Advertising paysites on TGPS.

[Oracle Porn]

I've noticed for a while now that some shit converts and some doesn't. Its impossible to explain how that shit works, but it just does.

* Content - only exclusive/custome content works while advertising paysites on tgps. While you can advertise non-exclusive sites with other traffic, tgp traffic seen it all, and they are looking for something new and fresh.

* Price - a price is a big thing, while you might think differently, it's been proven for me that it plays a very important role. I find it very tought to convert anything that doesn't have a trial or costs a penny more than $24.95.

Discuss.

[Oracle Porn]

this board is fucking useless. biz threads drop like flys.

[NickPapageorgio]

I enjoy reading threads like this. If there were more replies that is. From a n00b perspective in the adult game, these kinds of threads are very helpful to us. Thanks to the vets for starting stuff like this...

[johndoebob]

Most stuff is really hard to convert through TGPs. 10.000:1 and you are lucky

[aaron]

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
this board is fucking useless. biz threads drop like flys.

[Jizar II]

Great post, I learned so much!

[Oracle Porn]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Most stuff is really hard to convert through TGPs. 10.000:1 and you are lucky

not even close.
be quiet and people will think that you are stupid, talk and people will know that you are stupid.

[Juicy D. Links]

oracle , conversion ratios vary from person to person

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Most stuff is really hard to convert through TGPs. 10.000:1 and you are lucky

Not true

[doober]

trials suck imho, if the sites you are promoting are good there is no reason why the surfer wont buy, nevermind the 24.95 barrier your imposing.

Some of the best sites out there have no trials and are priced between 25-30$ a month. If surfers are really juiced they will even buy at 60$ for 3 mnths....it happens all the time

[Oracle Porn]

Originally posted by juicylinks
oracle , conversion ratios vary from person to person

sure, but thats what works for ME, so it MIGHT work for other people as well.
those are pointers, im not teaching anyone anything, im giving little advices on how you can improve your ratios. If something else works for you, you are welcome to post it here.

[iDiz]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Most stuff is really hard to convert through TGPs. 10.000:1 and you are lucky

1:10 000 it's a realy shiting site...
Good new sites, have ratio
from TGP traffic ~1:400.

[PatrickKing]

Originally posted by doober
trials suck imho, if the sites you are promoting are good there is no reason why the surfer wont buy, nevermind the 24.95 barrier your imposing.

Some of the best sites out there have no trials and are priced between 25-30$ a month. If surfers are really juiced they will even buy at 60$ for 3 mnths....it happens all the time

Testify!

[pornstar2pac]

Originally posted by juicylinks
oracle , conversion ratios vary from person to person

is biz still good or has it been dropping?


just trying to see how the industry as a whole and use your site as the central point to gather my stats

[studio]

I think it's just advertising... You must spark their interest, exclusive content or non-exclusive it must just be unique...

[iDiz]

Originally posted by doober
trials suck imho, if the sites you are promoting are good there is no reason why the surfer wont buy, nevermind the 24.95 barrier your imposing.

Some of the best sites out there have no trials and are priced between 25-30$ a month. If surfers are really juiced they will even buy at 60$ for 3 mnths....it happens all the time

yes, and trials it's not the best way to
convert TGP traffic. TGP traffic looking
for FREE PORN, and % of rebills of
TGP traffic is not high...

[studio]

I have had good luck with banners like this, to get them to the site. Then it's up to the site to convert it to a sale.

[IMG][/IMG]

Denny

[johndoebob]

Originally posted by iDiz
1:10 000 it's a realy shiting site...
Good new sites, have ratio
from TGP traffic ~1:400.

Dream on,people visit TGPs are normally looking for free porn and not for joining paysites

I could post some stats for well known sponsors so you see that TGPs logicly badly convert (nothing under 1:1000).

I think I won't post anything here anymore anyway.

Here are 5 kind of people:

Lurkers who think you are all rich and stuff and think about opening their own lame ass paysites and getting rich.

Sigwhores who post business unrelated shit all day so they get sigviews and are maybe able to sell their sigs or make some cash through refs.Also they tell you that a sponsor is good when you post something bad about one even if they don't use it.They use this place as a lame chatboard for ratarded braindumps (Post a pic of your weapon,oh my boss at the college where I work just found out that I watch bad GFY at work and fired me etc.) and 99% of those people are not running their own adult related business.

