All of Obama's Lies !

[spunkmaster]

by Shallow Hal
SavagePolitics.com Contributor
(ORIGINAL AUTHOR of the now famous ?Barack Obama?s LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES?)
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CHARGE 1 ? ?The March on Selma got me born.?

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama was born August 4th, 1961. The march on Selma began March 7th, 1965. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM ? Senator Obama was talking about the general movement, not specifically about Selma.

REBUTTTAL ? Senator Obama was in Selma, Alabama, before a mostly AA crowd at the Brown Chapel AME Church on March 4th, 2007. He clearly stated ?because some folks were willing to march across a bridge . . . they (his parents) got together, and Barack Obama, Jr. was born. So don?t tell me I don?t have a claim on Selma, Alabama!? Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961. The first march on Selma, Alabama occurred on March 7, 1965.

VERDICT ? SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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CHARGE 2 ? ?My father was just a simple, impoverished goat herder.?

EVIDENCE ? Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was a privileged, well educated youth, who?s tribal family owned and controlled all tribal land. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM ? He was poor to start off with, he only became an educated and successful man later in life.

REBUTTAL ? Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was privileged from the moment of his birth. Being born into the powerful tribe of the Luo, he was graced with an ?upper class? lifestyle. He later would go on to be ?Big Man? of the tribe and work as a Senior Economist in the Kenyan Government.

VERDICT ? SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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CHARGE 3 ? ?My father believed in the ?power of the people?. I believe in the ?power of the people?.?

EVIDENCE ? Senator Obama has often stated that his ?father?s attributes? are ones that he has sought in his own life. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was part of a corrupt Kenyan government in the 1960s. He believed in taking land from it?s owners and taxation up to 100%, ?if benefits? were ?commensurate to their income?. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM ? What does it matter what Senator Obama?s father believed in?

REBUTTAL? Senator Obama portrays himself as a ?new politician? with a ?new way? of getting things done. Senator Obama has stated, ?I did feel that there was something to prove . . . to my father.? Senator Obama also stated further, in his book Dreams Of My Father, ?It was into my father?s image . . . that I?d packed all the attributes I sought in myself.? His father?s ?attributes? included ?100% taxation? and repossession of land and property against the will of the rightful owner. Thus seeking the ?favor? of his father, and using his father?s ?attributes? as a model, Senator Obama therefore must maintain similar ideals and respect for ?the people?. How these ?policies? are an example of ?belief in power of the people? is obviously highly questionable.

VERDICT ? SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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CHARGE 4 - My family has strong ties to ?African freedom?.?

EVIDENCE - Raila Odinga committed genocide while attempting to overturn the 2007 Kenyan elections. Senator Obama and Raila Odinga are first cousins. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2 , SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM ? What does it matter what Senator Obama?s African relatives do in Africa?

REBUTTAL ? Senator Obama campaigned for his cousin while on a visit to said country. Senator Obama claims a distinct debt to his familial ties, painting them in a light that is downright revisionist.

VERDICT ? SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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CHARGE 5 - ?President Kennedy rescued my father from Kenyan obscurity and airlifted him to the American Dream.?

EVIDENCE ? Senator Obama?s father came in September 1960, while EISENHOWER was President. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM ? But his father did come to the U.S. so what is the big deal?

REBUTTAL ? Senator Obama misrepresents historical events. No speech by President John F. Kennedy brought Senator Obama?s father to the U.S. in 1960. John F. Kennedy was not President in 1960, Dwight D. Eisenhower was President. The Senator is attempting to subtly equate himself with J.F.K., subconsciously implying he would be a similar President. Senator Obama, you are no Jack Kennedy.

VERDICT - SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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CHARGE 6 - ?My Kenyan Grandmother has always been a Christian.?

EVIDENCE - Senator Obama?s Grandmother?s own interviews contradict this statement. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM ? What does it matter what Senator Obama?s African relatives do?

REBUTTAL ?It goes to a person?s character and willingness to evade, distort, or rewrite history. Senator Obama?s Grandmother does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews (per Islamic law). Not to mention, Christianity does not allow for a woman to be one of 14 wives to 1 man. Senator Obama?s use of his Grandmother as an example of how ?Christian? his family is, in order to counter accusations of secretly being a Muslim, sustains the idea that the Senator is deliberately distorting the truth to cover-up associations and ?fatherly attributes? that he knows are problematic to his election, should he be forthcoming about them. His decision to make statements patently false in order to propagate a more ?electable? image speaks not only to his character but to his judgment. Distortions or edits to evidence that wholly misrepresent the truth is dishonest.

