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Old 05-25-2004, 11:09 PM   #51
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50 fear mongering presidents


Wow what a shock. Just in time to take pressure off Bush's "miserable failure" (google it) in Iraq and the abu chachah prison scandal. We better elect him again since he has such a tough stance on terror.

Fucking ****** bush.
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Old 05-25-2004, 11:53 PM   #54
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FBI just announced al-Qaida has 18,000 members in its organization, that they have terrorists slipped into the US already again and preparing a major US attack on the level of 9/11 within the next 90 days.

They also believe it could involve a chem, bio or a nuclear weapon.

The FBI did not announce that al Qaida has 18,000 members. That announcement was made by the International Institute of Strategic Studies (a think tank)...and is based upon estimations...which may or not be anywhere near correct.
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50 fear mongering presidents


Wow what a shock. Just in time to take pressure off Bush's "miserable failure" (google it) in Iraq and the abu chachah prison scandal. We better elect him again since he has such a tough stance on terror.

Fucking ****** bush.
When it does happen though, there should be 280 million people very pissed off he spent 80 Billion in Iraq instead of Intelligence.
But most will be too stupid to realise that, and as summed up by Warchild, want retaliation again with all the skill and planning of a boy trying to blindly swat a pinata.
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I don't think this will happen. It might just be the government playing tricks again.
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When it does happen though, there should be 280 million people very pissed off he spent 80 Billion in Iraq instead of Intelligence.
But most will be too stupid to realise that, and as summed up by Warchild, want retaliation again with all the skill and planning of a boy trying to blindly swat a pinata.
The current US population is estimated to be more than 290 million and yes they will be very pissed off...but not at the President. I suspect that another major attack on the CONUS will insure the re-election of the President. I also suspect that multiple retalitory plans have already been made for a response to another major attack on the CONUS...and I suspect that if any of them are implemented the retaliation will be a severe history changing event.
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Old 05-26-2004, 12:23 AM   #58
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According to WordNet:

terrorist

adj : characteristic of someone who employs terrorism (especially as a political weapon); "terrorist activity" n : a radical who employs terror as a political weapon


And from Webster's:

terrorism

\Ter"ror*ism\, n. [Cf. F. terrorisme.] The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode of government by terror or intimidation. --Jefferson.

So who is the terrorist, here? (And no, I'm not being redundant)
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The current US population is estimated to be more than 290 million and yes they will be very pissed off...but not at the President. I suspect that another major attack on the CONUS will insure the re-election of the President. I also suspect that multiple retalitory plans have already been made for a response to another major attack on the CONUS...and I suspect that if any of them are implemented the retaliation will be a severe history changing event.
gee whiz 1/28th out.

And no a major attack would not unseat the president, it would almost assure him victory... hence my use of the words "should" instead of "will".
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gee whiz 1/28th out.

And no a major attack would not unseat the president, it would almost assure him victory... hence my use of the words "should" instead of "will".
It was not my intention to be critical of your post.
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I don't think this will happen. It might just be the government playing tricks again.

I'm amazed nothing has happened yet, tells me they are preparing for something big, most likely on a much bigger scale than 9/11. This country is to big to prevent all types of attacks and yet nothing has happened...what does that say.

Take this for what its worth, but a friend of mine who I have no doubt about her psychic abilities has told me that she has had visions of multi-city attacks being done simultaniously. Including many casinos in Vegas being completely destroyed (taking out one casino would equal the deaths of 9/11), and nuclear plants being hit, which would cause a hell of a lot more deaths than a nuclear weapon. She claims millions will be killed and the US will never be the same as a large portion of the population end up leaving the country. Pretty scary shit, hope she's wrong.
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FBI just announced al-Qaida has 18,000 members in its organization, that they have terrorists slipped into the US already again and preparing a major US attack on the level of 9/11 within the next 90 days.

They also believe it could involve a chem, bio or a nuclear weapon.

Probably a bunch of conjured up bullshit, to take the eye away from Bushes current problems
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Who believes in FBI?... now they are scared of every message or signal they think it would be a dangerous situation for the country...

I hope nothing happens, but some adjusts should be done at FBI and CIA as well..

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FBI just announced al-Qaida has 18,000 members in its organization, that they have terrorists slipped into the US already again and preparing a major US attack on the level of 9/11 within the next 90 days.

They also believe it could involve a chem, bio or a nuclear weapon.