Sponsors and Billers,most shave,make shitloads of money with often kinda crappy sites (Hey I pay 70$ per trial blah so promote my crap).

TGP owners who tell you TGP traffic is the best it'll actually convert as good as target SE traffic and will sell you a gallery spot for x hundret dollars per day.If they would get the conversions they wouldn't sell the spots (and I can tell you they don't),but of course they are always some lame excuses like "you need a quality gallery design and I don't have time for that " etc. etc.

And people who maybe even run their own sites,tell you how rich they are but don't know shit.

This board is crap if you are looking for serious business discussions go elsewhere,kthx bye.

[Oracle Porn]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Dream on,people visit TGPs are normally looking for free porn and not for joining paysites

I could post some stats for well known sponsors so you see that TGPs logicly badly convert (nothing under 1:1000).

I think I won't post anything here anymore anyway.

Here are 5 kind of people:

Lurkers who think you are all rich and stuff and think about opening their own lame ass paysites and getting rich.

Sigwhores who post business unrelated shit all day so they get sigviews and are maybe able to sell their sigs or make some cash through refs.Also they tell you that a sponsor is good when you post something bad about one even if they don't use it.They use this place as a lame chatboard for ratarded braindumps (Post a pic of your weapon,oh my boss at the college where I work just found out that I watch bad GFY at work and fired me etc.) and 99% of those people are not running their own adult related business.

Sponsors and Billers,most shave,make shitloads of money with often kinda crappy sites (Hey I pay 70$ per trial blah so promote my crap).

TGP owners who tell you TGP traffic is the best it'll actually convert as good as target SE traffic and will sell you a gallery spot for x hundret dollars per day.If they would get the conversions they wouldn't sell the spots (and I can tell you they don't),but of course they are always some lame excuses like "you need a quality gallery design and I don't have time for that " etc. etc.

And people who maybe even run their own sites,tell you how rich they are but don't know shit.

This board is crap if you are looking for serious business discussions go elsewhere,kthx bye.

you are a true clueless dumbstick.
i can't belive someone can actually think like you. how can you live with yourself like that? how can you be so ignorent? so dumb? so clueless? I can't understand that.

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Dream on,people visit TGPs are normally looking for free porn and not for joining paysites

I could post some stats for well known sponsors so you see that TGPs logicly badly convert (nothing under 1:1000).

I think I won't post anything here anymore anyway.

Here are 5 kind of people:

Lurkers who think you are all rich and stuff and think about opening their own lame ass paysites and getting rich.

Sigwhores who post business unrelated shit all day so they get sigviews and are maybe able to sell their sigs or make some cash through refs.Also they tell you that a sponsor is good when you post something bad about one even if they don't use it.They use this place as a lame chatboard for ratarded braindumps (Post a pic of your weapon,oh my boss at the college where I work just found out that I watch bad GFY at work and fired me etc.) and 99% of those people are not running their own adult related business.

Sponsors and Billers,most shave,make shitloads of money with often kinda crappy sites (Hey I pay 70$ per trial blah so promote my crap).

TGP owners who tell you TGP traffic is the best it'll actually convert as good as target SE traffic and will sell you a gallery spot for x hundret dollars per day.If they would get the conversions they wouldn't sell the spots (and I can tell you they don't),but of course they are always some lame excuses like "you need a quality gallery design and I don't have time for that " etc. etc.

And people who maybe even run their own sites,tell you how rich they are but don't know shit.

This board is crap if you are looking for serious business discussions go elsewhere,kthx bye.

just because you can't convert gallery traffic doesn't mean others can't. sure its not as good as SE traffic, but if you can't convert under 1:1000 with tgp traffic you'll just waste any SE traffic you get.

[Oracle Porn]

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
just because you can't convert gallery traffic doesn't mean others can't. sure its not as good as SE traffic, but if you can't convert under 1:1000 with tgp traffic you'll just waste any SE traffic you get.

another clueless idiot.

SE advertising tactics are different from tgp advertising tactics. Just because a sponsor doesn't convert with tgp traffic doesn't mean it won't convert with se traffic.

[tranza]

Originally posted by johndoebob
I think I won't post anything here anymore anyway.

This board is crap if you are looking for serious business discussions go elsewhere,kthx bye.

Good news! Goodbye dude...

[EddiePulp]

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
I've noticed for a while now that some shit converts and some doesn't. Its impossible to explain how that shit works, but it just does.