VERDICT ? SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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CHARGE 7 - ?My first name (Barack) is not Arabic - it is Swahili.?

EVIDENCE ? Senator Obama?s name is Arabic in origin, not Swahili. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, Columnist Says Barack Obama ?Lied To The American People;? Asks Publisher to Withdraw Obama?s Book, NEW YORK, Aug. 10 /PRNewswire/

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter where Senator Obama?s name originates?

REBUTTAL - If the origin of his name doesn?t matter, then why publicly lie about it? There is no transliteration between the alphabets of Arabic and Swahili. The Africanized derivative of the Arabic ?Baraka? is Barack, but the origin and source is entirely Arabic. Senator Obama again distorts the facts in an attempt to distance himself from associations he deems politically inexpedient. Senator Obama?s middle name, Hussein, is also Arabic. Naturally, so is the Senator?s last name, Obama.

VERDICT ? SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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CHARGE 8 - ?I never practiced Islam.?

EVIDENCE ? Senator Obama practiced Islam daily at Meteng Primary school, where he was registered as a Muslim. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter whether Senator Obama practiced Islam as a child?

REBUTTAL ? If there is no importance to the fact that Senator Obama practiced Islam as a child, then what is the motivation for lying about it publicly? Indonesia requires students to study religion. Barry Soetoro was registered as a Muslim at the Meteng Primary School. One cannot participate in any studies within a Madrassa without practicing Islam.

VERDICT ? SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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CHARGE 9 - ?My school in Indonesia was Christian.?

EVIDENCE ? Senator Obama was registered as a Muslim at Meteng Primary School. The school offered Christian classes as well. Barry Soetoro did not attend them. He later spent 2 years in a Catholic school SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter that Senator Obama?s school was Islamic or Catholic?

REBUTTAL - Again, If there is no importance to the fact that Senator Obama practiced Islam as a child, then what is the motivation for lying about it publicly? Indonesia requires all students to study religion. Barry Soetoro was enrolled as a Muslim at the Menteng Primary School where he studied among other subjects, Islam. In 1969 Barry attended a Catholic School. This is the only schooling Senator Obama discusses, thus Meteng has been somewhat covered up. Why one would ask? The only conclusion that can be drawn from this scenario is that Senator Obama lied about this school and its subject matter for political expediency. In later comments the Senator stated he did not attend an Islamic school, but in his book ?Dreams Of My Father? he states that he ?got in trouble for making faces in Koranic studies? and was disciplined by his mother. One would ask how many Catholic students remember being taught the Koran by their nuns.

VERDICT ? SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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CHARGE 10 - ?I am fluent in Indonesian.?

EVIDENCE - Not one teacher says that Senator Obama could speak the language at the time. SOURCE 1, (Kirsten Scharnberg and Kim Barker, ?The Not-So-Simple Story Of Barack Obama?s Youth,? Chicago Tribune)

COUNTER CLAIM - What does it matter that Senator Obama can?t speak fluent Indonesian?

REBUTTAL - YET AGAIN, if it does not matter, what is the motivation for lying about it publicly? Apparently we are to infer, by Senator Obama?s supposed ?fluency? in Indonesian, that he is very sophisticated and experienced in ?foreign affairs?. Perhaps Senator Obama feels that grade school French and Spanish qualifies most U.S. students as UN diplomats.

VERDICT ? SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR

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[After Shock Media]

That's all? Well crap maybe he really isn't a good enough politician after all.

[JFK]

So what are you trying to say? How can you tell a politician is lying? He opens his mouth

[spunkmaster]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

That's all? Well crap maybe he really isn't a good enough politician after all.

No, there's 57 more here http://savagepolitics.com/?page_id=326

[fallenmuffin]

Shitty pilot, Satan in a dress and you pick on the black guy?

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by spunkmaster

No, there's 57 more here http://savagepolitics.com/?page_id=326

Again and?

Hell look at Clintons, or Mccains. Fuck while you are at it do not even start in on how much Mccain has fliped.

[Mike Honcho]

Well looks like John McCain is the......what am I saying? We should just say fuck it and re-elect Bill Clinton.

[SoloGirlsContent]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Again and?

Hell look at Clintons, or Mccains. Fuck while you are at it do not even start in on how much Mccain has fliped.

amen bro..I'll take OBAMA over Mcbush any day

[Jace]

find me one politician that doesn't lie and I will give you some cake

also, what does any of that posted above have to do with politics?

