High chargeback ratio = account terminated? - GoFuckYourself.com

sake · 05-24-2004, 11:23 PM

Has a sponsor program ever terminated your account because of a high chargeback ratio?

I will still keep sending them sales because it was gallery traffic. Redirecting those hits will result in me losing a couple of good partner passwords because I'm listed in the archives...

I was paid everything in full untill the day that my account was terminated..

I won't mention the program...

Discussss

fris · 05-24-2004, 11:24 PM

i think that would be crazy, not your fault you get charge backs.

SleazyDream · 05-24-2004, 11:24 PM

gallery traffic from where?

too easy to scam and just SAY it was gallery traffic- chargebacks don't lie

JulianSosa · 05-24-2004, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by fris
i think that would be crazy, not your fault you get charge backs.

You are serious?

StRoGE · 05-24-2004, 11:25 PM

Depends on the amount of chargebacks. If it looks like your a fraudulent webmaster then hell yeah, I'd cancel your account too.

sake · 05-24-2004, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by fris
i think that would be crazy, not your fault you get charge backs.

Their top 5 affiliate was sending the same traffic to same paysite as I was...

EviLGuY · 05-24-2004, 11:26 PM

I haven't had that problem yet.. but its all about the money. No sponsor is going to keep you around if you are costing them money. Its as simple as that,

sake · 05-24-2004, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by StRoGE
Depends on the amount of chargebacks. If it looks like your a fraudulent webmaster then hell yeah, I'd cancel your account too.

Im not a fradulent webmaster and that was mentioned in the email that it was not the reason of the account termination....

ZoiNk · 05-24-2004, 11:26 PM

And did you have access to the chargeback details. Not the specifics, but like ccbill or epoch where they list what price and how many are charging back. I wish PPS signup sponsors listed that. Would be better to know if you were about to be terminated for it.
ZoiNk

sake · 05-24-2004, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by ZoiNk
And did you have access to the chargeback details. Not the specifics, but like ccbill or epoch where they list what price and how many are charging back. I wish PPS signup sponsors listed that. Would be better to know if you were about to be terminated for it.
ZoiNk

Nope..

I was getting paid $20 for FREE TRIAL

sake · 05-24-2004, 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by EviLGuY
I haven't had that problem yet.. but its all about the money. No sponsor is going to keep you around if you are costing them money. Its as simple as that,

I know that

SykkBoy · 05-24-2004, 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by fris
i think that would be crazy, not your fault you get charge backs.

not if his chargebacks were higher than average..
at least the sponsor program paid the amount owed to date. I know a lot of programs that would have just told him to get fucked and not pay him anything.

sake · 05-25-2004, 12:43 AM

smokingdawn · 05-25-2004, 12:53 AM

Never had it happen

SykkBoy · 05-25-2004, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by sake
Nope..

I was getting paid $20 for FREE TRIAL

How were you promoting the program?
I find if you focus more on the selling point of the site (content-wise) instead of just "free free free" you don't have as many issues with chargebacks. Also, make sure you weren't promising anything in your promotions that the site didn't have or have enough of.

Sometimes (and I'm not saying this was what happened in your case) a webmaster can commit "accidental fraud" where maybe they mistype something that appears to offer something the site doesn't have or maybe doesn't really understand the terminology and it can lead to confusion (I see this a lot in the promotion of bondage/fetish sites).

baddog · 05-25-2004, 01:42 AM

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Originally posted by sake
Nope..

I was getting paid $20 for FREE TRIAL

Turn on your ICQ please

baddog · 05-25-2004, 01:43 AM

but to answer your question, yes, these days a high CB ratio will likely cause an account to be cancelled . . . they don't really have a choice

Paul Markham · 05-25-2004, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by baddog
but to answer your question, yes, these days a high CB ratio will likely cause an account to be cancelled . . . they don't really have a choice

True, if you're account is too high they have to take measures and cancelling you is one of them.

I assume they did not give you a warning and try to work with you.

BluMedia · 05-25-2004, 01:55 AM

We have never terminated anyone for high chargebacks. The only webmasters we have ever terminated are the fraudulent ones.

Mark

05-25-2004, 02:02 AM

I've been seeing a high number of chargebacks for a program I'm a large promoter of. The memberships are far from fradulent, and I can't figure out what's happening. As of this year, I've had 2 overall chargebacks out of thousands of signups at various programs. For this 1 program, I've had 6 chargebacks in the last 2 weeks. I'm beating myself up trying to figure out why, but I just can't figure it out.

BluMedia · 05-25-2004, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by shermsshack
I've been seeing a high number of chargebacks for a program I'm a large promoter of. The memberships are far from fradulent, and I can't figure out what's happening. As of this year, I've had 2 overall chargebacks out of thousands of signups at various programs. For this 1 program, I've had 6 chargebacks in the last 2 weeks. I'm beating myself up trying to figure out why, but I just can't figure it out.

From my experience one person might of signed up multiple times and then chargebacked them all, that would explain so many chargebacks in a short period. We have seen that happen.

Mark

MandyD · 05-25-2004, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by shermsshack
I've been seeing a high number of chargebacks for a program I'm a large promoter of. The memberships are far from fradulent, and I can't figure out what's happening. As of this year, I've had 2 overall chargebacks out of thousands of signups at various programs. For this 1 program, I've had 6 chargebacks in the last 2 weeks. I'm beating myself up trying to figure out why, but I just can't figure it out.

I think the problem would be the sites you are promoting then - maybe you should join and see for yourself what their members are getting...

05-24-2004, 11:23 PM	#1
sake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,646	High chargeback ratio = account terminated? Has a sponsor program ever terminated your account because of a high chargeback ratio? I will still keep sending them sales because it was gallery traffic. Redirecting those hits will result in me losing a couple of good partner passwords because I'm listed in the archives... I was paid everything in full untill the day that my account was terminated.. I won't mention the program... Discussss

05-24-2004, 11:24 PM	#2
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05-24-2004, 11:24 PM	#3
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05-24-2004, 11:25 PM	#5
StRoGE Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,713	Depends on the amount of chargebacks. If it looks like your a fraudulent webmaster then hell yeah, I'd cancel your account too. __________________ [URL=http://www.stupidcash.com/referral=sailorslut/][/URL

05-24-2004, 11:26 PM	#9
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	And did you have access to the chargeback details. Not the specifics, but like ccbill or epoch where they list what price and how many are charging back. I wish PPS signup sponsors listed that. Would be better to know if you were about to be terminated for it. ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

05-24-2004, 11:26 PM	#7
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	I haven't had that problem yet.. but its all about the money. No sponsor is going to keep you around if you are costing them money. Its as simple as that,

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05-25-2004, 01:43 AM	#17
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	but to answer your question, yes, these days a high CB ratio will likely cause an account to be cancelled . . . they don't really have a choice

05-25-2004, 01:55 AM	#19
BluMedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,973	We have never terminated anyone for high chargebacks. The only webmasters we have ever terminated are the fraudulent ones. Mark __________________ IntenseCash - If you can't convert us then you might want to look for a new job . BrokeStraightBoys.com converting 1:124 stats counted by Nats

05-25-2004, 02:02 AM	#20
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	I've been seeing a high number of chargebacks for a program I'm a large promoter of. The memberships are far from fradulent, and I can't figure out what's happening. As of this year, I've had 2 overall chargebacks out of thousands of signups at various programs. For this 1 program, I've had 6 chargebacks in the last 2 weeks. I'm beating myself up trying to figure out why, but I just can't figure it out.