil be good for DVD as long as the lighting and audio are not compromised.

eatapeach · 05-30-2004, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gage
if you want a smaller 3ccd cam i would go with the canon gl2

the gl2 is an excellent choice and the prices have come down a bit lately. canon cameras are solidly built and have (imo) the best lenses.

the xl 1 s is cool, but it's overkill for 99.9 % of what pornographers shoot.

DirtyDanza · 05-30-2004, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J-Reel
Thanks for the input Dirty...

I'm still liking the Pana... It's got to be the best camera for the money. It's got 1/3 inch chips and a great lens, for $2100.

Sony has the better lux rating, but I don't shoot in low light. I use lights. and 3 lux ain't bad.

B and H has good prices

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=277532&is=REG

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=303956&is=REG

the vx2100 is 1/3 chips as well... trust me I have shot with both.. you will like the vx2100 better cause you can lock the iris and the panasonic you can but it still does not do the job that the vx2100 does....

KRL · 05-30-2004, 08:11 PM

Panasonic just introduced a 3 CCD cam for lightweight use. The GS200.

Danny K · 05-31-2004, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J-Reel
That's the plan.

Any 3 chip cam wiil be good for DVD as long as the lighting and audio are not compromised.

All of them, will be good for DVD's
you just need to know the basics of DVD Autoring,
or just go with the simple softs IDVD for Mac, and DVDIT for PC.

pimplink · 05-31-2004, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gage
if you want a smaller 3ccd cam i would go with the canon gl2 .. best colour that I have seen in a pro-sumer(or professional, for that matter) 3ccd cam. good luck -g

This sounds like a good choice too!

J-Reel · 05-31-2004, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirty_DS
the vx2100 is 1/3 chips as well... trust me I have shot with both.. you will like the vx2100 better cause you can lock the iris and the panasonic you can but it still does not do the job that the vx2100 does....

Yeah, I'm thinking Sony because of the better lux rating, I'll be using this camera for mainstream use too, and I'll be doing some nightlife bar scene shoots as well as live bands with this.

I also heard the audio hum in the PD170 is fixed.

axelcat · 05-31-2004, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J-Reel
Damn... Check out the Price for this baby...

http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp...dvc80&l=google

3-CCD Hand Held Mini-DV Camcorder: 1/3 3-CCD Mini-DV camcorder w/Precision Wide-angle Lens w/Servo/Manual Zoom (stops & barrel markings). Auto / Manual Focus f1.6 w/72mm filter size. F11 @2000 lux, min illumination: 3 lux (at +18dB). Advanced optical image stabilization. Conventional 4:3 aspect ratio & 16:9 letterbox image capture modes. 6 User settable Scene Files & 2 direct access User Set buttons. S-Video, Video & Stereo Audio IN & OUT. IEEE 1394 interface (in/out) for transfer of digital video/audio to NLE platforms. 2ch XLR audio inputs w/phantom power supply (48V) & manual audio levels. Flip-out 270 3.5 LCD panel w/superimposed audio metering on both LCD & EVF. Well balanced & highly portable. 4.2 lbs in full operating condition. 1.6 Ah Battery, AC Adapter, Mic holder, remote control, shoulder strap, lens cap, cleaning tape

Thats a nice camera

J-Reel · 05-31-2004, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eatapeach

the xl 1 s is cool, but it's overkill for 99.9 % of what pornographers shoot.

Wrong. That's the cam of choice down in the valley.

I just want something not as bulky.

I agree canon makes great camera's too.

J-Reel · 05-31-2004, 01:23 PM

I think I'm gonna get this package right here...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=308853&is=REG

The PD170 with a Hard case for $3400

I still need to get long life battery and Wide angle lens.

DirtyDanza · 05-31-2004, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J-Reel
I think I'm gonna get this package right here...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=308853&is=REG

The PD170 with a Hard case for $3400

I still need to get long life battery and Wide angle lens.

don't get the dvcam one get a minidv.. tapes are cheaper and you get the same quality... no difference at all... the only difference is the xlr imputs on the cam... which you can get an adptor for the vx2100 to get the xlr if you need em which I doubt you will...