[fuhkinglou]

Our New President You Are A Liar!

[J. Falcon]

Keep your email spam to yourself.

[nico-t]

stupid subjective thread. Like everyone already said, every politician is a professional liar... damn this thread is retarded

[notoldschool]

Who really cares. Everyone on this board has lied to make themselves look better. Atleast he wants to help our people instead of follow the same tired ass policies. He is the only one who has proven change by his voting history. Stop buying into the GOP spin and investigate the truth why dont u.

[tony286]

The right wing is starting,they are afraid of him. The sad thing some will actually believe this.
Like the first one you would have to be a idiot to not understand what he meant.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Jace

find me one politician that doesn't lie and I will give you some cake

also, what does any of that posted above have to do with politics?

Thank you, people are weird. They say they want honesty but then they want to lip service. I was watching the news this morning they were basically saying Obama had been hard on the auto industry in michigan.He spoke about jobs not coming back. The pundit was saying he would have to work on the auto industry if he wants to get elected. Which was basically lie,tell the people what they want to hear. The american people really dont want truth.

[Brad]

lame. no wonder the electoral system is fucked.

What does this have to do with politics? As has been said before...show me a politician that does not lie and you'll get some cake.

Fuck, to even get to that level you need to be willing to play the game and sacrifice your morals. If you don't know that then don't even bother talking politics or voting because you are ignorant.

[EmpireAutopilot]

You are just as bad as those delusional grandmothers forwarding chain emails. I looked at the list, more horseshit from Obama haters.

If you want to hate the man post something of substance.

[carol.prime]

Who do not lie at all? All people either simple or influenced person have lied.. Let's just hope that he'll make a change for the country.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Jace

find me one politician that doesn't lie and I will give you some cake

also, what does any of that posted above have to do with politics?

As far as lies go, none of the supposed "lies" from his lil chainletter are even approaching anything bad. It's obviously just another attempt to paint Obama as a muslim.

[madm1k3]

Shit he lied about the origin of his name! thats way worse than lying about WMD's, illegal wire taps, firing district attorneys, the death toll in Iraq, how 9/11 happened, the housing crisis or shooting down a plane into a field in PA!

To all of you fuck head right wing morons out there listen up! You are the biggest threat to the adult internet business!! We are a huge player in a global economy and as Bush keeps fucking up and the US dollar keeps slipping in value we all lose! BUSH HAS LOST MORE MONEY FOR ME THAN ANY ILLEGAL TUBE SITE!

Bottom line talk about issues, keep your petty bullshit to yourself, and fix your countrys shitty economy!

[Naughty-Pages]

Originally Posted by simonsyinister

I'll take OBAMA over Mcbush any day

ditto! crap, the last thing we need is another friggin retard leading the country even further down the shithole...

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by spunkmaster

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CHARGE 5 - ?President Kennedy rescued my father from Kenyan obscurity and airlifted him to the American Dream.?

EVIDENCE ? Senator Obama?s father came in September 1960, while EISENHOWER was President. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

COUNTER CLAIM ? But his father did come to the U.S. so what is the big deal?

REBUTTAL ? Senator Obama misrepresents historical events. No speech by President John F. Kennedy brought Senator Obama?s father to the U.S. in 1960. John F. Kennedy was not President in 1960, Dwight D. Eisenhower was President. The Senator is attempting to subtly equate himself with J.F.K., subconsciously implying he would be a similar President. Senator Obama, you are no Jack Kennedy.

VERDICT - SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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Kennedy gave some great speeches in the 50's. 'Profiles in Courage' came out in the mid fifties which earned him a Pulitzer in like 1957. And he spoke nationally about the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1957.

VERDICT - GFY POSTER, YOU'VE NEVER TAKEN AN AMERICAN HISTORY CLASS
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Lame argument.

[billywatson]

My vote -- Barak Obama.

McBush and Hillary aren't The Way.

Obama!

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by billywatson

My vote -- Barak Obama.

McBush and Hillary aren't The Way.

Obama!

Are you sure:

[SirMoby]

Do you really believe that politicians are NOT liars?

[pocketkangaroo]

Omg He Has A Muslim Sounding Middle Name And He Is Darker Skinned Than Us!!!!!111111111

[dav3]

All politicians are crooked dickwads. If a legit politician somehow makes it into the loop, he is either quickly assimilated by the greed, or made into a media mockery.