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pimplink 05-27-2004 01:37 AM
Aren't there laws to prevent that kind of shit?

How about a consent form?



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Originally posted by theking
I seriously doubt that they test "experimental" drugs...but I do know that they will use new drugs without telling you that it is new to the market. Private physcians do the same thing...in that they will give you sample drugs that are new to the market...but they usually tell you that they are a new drug. VA hospitals have a bad rep...and I am satisfied that some deserve it...but I suspect the Administrator is a bad Administrator in these instances. Outside of detesting the wait time involved I do not have a complaint about any of the VA hospitals that I have gone to. My favorite one is in Palo Alto CA...the Cadilac of VA hospitals...in my opinion.

Reak 05-27-2004 01:38 AM
omg, that's crazy

KRL 05-27-2004 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by theking
I seriously doubt that they test "experimental" drugs...but I do know that they will use new drugs without telling you that it is new to the market. Private physcians do the same thing...in that they will give you sample drugs that are new to the market...but they usually tell you that they are a new drug. VA hospitals have a bad rep...and I am satisfied that some deserve it...but I suspect the Administrator is a bad Administrator in these instances. Outside of detesting the wait time involved I do not have a complaint about any of the VA hospitals that I have gone to. My favorite one is in Palo Alto CA...the Cadilac of VA hospitals...in my opinion.
This was back in the 70's King. Don't you remember all the controversy at the time with the experimental drugs the CIA was testing for mind control and the like.

I'm serious he said they would give experimental drugs to the most fucked up patients that had no close family, so in case they croaked from the tests, there'd be nobody asking any questions.

theking 05-27-2004 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by EviLGuY
This war is turning into a huge clusterfuck. Do you think its just THIS war, or are all wars like that and we only know about the fuckups these days because of the internet and what not?
It is not just this conflict...pretty much any conflict is a cluster fuck. Usually the first thing to go wrong in battle is the plan. Battle is similar to "un-organized" chaos. "Murphy's Law" is applicable.

theking 05-27-2004 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by KRL
This was back in the 70's King. Don't you remember all the controversy at the time with the experimental drugs the CIA was testing for mind control and the like.

I'm serious he said they would give experimental drugs to the most fucked up patients that had no close family, so in case they croaked from the tests, there'd be nobody asking any questions.
I am aware that the military was experimenting with LSD...maybe among other things...but this was on active duty personell...and was without their knowledge in some cases. I am not making a defintive denial that they experimented on some vets without their knowledge. Much to my regret and anger...the military has done some shitty things...which comes to the forefront from time to time...but I usually write it off because of the "greater good" theory.

I did personally know (he is dead now) a Navy man that claimed he sucessfully sued (it is virtually immpossibe to sue the military) and won a large award for some type of experiment the Navy did on him without his knowledge. He would never tell me exactly what the experiment was...but because of the nature of his health issues...I always suspected it had to do with radiation.

pimplink 05-27-2004 02:06 AM
TheKing....

One of the biggest purveyors of the "Greater Good" theory you keep babbling about is....


ADOLF HITLER



Don't ride that slippery slope, buddy. It leads to unfortunate consequences.

theking 05-27-2004 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by pimplink
TheKing....

One of the biggest purveyors of the "Greater Good" theory you keep babbling about is....


ADOLF HITLER



Don't ride that slippery slope, buddy. It leads to unfortunate consequences.
I will be the determiner of what "slope" I ride...not you...thank you very much.

Aquarius 05-27-2004 02:12 AM
Not good at all. :(

kowntafit 05-27-2004 02:58 AM
Atleast this Iraq shit keeps the newspapers happy. There is a new story every day.

theking 05-27-2004 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by kowntafit
Atleast this Iraq shit keeps the newspapers happy. There is a new story every day.
Unfortunately.

AMADude 05-27-2004 11:02 AM
50 fucked up stories

cluck 05-27-2004 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by rickholio
Wow... that's a pretty extreme parasthesia reaction. I guess it's a good thing that diphenhydramine has an effective life of only 4-6 hours and peak efficiency at around 30-60 minutes. It could have been something like desloratadine (aerius), which has an effective life of close to a day. :winkwink:

For me, benadryl (diphen) is a serious benefit. I have angioedema and benadryl is particularly effective in making swelling go away... which is very, VERY important when that swelling is in your throat or soft palate. However, if I had to deal with the heebeejeebees every time I drank some, so that for a period of a few hours while the swelling recedes and the maximum effect of benedryl overlap... yuck. I'd be looking for any sort of alternate option, and yes, it could drive me mental if I had no other option.

I hope I never have to deal with anything like that. :( :(

BTW - I do recommend aerius if you were taking benedryl as an antihistamine. Works like a hot damn for hay fever AND is effective at supressing angioedema and other uticartia.
Actually I tried it as a sleep aid in the form of unisom, but most people are more familiar with benadryl and it's basically the same thing. Now I take melatonin and it works like a charm. :thumbsup


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