* Content - only exclusive/custome content works while advertising paysites on tgps. While you can advertise non-exclusive sites with other traffic, tgp traffic seen it all, and they are looking for something new and fresh.

* Price - a price is a big thing, while you might think differently, it's been proven for me that it plays a very important role. I find it very tought to convert anything that doesn't have a trial or costs a penny more than $24.95.

Discuss.

I have to disagree about price, I have sent many sales to single girl sites that dont have trials.ie. Little April(29.95), converting at ~ 1:300 I have found that free trials convert at a similar ratio for me too.

Content, deffinately has to be new, dunno about exclusive?(It would help tho) just not seen by every second person.

IMO - All in all, it depends what kind of traffic, if you have a general straight TGP that gets 200k a day.. and your textlink on the gallery says 'DOWNLOAD THE VIDEOS' chances are every person with a mouse will click... ratios will be over 1:1000-2000

[johndoebob]

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
you are a true clueless dumbstick.
i can't belive someone can actually think like you. how can you live with yourself like that? how can you be so ignorent? so dumb? so clueless? I can't understand that.

Just keep it REAL - REALRATIOS kid,I know you are da man.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Dream on,people visit TGPs are normally looking for free porn and not for joining paysites

I could post some stats for well known sponsors so you see that TGPs logicly badly convert (nothing under 1:1000).

I think I won't post anything here anymore anyway.

Here are 5 kind of people:

Lurkers who think you are all rich and stuff and think about opening their own lame ass paysites and getting rich.

Sigwhores who post business unrelated shit all day so they get sigviews and are maybe able to sell their sigs or make some cash through refs.Also they tell you that a sponsor is good when you post something bad about one even if they don't use it.They use this place as a lame chatboard for ratarded braindumps (Post a pic of your weapon,oh my boss at the college where I work just found out that I watch bad GFY at work and fired me etc.) and 99% of those people are not running their own adult related business.

Sponsors and Billers,most shave,make shitloads of money with often kinda crappy sites (Hey I pay 70$ per trial blah so promote my crap).

TGP owners who tell you TGP traffic is the best it'll actually convert as good as target SE traffic and will sell you a gallery spot for x hundret dollars per day.If they would get the conversions they wouldn't sell the spots (and I can tell you they don't),but of course they are always some lame excuses like "you need a quality gallery design and I don't have time for that " etc. etc.

And people who maybe even run their own sites,tell you how rich they are but don't know shit.

This board is crap if you are looking for serious business discussions go elsewhere,kthx bye.

Stop trying. You don't know shit all about TGP.

[Paparazzi]

Content is KING
If you have exclusive content they will buy, doesn't matter if it's $4.95 or $29.95. I like programs that offer full signups as surfers recurrs longer that way

[Aquarius]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Dream on,people visit TGPs are normally looking for free porn and not for joining paysites

I could post some stats for well known sponsors so you see that TGPs logicly badly convert (nothing under 1:1000).

I think I won't post anything here anymore anyway.

Here are 5 kind of people:

Lurkers who think you are all rich and stuff and think about opening their own lame ass paysites and getting rich.

Sigwhores who post business unrelated shit all day so they get sigviews and are maybe able to sell their sigs or make some cash through refs.Also they tell you that a sponsor is good when you post something bad about one even if they don't use it.They use this place as a lame chatboard for ratarded braindumps (Post a pic of your weapon,oh my boss at the college where I work just found out that I watch bad GFY at work and fired me etc.) and 99% of those people are not running their own adult related business.

Sponsors and Billers,most shave,make shitloads of money with often kinda crappy sites (Hey I pay 70$ per trial blah so promote my crap).

TGP owners who tell you TGP traffic is the best it'll actually convert as good as target SE traffic and will sell you a gallery spot for x hundret dollars per day.If they would get the conversions they wouldn't sell the spots (and I can tell you they don't),but of course they are always some lame excuses like "you need a quality gallery design and I don't have time for that " etc. etc.

And people who maybe even run their own sites,tell you how rich they are but don't know shit.

This board is crap if you are looking for serious business discussions go elsewhere,kthx bye.

You just don't have a clue

[johndoebob]

Yeah I love those replys ,how about "You just don't have a clue,because...".

Even a retarded ape could think "Hmm... maybe nobody would signup to my site if it's overpriced and I don't show some original content that you haven't seen on every other site.".

And now go to bed kids,maybe the sandman will give you a brain

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Yeah I love those replys ,how about "You just don't have a clue,because...".