So you're saying they have all these details but they can't stop it?
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yep and they sure had enough intelligence on 9/11 and did squat about it, because it was an inside job to take away your freedoms

here are just a few stories from the mainstream press backing it up :


Top Pentagon officials were warned and cancelled flights on September 10th

NEWSWEEK has learned that the state of alert had been high during the past two weeks, and a particularly urgent warning may have been received the night before the attacks, causing some top Pentagon brass to cancel a trip.

Pentagon officials cancelled September 11 flying plans day before: On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns.

Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building: In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism ? it was to be a simulated accident.

NSA Intercepts On Eve of 9/11 Sent a Warning: The National Security Agency intercepted two messages on the eve of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon warning that something was going to happen the next day, but the messages were not translated until Sept. 12, senior U.S. intelligence officials said yesterday.

US Heard 'Tomorrow Is Zero Hour' on Eve of Attacks: U.S. intelligence intercepted two messages the day before the Sept. 11 attacks that indicated an event was planned the following day, but the communications were not translated until Sept. 12, government sources said on Wednesday.

A Big Warning: The National Security Agency intercepted and secretly recorded at least one conversation in Arabic before the Sept. 11 attacks in which the participants spoke about something big that was going to happen on that day, ABCNEWS has learned.

NSA didn't share key pre-Sept. 11 information, sources say: A secretive U.S. eavesdropping agency monitored telephone conversations before Sept. 11 between the suspected commander of the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks and the alleged chief hijacker, but did not share the information with other intelligence agencies, U.S. officials said Thursday.

Condoleezza Rice Warned Sept. 6 About Imminent Terror Attack: Five days before Sept. 11, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice was warned that a terrorist attack inside the United States was imminent, a former U.S. senator who headed up a blue-ribbon commission on terrorism revealed late Tuesday.

PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT - U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE - 7TH SEPTEMBER (SAYING BIN LADEN WAS ABOUT TO ATTACK): "We are also concerned about information we received in May 2001 that American citizens may be the target of a terrorist threat from extremist groups with links to Usama Bin Ladin's Al-Qaida organization."

German police confirm Iranian deportee phoned warnings: German police have confirmed an Iranian man phoned US police from his deportation cell to warn of the planned attack on the World Trade Centre.

Bin Laden's Trail - Rushdie Air Ban (banned from flying from September 3rd): THE author Salman Rushdie believes that US authorities knew of an imminent terrorist strike when they banned him from taking internal flights in Canada and the US only a week before the attacks.

Some Got Warning: Don't Go Downtown on Sept. 11: Federal investigators have received evidence that some Middle Easterners in the New York area were warned ahead of time to stay out of lower Manhattan the morning of Sept. 11, the Daily News has learned.

Police: Student spoke of attacks before Sept. 11: Authorities are tracking numerous leads that some people, including members of the Arab-American community, heard rumors of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington in the days leading up to the hijackings, law enforcement sources say.

German firm probes final World Trade Center deals: German computer experts are working round the clock to unlock the truth behind an unexplained surge in financial transactions made just before two hijacked planes crashed into New York's World Trade Center on September 11.

CIA 'met Bin Laden in July': Le Figaro today claimed that a CIA agent met Osama bin Laden in a Gulf hospital as recently as last July and received "precise information" about an imminent attack on the US. According to the French daily, the agent met Bin Laden while he was being treated at the American Hospital in Dubai for a kidney infection. The agent was subsequently recalled to Washington.

Top 9/11 suspect 'was granted US visa'
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Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, alleged mastermind behind the September 11 plot, was granted a visa to enter the US just six weeks before the terrorist attacks in Washington and New York

The Hijackers We Let Escape: The CIA tracked two suspected terrorists to a Qaeda summit in Malaysia in January 2000, then looked on as they re-entered America and began preparations for September 11. Inside what may be the worst intelligence failure of all. A NEWSWEEK exclusive.

Hijackers 'trailed by CIA before attacks': Two of the hijackers who crashed American Airlines flight 77 into the Pentagon were spotted as potential terrorists by the CIA more than 18 months before September 11, Newsweek reported yesterday. It called this "the most puzzling, and devastating,intelligence failure" in the period before attacks.

