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|  05-30-2004, 02:06 AM | #1 | 
| Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA 
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				Are you guys stupid or just plain braind dead?
			 You have opportunities to learn from, do business deals and make friends with so many bright, successful and wealthy guys here.  There are a lot of millionaires and multi-millionaires that come on here mostly for fun, but also willing to provide lots of great info, marketing techniques, ideas and years of experience you can use to build your business.  Yet you spew nothing but posts filled with bashing, hate, idiotic statements, childlike bullshit, and clearly envy and jealousy. Grow the fuck up and start acting like businessmen instead of punks. If you show some common respect for the people here that have made it already, they'll be happy to share their knowledge and insight to help you up the ladder too. 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:08 AM | #2 | 
| Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound 
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				 | listen to this man | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:08 AM | #3 | 
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				 | uh oh someone got on KRL's badside tonight. but yeah there's a ton of info available here if you just use it. 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:09 AM | #4 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 02:09 AM | #5 | 
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				 |  amen to that. half the comments i see made here belong in an AOL chatroom. I mean having fun is one thing, but having a postwar about whos fatter/poorer/richer/gets laid more/etc is getting fucking old. A wiseman once said "fighting on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even if you win, your still retarded". my  | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:10 AM | #6 | 
| Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound 
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				 | some people dont understand the buisness of making buisness..to some this is all fun and games | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:12 AM | #7 | 
| Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull 
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				 | it's almost impossible to weed through the bullshit and drama to find much if any worthwhile information here. and with the fucking search disabled 99% of the fucking time.. it's COMPLETELY impossible. | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:12 AM | #8 | 
| I help you SUCCEED Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas 
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				 | Very good points, KRL.  However, some of the apparent bashing/'drama' you see here are sometimes underhanded marketing   | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:13 AM | #9 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hawaii 
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				 | For what it's worth there are a few of us who come to this board to learn and I for one appreciate all the great help I've had to date. Long may it continue!    Lux | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:13 AM | #10 | 
| Pounding Googlebot Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada 
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				 | I think it's because a lot of people on here aren't involved in this business full-time and treat it as a hobby that makes a little extra money. It's a shame but comes with any industry if you ask me. WG 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:14 AM | #11 | |
| Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:15 AM | #12 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 02:15 AM | #13 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 02:16 AM | #14 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 02:16 AM | #15 | |
| Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:17 AM | #16 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 02:18 AM | #17 | 
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				 | I'm waiting for the mandatory, May 2004 registree to go "what the fuck do you do then?"  | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:19 AM | #18 | 
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				 | I surprisingly learn a lot here   | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:19 AM | #19 | |
| Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:19 AM | #20 | |
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 PS...GODDAMN IM WONDERFUL! | |
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|  05-30-2004, 02:20 AM | #21 | |
| I help you SUCCEED Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:21 AM | #22 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 02:27 AM | #23 | 
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				 | I agree, pointless threads can get rather dull after a while | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:29 AM | #24 | |
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 Huh hu heh ehe hehe heh he said "braind dead" Beavis. 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:32 AM | #25 | 
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				 | its time to close the signup form on GFY too many kinds posting on here lately its just a big waste of time NOT having them on ignore | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:32 AM | #26 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 02:34 AM | #27 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 02:39 AM | #28 | 
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				 | Good post! I agree that a lot of people here really don't have a fucking clue. I personally feel that if you bash someone, although maybe fun at the time, will come back to haunt you at the time that you could really need some help. Karma is a bitch! As far as the comment on the people that only make a few bucks as a hobby, well I kinda agree. But, looking at myself: I've got a job I like, and of course, given the chance I would do adult fulltime. So right now I'm just saving. Every signup, every penny I make of this, I don't spend a thing of it, besides on some content now and then. I'll wait untill I have plenty of cash, and them I'll start fulltime with a BANG! The times of getting in with nothing and getting rich in a week are over. You gotta thing of this as a business. That means: investment, a businessplan, and a proffessional way of communicating with your network. Anyway, just my  (sorry for the spelling) MarcieB | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:43 AM | #29 | 
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				 | It has always puzzled me that people would rather spend their time fighting on a message board when they could be picking up some of that cash on the table and living any lifestyle they desire. | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:45 AM | #30 | 
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				 | here here  | 
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|  05-30-2004, 02:53 AM | #31 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Pedro, Costa Rica 
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				 | Just a thought, but perhaps having access to the board cost a small monthly fee would eliminate 90% of the problem. I think closing new signups would be unfair, but perhaps only charging for those who signed up after _x_ date would be a nice idea. | 
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|  05-30-2004, 03:00 AM | #32 | 
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				 | I try as much as possible to stay out of the drama on here.  If a friend is being attacked I will jump in however. Creative and the other idiots can start as many useless threads as they want. I'll still be out there trying to make the money they are ignoring. 
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|  05-30-2004, 03:01 AM | #33 | 
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|  05-30-2004, 03:04 AM | #34 | 
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				 | Agreed !  Any chance of splitting the GFY board into more forums, a 'lounge' for general banter etc would free up the board for discussing biz issues.. | 
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|  05-30-2004, 03:05 AM | #35 | |
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 I think the way Lensman has it right now makes him a shit load of money bottom line 
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|  05-30-2004, 03:08 AM | #36 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 03:11 AM | #37 | 
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				 | I think there is a time for work and a time for play. A lot of people just come here to play. I personally do both, but I couldn't agree more with your statement. There are a few people that I reach out to, but off the board (ICQ) that are almost always ready and willing to help. It's all a matter of respect. Thanks KRL. | 
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|  05-30-2004, 03:14 AM | #38 | 
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				 | What you say is true, but sometimes the help factor here is quite low...at least on the board. Perhaps a personal dialogue in ICQ is better for getting infos and help in the biz! 
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|  05-30-2004, 03:18 AM | #39 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 03:21 AM | #40 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 03:45 AM | #41 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 04:28 AM | #42 | |
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 not everyone want's to /need's to become a Millionair or become a fulltime webmaster ! what pisses me off is the lack of respect for (some) people here people who work hard and are happy to share their knowledge with other !  | |
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|  05-30-2004, 04:37 AM | #43 | |
| Too old to care Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. 
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 I would say that the majority of the people who KTL is talking about are not really in business. I employed a guy to design and post TGPs for two months, the guy never stopped working. He definitely did not have time to post on message boards. Look at the post count of these guys. WTF do they do to earn money? | |
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|  05-30-2004, 04:37 AM | #44 | 
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				 | Excellent post KRL! It seems that the majority of the bashing that goes on happens between people who have similar business interests. Designers bashing designers comes to mind first. People don't seem to realize that when you bash someone you're not making the bashee look bad...you're making yourself look bad. Simple immaturity. And for those who don't know, KRL is one of the big dogs...if he speaks, listen. You might learn something. And don't be jealous of Marc De...learn what you can from him...he's a brilliant business man. I spend about 95% of my time here reading, learning. I only post when I feel like having a little fun. As with anything in life, have your ears open in the appropriate relation to your mouth...at least 2:1. Otherwise you're just not learning a damn thing.  | 
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|  05-30-2004, 04:38 AM | #45 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 04:41 AM | #46 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 04:44 AM | #47 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 04:45 AM | #48 | 
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				 | Already try todo that   Andre 
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|  05-30-2004, 04:48 AM | #49 | |
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|  05-30-2004, 04:49 AM | #50 | |
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 Just like Trax said, Its time to close the signup form  | |
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