Even a retarded ape could think "Hmm... maybe nobody would signup to my site if it's overpriced and I don't show some original content that you haven't seen on every other site.".

And now go to bed kids,maybe the sandman will give you a brain

I think people are calling you stupid over your TGP comments. It's painfully obvious to everyone except you, apparently.

Actually, you know what? Go on believing that you won't get a better ratio than 1:10,000 on tgp traffic. One less idiot to compete with.

[johndoebob]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
I think people are calling you stupid over your TGP comments. It's painfully obvious to everyone except you, apparently.

Actually, you know what? Go on believing that you won't get a better ratio than 1:10,000 on tgp traffic. One less idiot to compete with.

I use when I say something that is not meant very serious LayIntelligence .

But yes, 5.000:1 - 10.000:1 isn't that rare,get out of your TGP dream wonderland where the worst conversion rate is 1:500 and every paysite member stays for at least a year so you get nice recurring money every month.

I could post some stats for well known sponsors so you see that TGPs logicly badly convert (nothing under 1:1000).

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
another clueless idiot.

SE advertising tactics are different from tgp advertising tactics. Just because a sponsor doesn't convert with tgp traffic doesn't mean it won't convert with se traffic.

if you're too stupid to convert tgp traffic you'll waste SE traffic, ie your ratios will be higher than they should be. give that SE traffic to someone who knows how to convert and ratios will be much better.

sites that do well with tgp's simply kick ass on SE's.

and i'm the clueless idiot?

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by johndoebob
I use when I say something that is not meant very serious LayIntelligence .

But yes, 5.000:1 - 10.000:1 isn't that rare,get out of your TGP dream wonderland where the worst conversion rate is 1:500 and every paysite member stays for at least a year so you get nice recurring money every month.

Are you fucking serious? Holy shit you really haven't done tgp, or at least done so with any amount of success, have you??

[FiReC]

there is no money in porn, get out now!

[Axeman]

Exclusive and unique work well on TGP's as there is an abundance of them out there. How many times have people seen galleries for one paysites sites who has 10000 webmasters vs the smaller program with only 50 webmasters.

I dont think price has a ton to do with it, up to a certain level.

[Oracle Porn]

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
if you're too stupid to convert tgp traffic you'll waste SE traffic, ie your ratios will be higher than they should be. give that SE traffic to someone who knows how to convert and ratios will be much better.

sites that do well with tgp's simply kick ass on SE's.

and i'm the clueless idiot?

yes you are. im into both fields and i still think you are a clueless idiot that got no idea what you are talking about.

[montel]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Most stuff is really hard to convert through TGPs. 10.000:1 and you are lucky

what are you selling through your site? used cars?

[montel]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Dream on,people visit TGPs are normally looking for free porn and not for joining paysites

I could post some stats for well known sponsors so you see that TGPs logicly badly convert (nothing under 1:1000).

I think I won't post anything here anymore anyway.

Here are 5 kind of people:

Lurkers who think you are all rich and stuff and think about opening their own lame ass paysites and getting rich.

Sigwhores who post business unrelated shit all day so they get sigviews and are maybe able to sell their sigs or make some cash through refs.Also they tell you that a sponsor is good when you post something bad about one even if they don't use it.They use this place as a lame chatboard for ratarded braindumps (Post a pic of your weapon,oh my boss at the college where I work just found out that I watch bad GFY at work and fired me etc.) and 99% of those people are not running their own adult related business.

Sponsors and Billers,most shave,make shitloads of money with often kinda crappy sites (Hey I pay 70$ per trial blah so promote my crap).

TGP owners who tell you TGP traffic is the best it'll actually convert as good as target SE traffic and will sell you a gallery spot for x hundret dollars per day.If they would get the conversions they wouldn't sell the spots (and I can tell you they don't),but of course they are always some lame excuses like "you need a quality gallery design and I don't have time for that " etc. etc.

And people who maybe even run their own sites,tell you how rich they are but don't know shit.

This board is crap if you are looking for serious business discussions go elsewhere,kthx bye.

you admit you cant convert better than 1:10000 and then you expect us to listen to your 'industry analysis'?

[johndoebob]

Originally posted by LadyMischief

Are you fucking serious?
Yes I am.

Holy shit you really haven't done tgp,
Yeah that's why I'm talking about it right now

or at least done so with any amount of success, have you??