FBI Let Suspected Terrorist Get Away: A suspected bomber on President Bush's new list of "most wanted" terrorists was in the FBI's grasp eight years ago for allegedly playing a role in the first attack on the World Trade Center, but he was released and then allowed to leave the country, authorities acknowledged Thursday.

Sept 11 terror suspect 'publicly announced attacks in 1999': A witness at the trial of a September 11 terror suspect has been pressed by a judge about her memory that one of the hijackers predicted an attack on the US.


Egypt Leader Says He Warned America: Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak says he warned the United States that ``something would happen'' 12 days before the Sept. 11 terror attacks on New York and Washington.

MI6 warned US of Al-Qaeda attacks: MI6 warned the American intelligence services about a plot to hijack aircraft and crash them into buildings two years before the September 11 attacks.

September 11 attacks called avoidable: The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said yesterday that the September 11 "hijackers could have been stopped" had U.S. officials acted on intelligence information available before the terrorist attacks.

America warned two years ago over "September 11": report: Britain's foreign intelligence service MI6 warned the United States about terrorist plans to use civilian planes in "unconventional ways" two years before the September 11 strikes, according to a newspaper report.

Wiretaps May Have Foretold Terror Attacks: Suspected Al Qaeda operatives wiretapped by Italian police in the 13 months preceding Sept. 11 made apparent references to plans for major attacks involving airports, airplanes and the United States, according to transcripts obtained by The Times on Tuesday.

FBI Was Warned of Sept. 11 Hijacker (Knew phone number, address, car of Hanjour): A paid FBI informant told ABCNEWS that three years before Sept. 11, he began providing the FBI with information about a young Saudi who later flew a hijacked passenger plane into the Pentagon.

Britain warned US to expect September 11 al-Qaeda hijackings: Britain gave President Bush a categorical warning to expect multiple airline hijackings by the al-Qaeda network a month before the September 11 attacks which killed nearly 3000 people and triggered the international war against terrorism.

Bulletins warned airports in '98: The Federal Aviation Administration warned the nation's airports and airlines in late 1998 about a possible terrorist hijacking ''at a metropolitan airport in the Eastern United States'' and urged a ''high degree of vigilance'' against threats to US civil aviation from Osama bin Laden's terrorist network.

FAA SAT ON PRE-9/11 WARNING: The Federal Aviation Administration admitted yesterday it had decided not to order a security alert at the nation's airports despite being warned a week before Sept. 11 that the man now accused as the "20th hijacker" was in custody.
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Washington was 'warned of hijack risk': THE American government was warned eight years ago that the Pentagon and White House were vulnerable to attack from hijacked jets.

1999 Report Warned of Suicide Hijack: Exactly two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, a federal report warned the executive branch that Osama bin Laden's terrorists might hijack an airliner and dive bomb it into the Pentagon or other government building.

Echelon Gave Authorities Warning Of Attacks: U.S. and Israeli intelligence agencies received warning signals at least three months ago that Middle Eastern terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols of American and Israeli culture, according to a story in Germany's daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ).

CIA 'ignored warning' on al Qaeda: A former US intelligence agent has alleged that the CIA ignored detailed warnings he passed on in 1998 that a Gulf state was harbouring an al-Qaeda cell led by two known terrorists.

U.S. Identified Some Elements of Hijack Plot in Advance: Transportation Secretary Norman Y. Mineta said today that his department knew elements of the threat to aviation before last week's terrorist attacks but could not have pieced them together to avert the plot.

Argentinians Say They Heard Terror Alert Weeks Before 9/11: Leaders of Argentina's Jewish community received a warning about an impending major terrorist attack against the United States, Argentina or France just weeks before September 11, the Forward has learned.

Moroccan secret agent 'predicted New York attack': A MOROCCAN secret service agent says that for two years he successfully infiltrated al-Qaeda before breaking cover last summer to warn his bosses that the terror group was plotting ?something spectacular? in New York.

Taleban 'warned US of attack': An aide to the former Taleban foreign minister, Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil, has revealed that he was sent to warn American diplomats and the United Nations that Osama bin Laden was due to launch a huge attack on American soil.

US 'failed to heed' terror warnings: American intelligence services had been warned that Osama Bin Laden was considering attacking US targets with aircraft three years before the 11 September attacks, a congressional investigator said.

U.S. ignored terror signals, inquiry says: U.S. officials consistently underestimated credible warnings about al Qaeda terrorist threats on U.S. soil -- some involving aircraft and plots against the World Trade Center and Washington as early as 1998, a congressional inquiry into the Sept. 11 attacks revealed Wednesday.

