Russian Revsharer fraud - GoFuckYourself.com

adonis · 05-23-2004, 03:00 AM

I noticed that someone from Russia (or Eastern Europe) signed up for our Ibill Revsharer program several times (5-6) under different names and addresses. He buys subscriptions frequently using Mastercard. I cancelled all the subscriptions I could pick. These users didn't login at all.

What's the point? How can he earn money with different names and addresses? Ibill will send checks to different countries.

Is there a way to overcome this fraud? I deleted these Revsharer ID's already.

How do I receive an email everytime a Ibill Revsharer joins my program?

Should I issue refunds? CB's might increase my Mastercard CB ratio.

twistyneck · 05-23-2004, 03:07 AM

I find it hard to believe that a Russian would be involved.

I guess I'd ask iBill what they suggest.

tolik · 05-23-2004, 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by adonis
I noticed that someone from Russia (or Eastern Europe) signed up for our Ibill Revsharer program several times (5-6) under different names and addresses.

very interesting reading.

and thread title.

but tell me - how you figure what this are same person and from russia?

beemk · 05-23-2004, 03:19 AM

call ibill, dont they have support? i would issue refunds thoug before you get the chargebacks

adonis · 05-23-2004, 04:17 AM

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Originally posted by tolik
very interesting reading.

and thread title.

but tell me - how you figure what this are same person and from russia?

I am very sure. they have similar russian names (Russian or Romanian). their revshare IDs have similar pattern. Hits from their ID's are from invalid domain names or some pages without our links...

Ibill support cannot help much. I'll contact my rep on Monday.

As I know a refund is no better than a chargeback if it's a Mastercard. Mastercard sums refunds+CBs when calculating the ratio. Am I wrong?

TzarJorge · 05-23-2004, 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by adonis
I am very sure. they have similar russian names (Russian or Romanian)

lol lol lol lol lol lol
You won the MORON OF THE YEAR PRIZE!

Romanian and Russian languages comes from different roots...

Dirty F · 05-23-2004, 04:22 AM

Cant be Russian man, those are the most honest people i know.

tolik · 05-23-2004, 04:23 AM

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Originally posted by TzarJorge
lol lol lol lol lol lol
You won the MORON OF THE YEAR PRIZE!

Romanian and Russian languages comes from different roots...

so true...

btw, russian people dont use their names as login...

TzarJorge · 05-23-2004, 04:27 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Cant be Russian man, those are the most honest people i know.

your lastname look like dutch or nepalian right?

Netmax · 05-23-2004, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adonis
I am very sure. they have similar russian names (Russian or Romanian). their revshare IDs have similar pattern. Hits from their ID's are from invalid domain names or some pages without our links...

Ibill support cannot help much. I'll contact my rep on Monday.

As I know a refund is no better than a chargeback if it's a Mastercard. Mastercard sums refunds+CBs when calculating the ratio. Am I wrong?

sorry, you are stupid guy

RicardoB · 05-23-2004, 04:48 AM

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Originally posted by beemk
call ibill, dont they have support? i would issue refunds thoug before you get the chargebacks

Ibill and support? From what planet are you?

Kirkos Makarios · 05-23-2004, 05:37 AM

Tell me the usernamesand the URLs.

I may help.

JamesK · 05-23-2004, 07:24 AM

Maybe it's a fraud group. Several people who card programs.

MarkIBill · 05-24-2004, 02:07 PM

Adonis,

There are several things that you can do to minimize or eliminate this from happening. Please contact us so we can help you with you current situation. You can contact [email protected] or myself directly. I am at [email protected] (954-255-9764 or 888-237-1764 x4602).

I would recommend you set up a link on your site to sign up new revsharers. You can then (manually add or post) the revsharers that you want to do business with. We are also working on a few enhancements to revshare that will give additional verification processes.

Mark

milambur · 05-24-2004, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adonis
I noticed that someone from Russia (or Eastern Europe) signed up for our Ibill Revsharer program several times (5-6) under different names and addresses. He buys subscriptions frequently using Mastercard. I cancelled all the subscriptions I could pick. These users didn't login at all.

What's the point? How can he earn money with different names and addresses? Ibill will send checks to different countries.

Is there a way to overcome this fraud? I deleted these Revsharer ID's already.

How do I receive an email everytime a Ibill Revsharer joins my program?

Should I issue refunds? CB's might increase my Mastercard CB ratio.

The guy is checking if you are shaving, ignore him.
edit: And it's not fraud, he ain't cheating you of any money is he?

Doctor Dre · 05-24-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck
I find it hard to believe that a Russian would be involved.

I guess I'd ask iBill what they suggest.

Was that sarcasm or are you russian ?

05-23-2004, 03:00 AM	#1
adonis Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 231	Russian Revsharer fraud I noticed that someone from Russia (or Eastern Europe) signed up for our Ibill Revsharer program several times (5-6) under different names and addresses. He buys subscriptions frequently using Mastercard. I cancelled all the subscriptions I could pick. These users didn't login at all. What's the point? How can he earn money with different names and addresses? Ibill will send checks to different countries. Is there a way to overcome this fraud? I deleted these Revsharer ID's already. How do I receive an email everytime a Ibill Revsharer joins my program? Should I issue refunds? CB's might increase my Mastercard CB ratio.

05-23-2004, 03:19 AM	#4
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05-23-2004, 07:24 AM	#13
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05-23-2004, 03:07 AM	#2
twistyneck So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hanging by the neck until dead. Posts: 4,660	I find it hard to believe that a Russian would be involved. I guess I'd ask iBill what they suggest.

05-23-2004, 04:22 AM	#7
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Cant be Russian man, those are the most honest people i know.

05-23-2004, 05:37 AM	#12
Kirkos Makarios Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 79	Tell me the usernamesand the URLs. I may help.

05-24-2004, 02:07 PM	#14
MarkIBill Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 125	Adonis, There are several things that you can do to minimize or eliminate this from happening. Please contact us so we can help you with you current situation. You can contact [email protected] or myself directly. I am at [email protected] (954-255-9764 or 888-237-1764 x4602). I would recommend you set up a link on your site to sign up new revsharers. You can then (manually add or post) the revsharers that you want to do business with. We are also working on a few enhancements to revshare that will give additional verification processes. Mark