05-30-2004, 01:44 PM	#1
J-Reel Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Boneprone's guest house Posts: 3,782	So, I'm on the market for a 3chip camera and after doing a some research, I really like the Panasonic AG-DVC80. It is essentially the same camera as the DVX100a, same 1/3 inch CCD's, same lens, same audio components.... Without the progressive scan and 24p. Which I don't care about because I'm not interested in the film look, I want crisp clears pictures so my members can get a good jerk on. It seems Pana's cameras are getting rave reviews for there Leica Dicomar lenses and superb audio over the sony's. I also heard there have been audio problems with the PD170. Here's my choices... sony VX2100, PD170. Pana DVC80, DVX100a What do you educated videographers think? P.S. The DVC80 is $1300 bucks cheaper then the DVX100a. __________________ Scheck out the new girls at www.hawtmoney.com ICQ 177-447-671

05-30-2004, 01:48 PM	#2
J-Reel Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Boneprone's guest house Posts: 3,782	Damn... Check out the Price for this baby... http://www.bwayphoto.com/product.asp...dvc80&l=google 3-CCD Hand Held Mini-DV Camcorder: 1/3 3-CCD Mini-DV camcorder w/Precision Wide-angle Lens w/Servo/Manual Zoom (stops & barrel markings). Auto / Manual Focus f1.6 w/72mm filter size. F11 @2000 lux, min illumination: 3 lux (at +18dB). Advanced optical image stabilization. Conventional 4:3 aspect ratio & 16:9 letterbox image capture modes. 6 User settable Scene Files & 2 direct access User Set buttons. S-Video, Video & Stereo Audio IN & OUT. IEEE 1394 interface (in/out) for transfer of digital video/audio to NLE platforms. 2ch XLR audio inputs w/phantom power supply (48V) & manual audio levels. Flip-out 270 3.5 LCD panel w/superimposed audio metering on both LCD & EVF. Well balanced & highly portable. 4.2 lbs in full operating condition. 1.6 Ah Battery, AC Adapter, Mic holder, remote control, shoulder strap, lens cap, cleaning tape __________________ Scheck out the new girls at www.hawtmoney.com ICQ 177-447-671

05-30-2004, 02:07 PM	#3
DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,373	I shoot with a vx2100 my partner shoots with a dvx100a there both great cameras the only advantage the dvx100a has is the 3.5 inch lcd.. I love my sony you can't go wrong with sony... here is a clip shot with my sony http://www.dirtydanza.com/nikki.wmv you can't beat the vx2100 in my opnion.. the 24p really is not that noticable... only to the trained eye your surfers will not notice... you can icq me if you have any questions.. __________________ Danza Bucks is back!!!

05-30-2004, 02:24 PM	#4
J-Reel Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Boneprone's guest house Posts: 3,782	Thanks for the input Dirty... I'm still liking the Pana... It's got to be the best camera for the money. It's got 1/3 inch chips and a great lens, for $2100. Sony has the better lux rating, but I don't shoot in low light. I use lights. and 3 lux ain't bad. B and H has good prices http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=277532&is=REG http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=303956&is=REG __________________ Scheck out the new girls at www.hawtmoney.com ICQ 177-447-671

05-30-2004, 02:41 PM	#5
Paul Waters Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4,402	I have had my Sony VX2100 for a month and I think it is excellent. I went Sony cause I was able to get a deal, and I already had one. In truth, you will be happy with any one of the cameras you mentioned. Go with the one that feels the best in your hands. __________________ Paul

05-30-2004, 03:12 PM	#6
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	the sony is built like a tank, i'd go for it, i have the vx2000

05-30-2004, 04:56 PM	#7
Danny K Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 18	I'd go with the panasonic it has 24frames per second, looks as great as film!

05-30-2004, 05:04 PM	#8
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	think of it this way though, if your doing it for a site, and that site gets big enough...why not get the best you can so you can archive all your tapes, then release a dvd of your best material later?

05-30-2004, 05:06 PM	#9
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	24 fps needs a very steady hand or a tripod, especially when using zoom

05-30-2004, 05:42 PM	#10
SureFire Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: internet Posts: 4,398	Cannon Xl 1s http://www.canondv.com/xl1s/f.html Kind of big but I like mine

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gage Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Scottsdale AZ & Colorado Posts: 225	if you want a smaller 3ccd cam i would go with the canon gl2 .. best colour that I have seen in a pro-sumer(or professional, for that matter) 3ccd cam. good luck -g

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05-31-2004, 01:23 PM	#24
J-Reel Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Boneprone's guest house Posts: 3,782	I think I'm gonna get this package right here... http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=308853&is=REG The PD170 with a Hard case for $3400 I still need to get long life battery and Wide angle lens. __________________ Scheck out the new girls at www.hawtmoney.com ICQ 177-447-671