CIA Knew About 3 Hijackers in 2000 - 9/11 Inquiry: The CIA had information about three of the Sept. 11 hijackers at least 20 months before the attacks occurred but failed to pass the information on to other agencies, a congressional investigator said on Friday.

Expert: Russia Knew in Advance, Encouraged Citizens to Cash Out Dollars: Russian press accounts and other activities by the Russian government this summer indicate that the Russian government knew in advance that something would happen to America, including a "financial attack" against the U.S.

Instant Messages To Israel Warned Of WTC Attack: Officials at instant-messaging firm Odigo confirmed today that two employees received text messages warning of an attack on the World Trade Center two hours before terrorists crashed planes into the New York landmarks.

Israeli security issued urgent warning to CIA of large-scale terror attacks: ISRAELI intelligence officials say that they warned their counterparts in the United States last month that large-scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American mainland were imminent.

Mossad warned CIA of attacks - report: Mossad officials traveled to Washington last month to warn the CIA and the FBI that a cell of up to 200 terrorists was planning a major operation, according to a report in the Sunday Telegraph here yesterday.

Report: U.S. Breaks Up Major Israeli Spy Ring; Speculation: Mossad Was Aware of Sept. 11 Preparations: Authorities in the United States have broken up a network of Israeli spies living in the US who were burrowing into the justice and defense departments, a French website specializing in intelligence matters reported Monday.
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I think the same. There was criticism in the aftermath of 9/11 that there was "no warning".
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Yeah, they have no interest in the NAVY (USS Cole) ;-)
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Yeah, they have no interest in the NAVY (USS Cole) ;-)
USS cole wasnt at a us base.

even if they did a terrorist bombing in the middle of pearl harbor I dont live on the base they aint blowing up nothing else here because nothing here is significant.
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even if they did a terrorist bombing in the middle of pearl harbor I dont live on the base they aint blowing up nothing else here because nothing here is significant.
US Navy ships are symbolic targets ... just like discos. That's significant.
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Now that I think on this, there was an equally dire warning in December of last year about similar high levels of chatter as well as published threats by al-Qaida that they were planning "huge" attacks for the the early spring of 2004. Nothing materialized then.
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i hope it wont better
but apart from people dying and stuff i fear the effects this might have on my stocks

i simply have too much money on the market and dont want to sell in the next 90 days...

911 cost me enough money
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Old 05-26-2004, 06:42 AM   #81
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Time to get some diversification into precious metals and S&P500 Jan 05 Puts....
if you find a good paper lmk
im searching myself right now
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Old 05-26-2004, 06:43 AM   #82
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i don't get it... what does Intel (INTC:Nasdaq) have to do with this?

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Old 05-26-2004, 06:53 AM   #83
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i heard in the first Iraqi conflict that Saddass had a million ground troops armed to the teeth, turned out to be more like the bad guys in "The Three Amigos" Como estas, El Guapo?

Black hood on the other head, if some guys were invading my country cause my dictator was going around attacking everyone, i'd be upset too? Trub is, I can't stand our current dictator so I'm just going to sit this one out. So. America here I come.


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Old 05-26-2004, 09:09 AM   #84
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Some people in this world really suck.

Hopefully nothing happens.
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Old 05-26-2004, 09:35 AM   #85
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I'm amazed nothing has happened yet, tells me they are preparing for something big, most likely on a much bigger scale than 9/11. This country is to big to prevent all types of attacks and yet nothing has happened...what does that say.

Take this for what its worth, but a friend of mine who I have no doubt about her psychic abilities has told me that she has had visions of multi-city attacks being done simultaniously. Including many casinos in Vegas being completely destroyed (taking out one casino would equal the deaths of 9/11), and nuclear plants being hit, which would cause a hell of a lot more deaths than a nuclear weapon. She claims millions will be killed and the US will never be the same as a large portion of the population end up leaving the country. Pretty scary shit, hope she's wrong.
that sucks as i read a factoid a while ago that showed thatout of 100 staged attacks on nuclear power plants...almost all of them were succesful, meaning there is no real way to prepare normal people to guard against military precision
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Old 05-26-2004, 09:37 AM   #86
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what do you know, it's almost election time.

we better not switch presidents in such dire circumstances

i believe you have a really good point
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