I'm happy about 1000:1 conversions when I get them,I'm in this business for quite a while so I know what I'm talking about.People who tell you something about 100:1 conversions on TGP gallery traffic are obviously liars.Now go and dream on about big TGP money,with conversions like mad,with people who actually came to get some free porn but like to sign up for pay sites regulary.

[montel]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Are you fucking serious?
Yes I am.

Holy shit you really haven't done tgp,
Yeah that's why I'm talking about it right now

or at least done so with any amount of success, have you??

I'm happy about 1000:1 conversions when I get them,I'm in this business for quite a while so I know what I'm talking about.People who tell you something about 100:1 conversions on TGP gallery traffic are obviously liars.Now go and dream on about big TGP money,with conversions like mad,with people who actually came to get some free porn but like to sign up for pay sites regulary.

have you thanked lensman for your new sig?

[FiReC]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Are you fucking serious?
Yes I am.

Holy shit you really haven't done tgp,
Yeah that's why I'm talking about it right now

or at least done so with any amount of success, have you??

I'm happy about 1000:1 conversions when I get them,I'm in this business for quite a while so I know what I'm talking about.People who tell you something about 100:1 conversions on TGP gallery traffic are obviously liars.Now go and dream on about big TGP money,with conversions like mad,with people who actually came to get some free porn but like to sign up for pay sites regulary.

I used to think the same way, but I was wrong. 1:100 is doable on tgp.

[johndoebob]

Originally posted by montel
you admit you cant convert better than 1:10000 and then you expect us to listen to your 'industry analysis'?

Can't you read retard?1000 not 10.000 but 10.000 is not uncommon.Read before quoting and get out of your tgp dreamworld with real ratio kids telling you something about 1:100 conversions.

[johndoebob]

Originally posted by montel
have you thanked lensman for your new sig?

Yes I changed it to thank Lensman if you wonder,maybe he read it,who knows.

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
yes you are. im into both fields and i still think you are a clueless idiot that got no idea what you are talking about.

so you mean sites that do well on tgp's don't do well on SE's?

if a site does well on tgp's i know it will do well elsewhere. if it can entice those pampered surfers to whip out their credit card, it will do well in other traffic streams.

a site that does well on SE's may not do well on tgp's. but do you know what well is? sure you can make money, but if its a cookie cutter site you're wasting your traffic. better off finding a recurring program with exclusive content and a solid members area for the SE traffic.

[dunefield]

i usually get 1:250 but then again my tgp is 'quality' *cough*

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Most stuff is really hard to convert through TGPs. 10.000:1 and you are lucky

Who's character are you ?

[Doctor Dre]

Oracle some sites convert well with normal tgp traffic . If you take a different / original approach in advertising you can convert pretty much anything . I've done 1:250 with sites that had no trial on rev share . (39.99 per month) . With VERY agressive advertising ... not annoying . AGRESSIVE . People KNEW they had to pay when they came there

[montel]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Can't you read retard?1000 not 10.000 but 10.000 is not uncommon.Read before quoting and get out of your tgp dreamworld with real ratio kids telling you something about 1:100 conversions.

the reason i know ratios is that i have run tgps since 1999. 1:10000 or 1:1000... it is still shit and you are wasting your traffic. it sounds like you are the retarded one.

[Oracle Porn]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Oracle some sites convert well with normal tgp traffic . If you take a different / original approach in advertising you can convert pretty much anything . I've done 1:250 with sites that had no trial on rev share . (39.99 per month) . With VERY agressive advertising ... not annoying . AGRESSIVE . People KNEW they had to pay when they came there

that will lower the ctr though.
you gotta combine both...you want high ctr and low ratios...gotta have a good stable middle ground.

P.S. - I decided not to answer morons anymore, no point to it but a time waste.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by johndoebob
Are you fucking serious?
Yes I am.

Holy shit you really haven't done tgp,
Yeah that's why I'm talking about it right now

or at least done so with any amount of success, have you??

I'm happy about 1000:1 conversions when I get them,I'm in this business for quite a while so I know what I'm talking about.People who tell you something about 100:1 conversions on TGP gallery traffic are obviously liars.Now go and dream on about big TGP money,with conversions like mad,with people who actually came to get some free porn but like to sign up for pay sites regulary.

Yep, you're that clueless.

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
that will lower the ctr though.
you gotta combine both...you want high ctr and low ratios...gotta have a good stable middle ground.

P.S. - I decided not to answer morons anymore, no point to it but a time waste.

good thing you don't respond to your own posts